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math does know the mafia wincon. But naw he's not scum u guys.
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:13 pm
by MathBlade
...That’s literally how King’s Commander works.
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:13 pm
by Nero Cain
but ok
norway and 2 or 3 of shelly, norway, bell are all town so like....
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:17 pm
by Titus
And if there's a doc protection, that gives town higher odds.
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:17 pm
by Nero Cain
that explains that SS night kill. Math can't kill norway b/c it takes 2 shots to do so, math can't kill in shelly/tpg b/c he needs that "BUT THEY COULD STILL BE SCUM!" paranoia
so he killed SS so he could argue this far-out thing that no one outside of Titus and a50 believes
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:18 pm
by Titus
I am not sure I believe or not. I want to really focus on it. I plan on bring done with moving tmo.
In post 4417, Titus wrote:I feel like today is a blessing to helping sort MathBlade. There's going to be no 3p execution and he'll have to give reads on the pool. If he doesn't, off with his head.
I disagree with Nero on the reads. I would lynch Pere first, then jjh927 then DDL.
mastina was wrong. It happens.
VOTE: NorwegianboyEE
Spoiler: Math Message
Dear Mathblade,
The six of us have been talking remotely about you and what to do about you. The general consensus is that we don't know if you're scum, but we have no problem executing you. The only exceptions are the one or two people who flat out scumread you.
That being said, as of now, you are not the main priority for an execution. We really need to hit scum today. Another lynch fueled partially by personal biases hitting town helps no one.
Therefore, we decided to write you a note to tell you what you can do to improve the general health of the game, increase your chance of survival and ultimately increase your influence in future games. This boils down to three things: limiting your post volume, listening more to others, and actually hunting army instead of just strictly opposing us.
The first two items go hand in hand. Responding to everything makes it much harder to respond to what needed to be responded to. For instance, shelly posted a content wall that completely missed her need to respond to the question about if she was visited. This means town shelly can't keep up with the developments or scum shelly needed cover to get her response together. There's no way to know if the response is scummy. Running most gambits is impossible at the rate the game goes. To that end, I suggest you limit yourself to thirty posts a real life day.
This limitation also hopefully helps you listen more. Even if you think we're a massive scum cabal, direct, spammy opposition doesn't help. It demotivates people from changing their minds on a lynch. Maybe someone stands up to mastina if we all weren't so exhausted from dealing/reading your posts repeating the same thing. Instead, documenting our allegedly evil ways in a post per day might get more interaction.
The last thing you need to do is show you're hunting army outside of us. We've tried to engage you on this. You have said you can't discuss your reads based on "reasons". This feels more spiteful than actually scummy. We're giving you a chance to prove that right and that you have reads. Titus found it icky that you defended chemist without a townread there. We look forward to actually discussing reads with you, in a less spammy manner. That hopefully will let us sort each other.
When you take the time to listen rather than talk, objectives and then alignment get revealed.
Good luck,
The group of 6
Spoiler: Response to the hood
So let me get this straight. You think when you have demonstratable proof that you’re wrong you decide
“Hey let’s not do a reset let’s antagonize the dude who tried to help fix that.”
Yesterday was weird. I admit that.
I was telling you to LIE or fix the setup yesterday if you’re townsiding.
None of the wincons have flipped likely for a reason. My hunch is scum know (blah).
April and myself were talking about high level plays. There was an entire discussion about it. We were trying to figure out a way to save your damn bacon.
I specifically said “Hey Mastina sucks at lying” (paraphrase)
I kept trying to nudge you in a way that was beneficial but still honest
Because if you’re truthtelling we are fucked. If one of the most mechanically smart players is acting like a fuckin idiot why? I was trying to communicate a way to get what you wanted to say without screwing your over. I brought up old style wincons. Go back and look at them. I am begging you.
So go back and tell me your mistake. Yes there is one. There HAS to be. All six of you go fucking find it if you have to. If you say there is no mistake then by gods, I am in a rock and a hard place. If I post a readwall I help scum. If I don’t then I have the people who clearly “know better than me” and who I doubt is townsiding with their silliness are going to tunnel me to no end.
April and I were trying to set up a cop check chain to help too with Plusjoy. Why do you think MY closest thing to a townblock is getting ripped to shreds here? I am getting left alive as fodder for the six of you to decide “Math isn’t working with you.”
If I do a readwall then I admitted whether I think you’re telling the truth about the setup. But working backwards you HAVE to be wrong about something or this game is literally going though the motions.
Therefore I cannot do a readwall unless you guys are mechanically wrong about something.
2 times four is greater than or equal to 8.
Work backwards. Not forwards.
If I do a readwall and say certain players are X we lose if everything you have said is correct.
Secondly where is the double kill?
You said you had info that made April scum.
From what this looks like the six of you decided you’re still kings and queens.
Despite the true royalty being (redacted).
Now I have been giving reads all game and will do so when I get to a thematic point.
With the information you were presented where is the second double kill?
Just fuckin great.
I have a doctor’s appointment today.
For fucks sake do something.
I could rip into you more than this for the April “conf” lynch but it’s 3 am I didn’t sleep well so this is what you get.
I don’t believe in kicking people when they’re down and I hope this didn’t reveal too much but fuck. Your play has been back AF the six of you.
Of the three posted I think DDL is the most likely scum here. Will catch up later.
Look....closely
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:20 pm
by Nero Cain
this game is going to be fun when we eliminate both Bell and chemist and Titus is still bending over backwards to defend her brother.
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:22 pm
by Nero Cain
In post 4545, MathBlade wrote:Of the three posted I think DDL is the most likely scum here
wait thats not PP?
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:25 pm
by Titus
In post 7721, Nero Cain wrote:this game is going to be fun when we eliminate both Bell and chemist and Titus is still bending over backwards to defend her brother.
When you say things like this, it's really demotivating Nero.