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Post Post #775 (ISO) » Mon Jun 01, 2009 6:32 am

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Jahudo wrote:He said this when he wanted to stop the conversation about win conditions and I'm wondering if you remember your theory KMD?
Yeah. I thought that Caboose was scum who was lying about his win condition. I assumed it was wrong because of the Mod's post about the situation, so I decided to shut up about it.
Jahudo wrote: A Countess/KMD lynch is my top choice now. I still like the chances of Countess being scum and I don't see a DJ-Nightfall pair happening.
Would you lynch The Countess with Nightfall and then me with Don? If we did that, and I was scum with The Countess, the town would win. I'd be willing to lynch in that order.
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Post Post #776 (ISO) » Mon Jun 01, 2009 6:44 am

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As it stands that's fine too. We would need to make sure activity doesn't drop to zero while we wait for a table rotate. We need to hear from Countess anyway, and where the heck did Mo Lest go?
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Post Post #777 (ISO) » Mon Jun 01, 2009 6:48 am

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Right here.
I think Kmd's role PM thing was nothing more than a mistake.

Today, I'd be happy to kill don and nightfall - nightfall who I've had suspicions on before, and I think it would be worth it.
Tomorrow we lynch whoever's with the Countess.
Just my plan, I'm definitely not scum, I think it's fairly likely that Jahudo and Kmd are town. So if we do that, then I think we have a fairly high chance of success.

I'd be willing to wait if you guys think it's better, but for now...

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Post Post #778 (ISO) » Mon Jun 01, 2009 6:51 am

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Mod
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Post Post #779 (ISO) » Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:09 am

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Kmd4390 wrote:
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I will possibly do so if discussion starts lagging
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Post Post #780 (ISO) » Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:58 am

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i am happy with kmd/countess lynch. mole: you are content to give kmd a pass on one of the most important points of the game?
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Post Post #781 (ISO) » Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:12 am

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Don, why are you not ok with lynching Nightfall/Countess and then Me/you. Do you think one of Jahudo/Molest is scum? If not, the town wins under this plan.
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Post Post #782 (ISO) » Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:15 am

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By the way,
molestargazer wrote:
Vote: Nightfall
I'd definitely go for this if it got enough support. Then if the game continues, we could just lynch The Countess (and yes, I'd support that even if I was paired with her).

I don't expect Jahudo and The Countess to agree with this though, so I'll continue to push Nightfall/The Countess as the next lynch I want to see.
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Post Post #783 (ISO) » Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:28 am

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Kmd4390 wrote:Don, why are you not ok with lynching Nightfall/Countess and then Me/you. Do you think one of Jahudo/Molest is scum? If not, the town wins under this plan.
i tend to think the scum team is kmd/countess. like i said, we have no idea what scum abilities may yet exist. also, according to win conditions, if nightfall is telling the truth then that leaves him as a loser. capece?
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Post Post #784 (ISO) » Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:59 am

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don_johnson wrote:
Kmd4390 wrote:Don, why are you not ok with lynching Nightfall/Countess and then Me/you. Do you think one of Jahudo/Molest is scum? If not, the town wins under this plan.
i tend to think the scum team is kmd/countess. like i said, we have no idea what scum abilities may yet exist. also, according to win conditions, if nightfall is telling the truth then that leaves him as a loser. capece?
Do you really have
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And if I was scum with The Countess, why would I be ok with lynching her with Nightfall and myself with you.

I am actually VERY confident in a Don/Nightfall scum team right now.
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Post Post #785 (ISO) » Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:46 am

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Kmd4390 wrote:
Do you really have
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win condition and not worry about his.
my statement was in direct response to your statement of town "winning". i am merely pointing out that we all don't win if the hypotheticals set forth are true.
kmd wrote:And if I was scum with The Countess, why would I be ok with lynching her with Nightfall and myself with you.
as i have said: we have no idea what scum abilities lie in wait(if any). so trusting you is not my preferred option.
kmd wrote:I am actually VERY confident in a Don/Nightfall scum team right now.
as opposed to before? i am surprised that your confidence wavered at all, given that you have been pushing the idea for quite some time.
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Post Post #786 (ISO) » Mon Jun 01, 2009 2:23 pm

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don_johnson wrote: my statement was in direct response to your statement of town "winning". i am merely pointing out that we all don't win if the hypotheticals set forth are true.
I'm playing to my own win condition. Lynching Nightfall and The Countess today and then me with you tomorrow should achieve that win condition. You claimed the same win condition, so you should be ok with this plan. We don't need Nightfall's approval if the rest of us agree.
don_johnson wrote: as i have said: we have no idea what scum abilities lie in wait(if any). so trusting you is not my preferred option.
Why do you keep bringing this up? And what power roles could possibly interfere with this plan? The only one I can think of is lynch immunity which would be a guaranteed win for scum anyway, so it isn't plausible that it could be in this game.
don_johnson wrote: as opposed to before? i am surprised that your confidence wavered at all, given that you have been pushing the idea for quite some time.
It didn't. It's just gotten stronger since.
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Post Post #787 (ISO) » Mon Jun 01, 2009 5:28 pm

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Kmd4390 wrote:
don_johnson wrote: my statement was in direct response to your statement of town "winning". i am merely pointing out that we all don't win if the hypotheticals set forth are true.
I'm playing to my own win condition. Lynching Nightfall and The Countess today and then me with you tomorrow should achieve that win condition.
Um.... please read KMD's post here please....

KMD claims, if Don is scum and KMD is lynched with him KMD still wins?

Kmd4390 wrote: We don't need Nightfall's approval if the rest of us agree.
Wasn't it my idea? O_O'


I'm getting more of a desire to lynch you now KMD.
Ref: your flip flopping win condition...
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Post Post #788 (ISO) » Tue Jun 02, 2009 8:20 am

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Nightfall wrote:KMD claims, if Don is scum and KMD is lynched with him KMD still wins?
This is true.
Nightfall wrote:Wasn't it my idea? O_O'
Was it? 0_0
Nightfall wrote:I'm getting more of a desire to lynch you now KMD.
Ref: your flip flopping win condition...
Not the first time I've screwed up in this game. :lol:
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Post Post #789 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2009 12:07 am

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I'm still happy with a Don/Nightfall then a Countess/Anyone else lynch. It's practically a sure-fire way of killing off the reamining scum, IMO.
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Post Post #790 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2009 2:07 am

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how is it "sure-fire"? if nightfall is town then its game over.
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Post Post #791 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2009 2:13 am

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I disagree.
I think that with The Count's death, there's only 1 scum left alive. If it isn't either of you two, it's not game over, and we lynch the Countess.
If there IS two scum left alive, we are IMO likely enough to hit a scum with you two to make it worth the risk.
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Post Post #792 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2009 3:19 am

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Ok, my thoughts, I havent played this game, therefore I am happy with anything you decide as its too late to convince you otherwise, even if its to lynch me, although as its the table thing I would prefer to do it now due to my only thought of this game is kmd is scum with the recent role PM thing.
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Post Post #793 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:11 am

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I completely agree with MolestingTheCountsChildren on this one.

(Maybe I should rephrase that. 0_0)
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Post Post #794 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:17 am

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mole wrote:If there IS two scum left alive, we are IMO likely enough to hit a scum with you two to make it worth the risk.
kmd wrote:I completely agree with MolestingTheCountsChildren on this one.
the risk is a possible town loss.
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Post Post #795 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:09 am

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molestargazer wrote:II think that with The Count's death, there's only 1 scum left alive. If it isn't either of you two, it's not game over, and we lynch the Countess.
Who is the either of you two in this quote? If the count was scum this quote only makes sense if you are accusing either of DJ and yourself as remaining scum.
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Post Post #796 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:12 am

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Jahudo, Don is paired with Nightfall. I assume that's who Molset was referring to.
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Post Post #797 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:19 am

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Yeah, probably. I don't understand why he would consider a The Count / Nightfall scumpair since they're both dudes.
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Post Post #798 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:16 pm

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Jahudo wrote:Yeah, probably. I don't understand why he would consider a The Count / Nightfall scumpair since they're both dudes.
Didn't notice that.

My plan still stands. If The Count is the scum, it's a female: DJ, myself, or The Countess.
We kill DJ, there's only 1 scum left with 3 town, we kill The Countess, and win.

If The Count wasn't scum, I think it's fairly likely that one of the scum is either DJ or Nightfall.
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Post Post #799 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2009 4:46 am

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mole wrote:If The Count wasn't scum, I think it's fairly likely that one of the scum is either DJ or Nightfall.
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