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Why is vezok cleared again? I believe the claim. Looks like inHim is my #1 suspect.

Cleared by innocent investigation from a confirmed cop.

imaginality wrote:Cleared by innocent investigation from a confirmed cop.

Potentially, you could have forwarded said information to scum, correct?

imaginality wrote:Cleared by innocent investigation from a confirmed cop.

Wait.

I'm cleared and you send the info to a random newbie?

I don't like it. Something is fishy, but I don't dare lynch you right now.



Tat means hoppster and inhim are scum.

I'm saying vezok is cleared (bar godfather or sanity issues) by lord_hur's innocent result on him.

As for my result, yes, jilynne1991 could be town or scum and me sending her my alignment has no bearing on that. My information doesn't clear vezok, that's separate.

I feel like the way jilynne1991 revealed the result fits with newbie-town more than newbie-scum, who might have leaned towards not telling town the extra information.

Jilynne and Imaginality are definitely town.


- scumclaim in asking why vezok was cleared again. He probably bussed Hoppster on his list, and I just don't see AVox being scum.


ToastyToast, Feysal, Hoppster. There you have it gents.

inHim wrote:vote: ToastyToast - scumclaim in asking why vezok was cleared again. He probably bussed Hoppster on his list, and I just don't see AVox being scum.

rofl, the fact that you change clarification of a statement into a scumclaim is quite a stretch. Whether or not I saw said information is completely null. Did I go after Vezok? No. I highly doubt that anyone here read the full extent of every single one of lord_hur's posts, so it should not be that much of a stretch to figure out that its an honest mistake. I suggest you remove your vote now, sire inHimshallibe. All it would take is three scum to hop on my wagon. Of course, I am much more of the opinion that you are taking this small opportunity to ensure someone who has considered you to be scum from the moment he arrived here is lynched.

Sir Hoppster
ToastyToast kr0b**
Feysal
jilynne1991 DemonHybrid* GMan
inHimshallibe*

At least 3/5 of these people are scum. tell me, which one is the scummiest? Which one has always been that "well, he could be scum, but I'd rather lynch....?"

In my opinion today's lynch should be either myself, inHim, or Hoppster. inHim's fail-vote just now makes me about 95% sure that he is scum, and as such I would even be willing to get into 1v1 mode if he so wishes.

ToastyToast wrote:In my opinion today's lynch should be either myself, inHim, or Hoppster.

o.0

Consider my vote to be on ToastyToast for this, for no gentleman would put forwards themselves to be a lynch candidate.


These interactions between ToastyToast and inHim just now feel very, very awkward, and I am leaning heavily towards a pair of ToastyToast-inHim as scumbuddies now.

Which would leave a scum-three group of {ToastyToast, inHim, Feysal/AVox}.

I shall be endeavouring to get up some pretty coloured ballot papers sometime today.

ToastyToast wrote:Sir Hoppster
ToastyToast
Feysal
jilynne1991
inHimshallibe

Why am I not on that list?

Hoppster wrote:Which would leave a scum-three group of {ToastyToast, inHim, Feysal/AVox}.

Why is Jilynne not on that list?

Both the manner in which Jilynne came forward with information and also (although to a lesser degree) the fact that she actually came forward with it at all, suggest to me quite strongly that she is not a villain.

AurorusVox wrote:

ToastyToast wrote:Sir Hoppster
ToastyToast
Feysal
jilynne1991
inHimshallibe

Why am I not on that list?

Hoppster wrote:Which would leave a scum-three group of {ToastyToast, inHim, Feysal/AVox}.

Why is Jilynne not on that list?

You know the answer here.

I can certainly understand that Mme. Jilynne looks like a true Dame from her revelation of Imaginality's identity. But I have masqueraded as a rapscallion and confirmed a friendly neighbour before, and though I agree that she may be too new to handle it in a non-transparent way, we should not preclude the possibility outright. She is not a lynch target today by any stretch of the imagination, but regardless, I had wanted to gauge SirHoppster's reasoning - he is essentially declaring that this as much as confirms her as town.

I know that I shouldn't be on Toasty's list, as I am not scum. But I want to know why HE believes so strongly that I do not belong there, especially given his vow to look at me in more depth upon a lord_hur townflip.

The answer I was alluding to is that they're both villainous cads.

Aha! I did not see the forest for the trees in your response. Well, sir, I can agree with you as far as Toasty is concerned. I am still tunnelling on Hoppster being town, however.

@AV, you are supposed to be on the list, must've copy-pasted incorrectly.

I do need to ask one thing, that's been bothering me for quite a while.

Could what I got sent by the mod be false? Like, could it have been a fake action that he was able to do?

This is the way I see it, but first:
@Hoppster:Neither scum nor town would ordinarily put themselves up as a lynch candidate, I am only doing so because I realize that I am at the bottom of most people's lists anyways. So is inHim. And we are not scumbuddies. You and inHim could be, however.

Also, if you are of the opinion that inHim and I are scumbuddies, why suspect me over him?

1)ToastyToast or inHIM: Neither of us are exactly obvtown, and solely based on percentages, at least one of use is probably scum. I know what I am, but I cannot simply say "hey guys, I'm town." In a game of mafia, its up to the other players to see who is lying and who isn't. I'm putting myself out there because I'm confident that town will make the correct decision.

inHim:

2)Jillynee or Hoppster: Hoppster is still villainous, all but disappearing as suspicion rose against lord_hur. His play has drastically changed since D1, perhaps due to shame of his role in the TS lynch, or worry that he would be lynched for it.
Jilynne is an interesting one. She pretty much has a universal town-read on her. Most of her games aren't finished, but, from what I see, she plays...differently--she's more solid on her opinions. There's still no way I see myself voting her over Hoppster, however.

3) AV or Feysal: Every scum team needs a leader, and leaders like to talk. From an organizational standpoint, 1 talkative scum+1null scum+1 lynch-bait scum is common. Let's look at their suspects...

AV, in order: Imaginality (town)-inHim(probscum)-TT-Jily-Feysal-Hoppster-Vezok
AV, why do you have such a high opinion of Hoppster? The revelation of imaginality being town actually puts Jilynne in his scum category.
Based on associations, AV-inHim-Hoppster would be the scumteam (place the most suspicious in the bottom, place an under-the-radar player on the town list, and put two mislynches down in the bottom as well.

Their reasons for killing lord_hur are quite obvious. He was a claimed cop, and that cop found all 3 of them suspicious.

Feysal (list can be considered outdated), in order: Hoppster (says he needs to change it), AV, jilynne, inHim, vezok (town), TT, imaginality(town)

@Feysal: can we get an updated version of your suspicions? Is your like of Hoppster purely based on D1?

His list looks more like town who's trying to figure out who scum is. Scum have the luxury of being able to manufacture their lists based on the information we already have
Scum team would be: Hoppster OR jilynee (his town read), inHim(his null), TT(his scummy). Of course, have only two scumspects makes this more difficulat to figure out. Because I'm pretty sure my rolePM said I was a townie, I am much more of the opinion that The first scum-team is the correct one.
The one thing that can throw a wedge into my argument is the presence of an SK, which would explain why its hard to analyze Feysal.

So, the scum-team is (from order of highest likelihood of scum): inHim, Hoppster, AV.

@Jil:no, that would be bastard

ToastyToast wrote:AV, why do you have such a high opinion of Hoppster?

I've stated this numerous times now. Asking for a deadline extension was a sure towntell, as was looking for alternative lynch candidates to lord_hur before forcing lord_hur to claim - as opposed to you, asking for two claims >_>

ToastyToast wrote:The revelation of imaginality being town actually puts Jilynne in his scum category.

Where do I say this?

ToastyToast wrote:Their reasons for killing lord_hur are quite obvious. He was a claimed cop, and that cop found all 3 of them suspicious.

Claimed cop makes a good kill for any scum. I told lord_hur to investigate me so if there'd been a doctor, I was putting myself at a huge risk if I was scum.

If imaginality is town, then jill is in your bottom 3

Huh. I could've sworn there were more players left than that.

Well. It just means InOne + Toasty are scum for sure, then. I really can't see a Feysal/Jily/Hoppster scumteam. One of them, sure. Strike Hoppster out for now, there's no way I'm lynching him today without reason.

If the Vig (or SK) claims, we'll be on 4/8 confirmed town, with 3/4 remaining being scum...unless Vezok is the vig (or SK) >_>" That'd suck.

Well. I motion for the vig (or SK) to claim. Pretty sure we can keep a confirmed town alive every day from here on out.

^^I second the motion

ToastyToast wrote:If imaginality is town, then jill is in your bottom 3

That implies that you want to get imaginality lynched to check. Why would that be, especially since it's pretty obvious he's town?

(Sorry I may just be paranoid and nitpicking. It's just something curious that I noticed.)

It may seem that I'm stronger in opinions sometimes, because the game is more straight forward. This game confuses me a bit, since some people that I always marked as town, now seem scum and vice versa. Inhimshallibe, is making me very confused.

In the beginning, I was sure he was town, but now, he's appearing a bit scummy.

AV's list has you as null, but with imaginality being 100% town, that would bring you down into the bottom 3.
His list was made b4 your claim.

Jilynne, tell me how to soothe your troubled soul. Recommendation: Be with the lynchings on Toasty.