Mini 1598: Mafia with a Twist 1 - The OK Corral (Over!)

[Save The Dragons]

Thoughts on remaining players and massclaim y/n?

[leviathan93]

well, i don't like the fact that two people shot zzzx. its totally possible to happen, but the fact that they would still be alive just weirds me out for some reason. either one may be scum.

i would see that wolfy seems suspicious, but the fact that he shot nati a mafia makes me think hes town.

I think we can all agree that there is probably only one of us left as scum.

and unless we all agree on a mass claim i'd rather not.

[ika]

well im always for a mass claim i wanted it day 1 but if i am thinking about it right its not going to yeild much...

[leviathan93]

duhh. =P we're all gonna say we are town. =P

[Save The Dragons]

i would see that wolfy seems suspicious, but the fact that he shot nati a mafia makes me think hes town.

Seriously? I can think of 3 reasons why this is terrible logic and I've already presented one of them.

[Save The Dragons]

Of course everyone's going to claim town.

But we went from 7 to lynch to 3 to lynch overnight. I'm not exactly sure how to proceed because A) I've been pisspoor so far with my reads B) rusty and C) voting for anyone right away could be dangerous. Our power rolls don't need to be super hidden for days anymore, so I'd personally like to hear from everyone and get everyone's cards out on the table.

[leviathan93]

how did we still have 3 to lynch?

there are still going to be killed during then night.

theres 4 town left and 1 scum.

if we mislynch there are going to be 2 town and 1 scum left.

but fine. I'll claim.

i'm a paranoid doctor. I switch off either killing or protecting someone during the night. first night I got two kills because of the random "everyone town gets a kill". if I live to this night than I get to protect someone.

[leviathan93]

for my second kill I killed sleepy krew.

[Wolfy]

I am a Townie - I guess that's VT as my only power is my vote.
I think we may as well mass claim now that leviathan has.
I expect only one more scum but if we get more PR claims then it's possible there are two.

[Klazam]

Levi, why the fuck kill sk? He was bleeding town...


Im vt. I was thinking that this was a mountainous game. Guess not.

[Klazam]

I strongly dislike village idiots. So hard for me to discern between scumminess /stupidity.

Std whats your claim here?

[Thesp]

Official Vote Count

Not Voting

(5): Klazam, Save The Dragons, Wolfy, ika, leviathan93

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2014-08-31 08:00:00)

[ika]

well i already calimed in day 1, but im VT as well, i was also somewhat expecting moutnous with everyone getting abilited each night...

[Save The Dragons]

I am a vanilla townie.

I thought this was a mountainous game. Everyone who is a vanilla townie would have one more piece of information (that they themselves were also a townie) but the scum don't have this, thus they could believe there were power roles.

I believe that scum might have wanted to claim a power role.

Levi's claim is unverifiable.

theres 4 town left and 1 scum.

There's also only one way to know this for certain.

Very suspicious of Levi right now.

[Save The Dragons]

Aegor, Townie, killed Night 1	(Mafia Kill)
Konowa, Townie, killed Night 1	Leviathan
MadCitrus, Townie, killed Night 1	Save the Dragons
Riddleton, Mafia, killed Night 1	(Aegor)
Natirasha, Mafia, killed Night 1	Wolfy, (Sleepy Krew)
SleepyKrew, Townie, killed Night 1	Leviathan
ZZZX, Townie, killed Night 1	Ika, Klazam

Leaves ZZZX, MadCitrus, and Konowa's kills unaccounted for (the parenthesis are my guesses).

Although it's also possible that they were hunting for PRs and went after Sleepy Krew or someone else. Hmm.

[leviathan93]

Levi, why the fuck kill sk? He was bleeding town...


Im vt. I was thinking that this was a mountainous game. Guess not.

because I wanted to be sure. i don't like people fooling me and at least not being a little bit aware of it.

I shot two town last night. but at least other people got scum.

[leviathan93]

I am a vanilla townie.

I thought this was a mountainous game. Everyone who is a vanilla townie would have one more piece of information (that they themselves were also a townie) but the scum don't have this, thus they could believe there were power roles.

I believe that scum might have wanted to claim a power role.

Levi's claim is unverifiable.

theres 4 town left and 1 scum.

There's also only one way to know this for certain.

Very suspicious of Levi right now.

how is there no way to know this for certain? =P

I'm pretty sure we DO know that.

there were 13 of us. 2 scum are dead. there are usually 3 scum in a game of 13 to keep things balanced, plus with me being able to kill AND heal it gives a helpful chance to scum if I choose wrong which I did twice night 1.

[leviathan93]

also if you are so unsure. vote someone and if two people jump on the wagon immediately then you know for sure. because we would lose.

[leviathan93]

duhh my claim is unverifiable. i killed two people and everyone else is dead. =P all of your guys' claims of who you shot is unverifiable as well. should I be suspicious of y'all too? Of course I am.

I would also like to note that there probably may have been even MORE double shootings of people shooting the same person.

[Save The Dragons]

how is there no way to know this for certain? =P

I'm pretty sure we DO know that.

there were 13 of us. 2 scum are dead. there are usually 3 scum in a game of 13 to keep things balanced, plus with me being able to kill AND heal it gives a helpful chance to scum if I choose wrong which I did twice night 1.

3 scum:
In a game of 13 players, we lynch 1, there's 12. If that's a scum, that's 10 shots getting fired, the game could end N1 just because all the scum got shot. If that's a town (as it was), still 9 shots getting fired.

The chances that the scum get wiped seems plausible. Thus, 4 scum might balance the game, since few were likely to survive night one, especially since the shots were compulsory. But 4/13 does seem a little high. I don't think 4 scum would be my immediate conclusion but there's no reason to rule it out 100% (unless you already know how many scum there are).

It seems odd to have just one power role, but it would not be impossible, nor would it be impossible for scum to claim VT.

Hence the hesitation, otherwise I'd be voting you right now.

duhh my claim is unverifiable. i killed two people and everyone else is dead. =P all of your guys' claims of who you shot is unverifiable as well. should I be suspicious of y'all too? Of course I am.

You're the only one who claimed paranoid doctor. The PR is the claim that's unverifiable. Clearly the shots are unverifiable (but you were willing to call Wolfy town for his claim that he shot Nati, so...).

[Save The Dragons]

Also this is bugging me:

Paranoid Doctor

Paranoid Doctor: This doctor not only protects his patient but he also roleblocks him. See also: Jailkeeper.

Was your kill compulsory?

[Klazam]

The role name and the fact that theres no other claimed pre is bugging me about leviathan too. i just find the vig/doc role odd to call a paranoid doctor.

Although, why would scum want to claim the Skrew kill is odd too

[ika]

so i got an idea...

VOTE: no lynch

maybe there will be anohter twist thing. i feel like we arent getting anywhere

[Save The Dragons]

I'd rather gamble with lynching leviathan than no lynch personally.

[Klazam]

no lynch is a bad idea here.

Vote: Levithan

after thought this is where iw ant to be too.