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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 2:46 pm
by Lush Life
mac

mac

mac

y u ignor3 m3 mac

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 3:00 pm
by Katarina LeBlanc
In post 730, Kise wrote:I can be omgusy if I want to be, if it's warranted. That's first of all. Second, if you're not ready to be aggressive, how is that different from my earlier comments about not arguing?
There's a difference between arguing and being aggressive. I don't feel an aggressive tone between us right now but I can assure you there is an argument.

My vote is parked on you because I don't feel the need to unvote or move to bubba just yet. I don't like forced wagons so I'm to pick off people who can get by without achieving that much suspicion. You. You're overvaluing your contributions and you should call yourself a hypocrite for calling me out on that!

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 3:38 pm
by Yukari Yakumo


VC 1.08
SXTLHGaiden (L-10):
SXTLHGaiden
UFO (L-9):
ActionDan | Tsukasa
Varsoon (L-10):
The Chamber of Kittens
Lush Life (L-10):
pieguyn
bubbajack8 (L-10):
Lush Life
Kise (L-10):
Katarina LeBlanc
pieguyn (L-7):
Kazekirimaru | GoodCop_BadCop | Mac | Kise
Kazekirimaru (L-10):
dramonic
GoodCop_BadCop (L-9):
Jaqen Hghar | Varsoon

Not Voting:
Amaranth, YuniChikako, Messiah Complex, UFO, bubbajack8, Kagami, zMuffinMan
With 21 alive, it takes 11 votes to lynch.

Deadline: 1/18/2014 12:00 AM EDT
Counter: (expired on 2014-01-18 01:00:00)

Pieguyn is V/LA until 8th
Jaqen is V/LA until 8th

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 3:49 pm
by dramonic
In post 759, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:
In post 755, Lush Life wrote:I'm here. Briefly.
{me you innochildthingie kaze gaiden (maaaybe desp) tsukasa}
Objecitons to any of those?
~BC
In post 761, Lush Life wrote:
In post 759, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:
In post 755, Lush Life wrote:I'm here. Briefly.
{me you innochildthingie kaze gaiden (maaaybe desp) tsukasa}
Objecitons to any of those?
~BC
I don't have a read on the teriyaki or Desperado.

Add the cat, Kaga (bork's), and Muffin.
...
This is the first time I can actually say without the merit of being the mod that this is gonna end with the town getting destroyed.

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 3:51 pm
by dramonic
I dont think ive properly adapted tp the new site meta of discrediting reasoning in favor of who can bark the loudest.
In my days we took the barker out back and shot it
Im disappointed

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 4:19 pm
by bubbajack8
In post 774, Mac wrote:
bubba wrote:Summary: In 464 you say "I can't read muffin usually so he's town!" Yet later when you're making a case on pie you say "Let's not get started on townreading Kaze because pie is... unable to form a read on him?"
Yeah, that was a joke. I thought this was evident from the post.
I wasn't sure. Thank you.

Dramonic: I'd like to see some reads please. And read my spoiler on you. Thanks.

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 4:21 pm
by Kise
It was pretty much like this last year too. Nobody ever lets me in their circle jerks. :( It's kay, their hands are too small anyway!
In post 776, Katarina LeBlanc wrote:
In post 730, Kise wrote:I can be omgusy if I want to be, if it's warranted. That's first of all. Second, if you're not ready to be aggressive, how is that different from my earlier comments about not arguing?
There's a difference between arguing and being aggressive. I don't feel an aggressive tone between us right now but I can assure you there is an argument.

My vote is parked on you because I don't feel the need to unvote or move to bubba just yet. I don't like forced wagons so I'm to pick off people who can get by without achieving that much suspicion. You. You're overvaluing your contributions and you should call yourself a hypocrite for calling me out on that!
If you can trust me on one thing, it's that I
do
have suspicion cast towards me. Looking at the votecount: You, your pal UFO, Lush, GCBC, pie, maybe Tsu and maybe Yuni. So in case you were vote parking to be a hipster... :idea:

+ no I'm not a hypocrit. I'm reviewing various players and their conversations. You are singling me out and being mean to me.

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 4:26 pm
by Lush Life
In post 779, dramonic wrote:I dont think ive properly adapted tp the new site meta of discrediting reasoning in favor of who can bark the loudest.
In my days we took the barker out back and shot it
Im disappointed
Hi.

I know you've been around a bit longer, and have a right to be a little crotchety about site meta shifting to a more posts and more wordy posts.

But really: you've had your vote parked on kaze the whole game and I haven't heard a peep out of you as to why anyone else should have it there too.

So if you've got something to say about it or your take on the game overall, my head is at least listening.

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 4:27 pm
by Lush Life
In post 763, Mac wrote:Put bork on the line so I can talk about Kagami and how they are not town
I believe you had something to say to me?

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 4:30 pm
by Lush Life
UNVOTE:

I'm gonna give bubba some breathing room even if Majiffy yells at me when he wakes up.

@bubba: If you could tl;dr your reads post into top scumreads that would be rad.

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 4:40 pm
by bubbajack8
Well I did go through everybody. So I'm just going to order it from scum to town.Middle is realllly ifffy.

Town;
Jaq
Kaze
morph slot
Lush Life
Mac
pie
Gaiden
Rememberance slot
Messiah Complex
Action Dan
zmuffinman
dramonic
Katarina
UFO
Amaranth
YuniChicako
Kise
Varsoon
Tsukasa
kagami
Scum

Some of these are pretty fluid. The middle's really iffy especially with those not here, or those who haven't provided enough.

Tsukasa and Varsoon are about on the same level for me. I'd be more comfortable with a kagami lynch though.

Mac and down begins the middle where I had no clue where to place people, I did my best.

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 4:41 pm
by bubbajack8
Morph and Kaze could switch around.

Yuni and up are middles / don't know about my read. Tsukasa is borderline which is why they are replaceable with Varsoon.

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 4:54 pm
by Lush Life
In post 785, bubbajack8 wrote:Tsukasa and Varsoon are about on the same level for me. I'd be more comfortable with a kagami lynch though.
I'm waffling like shit on Kagami; I think my other heads are both scumreading her though;

I do think that there is scum in the three quick votes on morph (muffin/kagami/pie which isn't reflected in the VC since they voted for the wrong player) but I'm not sure it's her and for a while I thought it was actually least likely to be her.

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 5:00 pm
by Lush Life
~Mollie's Reads~


actually these are kind of a composite of mine and borky's altho the thoughts behind them are my own. we talked a bit and some of these I am pulling off of our spreadsheet. majiffy has access to it too he just doesn't use it so I am not sure what the full scope of his reads are. I could be wrong but I think he might have bubba as scum.

players I have hydras with and know fairly well:


mala
of chamber of kittens: I don't like that they sub into this game only to immediately say, "see ya in 2 days!" but I will probably leave them alone unless they do something horrifyingly scummy mostly cos I have hit my limit with meltdowns this weak and if I am going to make mala meltdown I would rather do it at a time when I can rub her feet so that she will like me again. this will be my first game with chamber except for marathons but we have chatted enough so that I have a sense of his personality enough to go "beep boop" when he is actually being beep boop which I hope he does cos lets face it this game needs more fun. I really hope that they are town if they were it would be awsum cos yaye! mollie will have 2 people who might be nice to her in this game. besides jaqen.

desperado
of messiah complex: you know I totally forgot about them until cabd brought them up! :eek: and that is very disturbing cos desp should have had a lot to say about the earlier drama especially since he has come up with this theory that for some weird reason people will sometimes lose their minds around me. I find it weird that he has said absolutely nothing especially since he could have either been more supportive of moi or try to smooth things over if he was townreading morph. we work well together and if we are both town between the 2 of us can pin down an entire scumteam very early and when I say early I mean d1. I am usually pretty good at reading him altho in the upick asofai I gave him a town read cos I was trying to get him to help me lynch his scummates and out of every1 I was scumreading he would be the 1 most likely to do it. biggest mistake I made cos nacho & co wound up sheeping the read (I died early) and messiah gained a lot of mileage in the game. formerfish is a darling that I do not know too well, he was pretty easy to spot as scum in marathons tho. all I know is they better do something amazing real quick or I am about to get pretty weird on them for being so lurky.
do you hear me messiah I am about to get weird on you guyz until you do something amazing!!1!


mac
: mac and I are not clicking this game and it worries me kind of. I liked his suspicion of kagami cos I understand how his brain works and I know what he looks for. I have a light town read on this slot, just wondering why we can't seem to connect. <---- it may look like I am not saying much about him but I will tell you this; out of all of my hydra partners he and I can post and you would never be able to tell us apart. we tend to think alike and so need fewer words.
lean town


players I have at least 1 game experience with:


bubbajack
: we have a light town read on him and when I say light I mean it is super duper fragile and of course majiffy is scumreading him. I thought he was pure scum in that epic mafia game mala and I hydra-ed in and then he town-flailed and then I think we lynched the doc lolololol. his thinking does not make sense to a typical ms player but if you peek though the surface you can some real potential there and some srs skill developement. the only thing that is bugging me is his townread on us. I expected him to go hot and heavy with majiffy and do a 1v1 but tbh (and I know some people might not think so but comparatively speaking) other than asking that we get replaced it is pretty mild.
so unsure mebbe town.


dramallama
: wait for it wait for it WAIT FOR IT. I think he might be town. I have no real way to quantify this read it is the closest to intuition that I come to but every time I read a post of his I just think town. he really hasn't done much this game except complain and I actually half-expected him to jump in during mine and fery's kerfuffle and scream "mollie is horrible! she is a horrible horrible person she will even accost strangers in the street with pleasantries and cheerfulness lets lynch her!". that he didn't sort of worries me and if he is scum then I will know he has this sneaky super power that makes my scumdar point in the wrong direction on him.
unsure mebbe town


kise
: now don't tell him, but I am seekritly in mafia love with kise and I was super excited when I saw him on the playerlist! unfortunately his familiarity with me is from pikman and he doesn't know that have been trying to recover from my ebil trollish ways and I bet this game has not convinced him so far even tho I actually haven't done any trolling. *sigh* it will be a love that is unrequited most likely but he is kind of in that sacred pile I have of don't you dare touch him if you even so much as look at him funny I will eat you pile. give him until d3 then turn up the heat if you are not happy with him but I am thinking you will be.
town


varsoon
: what is funny about varsoon is how incredibly confident he sounds in skype mafia and incredibly authentic when in the forum games I have played with him he gets a bit whiny when he is feeling left out. he is a player who likes to gambit I just think he needs to get some established cred and more solid skill level before he does it that way they have more potential to be successful and he will get the respect that he deserves. I am leaning a little scummy on him here, it is a light scum read but it is there.
unsure mebbe scum
.

muffinman
: anybody who is already townreading him needs to have their head examined. in monks and masons he looked so incredibly town that nacho and I bought it, hook line and sinker but lucky for us he was nked by the opposing scumteam. I guess luck is a strong word considering we lost that game to scum saki. he is up for a scummy for cunning manipulator or something cos I think he has managed to fool every1 who has ever played with him. in xeno2 I kind of felt very strong town vibes from him after I got over paranoia and here I am not feeling it. like I feel nothing. it reminds me of me when I have gotten just 1 too many scum role pms in a row and am fatigued. <--- that is how he is acting.
unsure could get weird on him any second. he might be scum.


gaiden
: gaiden was weirdly easy to read in marathons. like there was a game I should have been all Image ack! ack! ack! he is a mafia flavour cop traitor something! and I didn't cos I trusted those good townie vibes which I could not explain in a million years.
I am leaning town mebbe but I want him to be a stronger presence in the game.



people I have heard about from other people but have never played with
:

kagami
: I don't even remember who turned me onto kagami but I have liked what I have seen in other games I have read/observed. she made 1 post that I liked but I am pretty sure I had to agree to give up a kidney in order to get it. borky swings wildly on that slot, not sure what majiffy thinks but I am kind of leaning possible scummy.
possible scum.


kazekirimaru
: now he is interesting. I played a game with him in marathons I think but what turned me onto to him was etl. we were thinking of adopting him. so I was kind of excited to see we were going to play a game together! so far he looks pretty town, borky has him as town and I think majiffy might too. he is also a player I can get super duper weird about later in the game but for now I think we say town. he is probably the only player we all really strongly sort of kind of agree on.
lean town.


the rest of you I am sorry but you have not made that much of an impression yet I do better with players I am familiar with. I hope we will have time to get to know each other! sorry things got off to a bad start.

also jaqen is IC so that goes without saying but I think he has really good instincts and some people might want to think about working with him.

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 5:13 pm
by Kazekirimaru
In post 745, GoodCop_BadCop wrote: The last time I let one of ffery's reads of this strength go awry it was when my scumteam got orcinus shot by the vig. Not indulging yet.

~BC
You can vote me if it'll make you feel better, but I very much doubt it'll go anyplace. Plus your vote would be better placed upon scum, no?
In post 747, YuniChikako wrote:Prod dodge failed, activate prod response. Dang, I didn't know this started. I'll do something in an hour or two.
I dislike you already!
In post 748, The Chamber of Kittens wrote:We wont be caught up for a day or 2. Who's scum?
Who are you again? toolenduso has that same avatar. That's going to confuse me.

---
omg hai @

Not sure how to respond to this post. But the post in general annoys me. It looks like a really good way to increase the in-game noise as well as try to look super productive. Both of these things are scummy. Perhaps I'm confbiasing now? Eh. Basically I disagree on Mac being hypocritical in some way and I dislike how you're not really taking a stance on the Rem slot.

---
In post 755, Lush Life wrote: The rest of the wagons are shit and feel like distractions from my Bubba case that a number of people are supporting and/or at least scumreading Bubba, and yet no one seems willing to park a vote there.

Aka there's verbal support but no one will pony up because they're probably mostly scumbuddies.
But scum-pieguy is a thing. I like it. I want to see that through.
In post 769, YuniChikako wrote:
In post 530, Mac wrote:
The severe lack of nothing in Kagami's ISO is alarming.
This is a poor reason to vote someone.
What, did you take this literally?
In post 773, bubbajack8 wrote:
Mod: If you don't do something about him I swear to god I'm going to get replaced. He's making fun of me, my friends, and my family members that were affected by this, and I've had enough.
Increase the peace in here. Too many fights about not-mafia in this game. Ugh.
In post 778, dramonic wrote: This is the first time I can actually say without the merit of being the mod that this is gonna end with the town getting destroyed.
Are you scum?

I keep thinking you might be.
In post 784, Lush Life wrote:UNVOTE:

I'm gonna give bubba some breathing room even if Majiffy yells at me when he wakes up.

@bubba: If you could tl;dr your reads post into top scumreads that would be rad.
Yay hydra dissonance. >.>
In post 785, bubbajack8 wrote:
Tsukasa and Varsoon are about on the same level for me. I'd be more comfortable with a kagami lynch though.
What's wrong with Varsoon?

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 5:16 pm
by GoodCop_BadCop
In post 769, YuniChikako wrote:No, I'm liking Kagami.
Why do you think Kagami is town?

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 5:16 pm
by GoodCop_BadCop
~GC

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 5:29 pm
by Lush Life
hi kaze!


i am going to do my favourite thing which to ask you to dance. while we are leaning town on you I want to either firm it up or break it down early cos there was this teeny thing that you are doing which is bothering me a bit and that is that you kind of are feeding the flames but then bitching about the ensuing drama.

I kind of get the feeling you are pretty in your face antagonistic so what I would like to discern is whether or not this is a playstyle or alignment thing.

could you plz help me sort this out?

love,

mollie

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 5:32 pm
by Kazekirimaru
In post 792, Lush Life wrote:
hi kaze!


i am going to do my favourite thing which to ask you to dance. while we are leaning town on you I want to either firm it up or break it down early cos there was this teeny thing that you are doing which is bothering me a bit and that is that you kind of are feeding the flames but then bitching about the ensuing drama.

I kind of get the feeling you are pretty in your face antagonistic so what I would like to discern is whether or not this is a playstyle or alignment thing.

could you plz help me sort this out?

love,

mollie
Hai there! I do love to dance.

Feeding the flames of the drama, am I? I must disagree, but I'll hear your reasons for thinking so. If they're legitimate I'll cut it out, mkay?

I am a bit antagonistic, I suppose. I used to be really bad about this but I like to think I've scaled it back a bit.

Anything else?

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 5:35 pm
by bubbajack8
In post 787, Lush Life wrote:
In post 785, bubbajack8 wrote:Tsukasa and Varsoon are about on the same level for me. I'd be more comfortable with a kagami lynch though.
I'm waffling like shit on Kagami; I think my other heads are both scumreading her though;

I do think that there is scum in the three quick votes on morph (muffin/kagami/pie which isn't reflected in the VC since they voted for the wrong player) but I'm not sure it's her and for a while I thought it was actually least likely to be her.
I have pie as a pretty high null / town read.

Muffin's in the middle, so I could definately agree with you on this one.
In post 788, Lush Life wrote:
bubbajack
: we have a light town read on him and when I say light I mean it is super duper fragile and of course majiffy is scumreading him. I thought he was pure scum in that epic mafia game mala and I hydra-ed in and then he town-flailed and then I think we lynched the doc lolololol. his thinking does not make sense to a typical ms player but if you peek though the surface you can some real potential there and some srs skill developement. the only thing that is bugging me is his townread on us. I expected him to go hot and heavy with majiffy and do a 1v1 but tbh (and I know some people might not think so but comparatively speaking) other than asking that we get replaced it is pretty mild.
so unsure mebbe town.
Yeah I think it was fuzzy who was the doc. God that game.

The reason I have a town read on Majiffy is slightly because he is attacking me. Last time he did he was town. He also posted a picture he posted as town, last game. I mean it's all easily faked, but it's screams Majiffy town, then again i don't know what Majiffy scum would look like......

I'm pretty much done with replying to Majiffy. At this point we're going in circles and I'm getting aggravated.
In post 789, Kazekirimaru wrote: Not sure how to respond to this post. But the post in general annoys me. It looks like a really good way to increase the in-game noise as well as try to look super productive. Both of these things are scummy. Perhaps I'm confbiasing now? Eh. Basically I disagree on Mac being hypocritical in some way and I dislike how you're not really taking a stance on the Rem slot.
I resolved with Mac, and
I've somewhat taken a stance on Rem.
In post 789, Kazekirimaru wrote:
In post 773, bubbajack8 wrote:
Mod: If you don't do something about him I swear to god I'm going to get replaced. He's making fun of me, my friends, and my family members that were affected by this, and I've had enough.
Increase the peace in here. Too many fights about not-mafia in this game. Ugh.


Apologies.
In post 789, Kazekirimaru wrote:
In post 778, dramonic wrote: This is the first time I can actually say without the merit of being the mod that this is gonna end with the town getting destroyed.
Are you scum?

I keep thinking you might be.
Why.

Also why is pie scum?
In post 789, Kazekirimaru wrote:
In post 785, bubbajack8 wrote:
Tsukasa and Varsoon are about on the same level for me. I'd be more comfortable with a kagami lynch though.
What's wrong with Varsoon?
As in what's wrong with his lynch or how is he scummy?

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 5:41 pm
by Kazekirimaru
In post 794, bubbajack8 wrote: I have pie as a pretty high null / town read.
I wish you didn't, though.
In post 794, bubbajack8 wrote: The reason I have a town read on Majiffy is slightly because he is attacking me. Last time he did he was town. He also posted a picture he posted as town, last game. I mean it's all easily faked, but it's screams Majiffy town, then again i don't know what Majiffy scum would look like......

I'm pretty much done with replying to Majiffy. At this point we're going in circles and I'm getting aggravated.
You're reading Jiffy as town because he's attacking you and as town he attacks you...

...?
In post 794, bubbajack8 wrote: I resolved with Mac, and
I've somewhat taken a stance on Rem.
That stance on Rem being?
In post 794, bubbajack8 wrote:
Why.

Also why is pie scum?
I'm talking to that one, kay? ^^

But pie? I've stated my case on them.
In post 794, bubbajack8 wrote: As in what's wrong with his lynch or how is he scummy?
Why is Varsoon scummy?

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 5:52 pm
by pirate mollie
In post 793, Kazekirimaru wrote:Hai there! I do love to dance.

Feeding the flames of the drama, am I? I must disagree, but I'll hear your reasons for thinking so. If they're legitimate I'll cut it out, mkay?

I am a bit antagonistic, I suppose. I used to be really bad about this but I like to think I've scaled it back a bit.

Anything else?
lets start here:
In post 789, Kazekirimaru wrote:
In post 784, Lush Life wrote:UNVOTE:

I'm gonna give bubba some breathing room even if Majiffy yells at me when he wakes up.

@bubba: If you could tl;dr your reads post into top scumreads that would be rad.
Yay hydra dissonance. >.>
what was the purpose of this comment? what was your intention when you made it and the outcome that you were expecting?

also what music do you like? it might help if we are dancing to the same beat.

Image

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 5:54 pm
by Lush Life
In post 796, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 793, Kazekirimaru wrote:Hai there! I do love to dance.

Feeding the flames of the drama, am I? I must disagree, but I'll hear your reasons for thinking so. If they're legitimate I'll cut it out, mkay?

I am a bit antagonistic, I suppose. I used to be really bad about this but I like to think I've scaled it back a bit.

Anything else?
lets start here:
In post 789, Kazekirimaru wrote:
In post 784, Lush Life wrote:UNVOTE:

I'm gonna give bubba some breathing room even if Majiffy yells at me when he wakes up.

@bubba: If you could tl;dr your reads post into top scumreads that would be rad.
Yay hydra dissonance. >.>
what was the purpose of this comment? what was your intention when you made it and the outcome that you were expecting?

also what music do you like? it might help if we are dancing to the same beat.

Image

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 5:56 pm
by Lush Life
also holy shit action dan is playing this game

oh action daaaaaaan

I will get to you later

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 6:05 pm
by Kazekirimaru
In post 796, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 793, Kazekirimaru wrote:Hai there! I do love to dance.

Feeding the flames of the drama, am I? I must disagree, but I'll hear your reasons for thinking so. If they're legitimate I'll cut it out, mkay?

I am a bit antagonistic, I suppose. I used to be really bad about this but I like to think I've scaled it back a bit.

Anything else?
lets start here:
In post 789, Kazekirimaru wrote:
In post 784, Lush Life wrote:UNVOTE:

I'm gonna give bubba some breathing room even if Majiffy yells at me when he wakes up.

@bubba: If you could tl;dr your reads post into top scumreads that would be rad.
Yay hydra dissonance. >.>
what was the purpose of this comment? what was your intention when you made it and the outcome that you were expecting?

also what music do you like? it might help if we are dancing to the same beat.

Image
Stating I dislike hydra dissonance? I was...stating I dislike hydra dissonance. I was hoping the aforementioned hydra would notice the comment and come to the conclusion that I dislike hydra dissonance. Did it work?

I enjoy almost all music to some capacity! Though I am especially fond of variants of jazz music, as well as symphonies. Sometimes I indulge in instrumental progressive. If you're looking to dance, I enjoy the Viennese Waltz :3