Mini 2167: Illicit Substances Mafia (Game Over!)

[Bell]

The correct answer was already given.

[zMuffinMan]

no, it's not "if bork's town, town loses" in that scenario, it's "if bell is scum, town loses" - the rest of the game is literally just eliminating everything other than 1 town read which is really all that's required here

bell seems more likely town than other people here

as a side note, 'tis unfortunate for scum that mariaboy ended up mechanically cleared today

endgame might have been more interesting if that didn't happen since it theoretically could have been some odd composition of players with mindgames about who was removed and why etc

alas

[Bell]

Or we let Bork decide who he wants in cylo and to hammer him

Or we let Bork decide who he wants in cylo and to hammer him

If bork makes it to xylo, I like this.

this is giving me major hives

the only people who want this is either 1) scum low on my kill list or 2) town that is convinced w/o a shadow of a doubt that i am scum

Nice post if scum.

[Remilia Scarlet]

no, it's not "if bork's town, town loses" in that scenario, it's "if bell is scum, town loses" - the rest of the game is literally just eliminating everything other than 1 town read which is really all that's required here

this is that townread

[The Bulge]

I think I like notty's version of the muffin plan

[morph the cat]

no, it's not "if bork's town, town loses" in that scenario, it's "if bell is scum, town loses" - the rest of the game is literally just eliminating everything other than 1 town read which is really all that's required here

bell seems more likely town than other people here

as a side note, 'tis unfortunate for scum that mariaboy ended up mechanically cleared today

endgame might have been more interesting if that didn't happen since it theoretically could have been some odd composition of players with mindgames about who was removed and why etc

alas

If I'm not the townie who has to hammer Bork in xylo I'm good. I'm not 100% on him being scum and I don't want to be trapped in that scenario.

[Bell]

no, it's not "if bork's town, town loses" in that scenario, it's "if bell is scum, town loses" - the rest of the game is literally just eliminating everything other than 1 town read which is really all that's required here

bell seems more likely town than other people here

as a side note, 'tis unfortunate for scum that mariaboy ended up mechanically cleared today

endgame might have been more interesting if that didn't happen since it theoretically could have been some odd composition of players with mindgames about who was removed and why etc

alas

If I'm not the townie who has to hammer Bork in xylo I'm good. I'm not 100% on him being scum and I don't want to be trapped in that scenario.

What scenario?
The one in which weird mechanics got us all dead because of unforseeable circumstances?

[Bell]

I’m calm again. My facade has been replaced.

[morph the cat]

It's an insane amount of pressure on town-Bork to get this right though. Scum-Bork basically just marches through the next 2 phases knowing he'll lose.

[Bell]

I think I like notty's version of the muffin plan

If morph and muffin do not make it there I’m good with this.

So I guess I’m not good with this.

[morph the cat]

no, it's not "if bork's town, town loses" in that scenario, it's "if bell is scum, town loses" - the rest of the game is literally just eliminating everything other than 1 town read which is really all that's required here

bell seems more likely town than other people here

as a side note, 'tis unfortunate for scum that mariaboy ended up mechanically cleared today

endgame might have been more interesting if that didn't happen since it theoretically could have been some odd composition of players with mindgames about who was removed and why etc

alas

If I'm not the townie who has to hammer Bork in xylo I'm good. I'm not 100% on him being scum and I don't want to be trapped in that scenario.

What scenario?
The one in which weird mechanics got us all dead because of unforseeable circumstances?

The scenario in which Town-bork get's hammered by town-me.

[Bell]

...
I really do keep forgetting how his role works.

[Secret Tunnel]

I either want to be the bet the game on read or not in cylo pls

[Bell]

Inb4 I scum slipped again by revealing that I know his role is real.

[Remilia Scarlet]

It's an insane amount of pressure on town-Bork to get this right though.

my head is already going in circles wondering why it's being suggested

[morph the cat]

The only thing that makes me comfortable at all about this is that the player who's suggesting it is planning to be today's elim.

Bork?

[Bell]

Guys.
Go based on what town do, not what town say.

[Remilia Scarlet]

The only thing that makes me comfortable at all about this is that the player who's suggesting it is planning to be today's elim.

Bork?

I want you to explain in your own words why you think this is a good idea

[Bell]

This is play 101.
The plan is good precisely because muffin dies first.

[morph the cat]

It's an insane amount of pressure on town-Bork to get this right though.

my head is already going in circles wondering why it's being suggested

Would you feel better about town chances if you're elimed before then?

[Bell]

And then actual town bell actually goes to actual end game and actually doesn’t hammer.

[Bell]

Don’t make this into avenger loses the election part deux.

[Remilia Scarlet]

If that's what it takes to keep people from lining shit up w/o any further analysis then yes

but this still seems like a false dilemma to me

[Bell]

I feel like our chances with muffin’s plan are exactly 100%

[Secret Tunnel]

What does that mean Bork