yeah, that's likely the method I'll use next time. It was less ideal in that it involved a TON of "well X would NEVER choose to be scum" arguments, which the tokens did somewhat avoid (though the argument against swaps was strongest when focusing on how swapping reintroduced that factor back in). But I also felt like fewer people got really discouraged (other than the Screaming Death Clan who drew 3/4 scum).
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:19 am
by pirate mollie
I feel like team!mafia was very all consuming. but I don't regret it.
mebbe some of us just need a break.
in other news metal played incredibly well, good grief it was so hard to get him lynched but that was the lynch that mattered cos if he wld have made it to lylo he wld have won, more than likely.
I had a discussion with quadzypants on how town/sided and scum/sided nightless is and we had differing opinions. in the nightless games that I have played/spectated scum won more of them. he pointed out that town win more nightless games on ms and it gives food for thought.
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:28 am
by Tammy
I guess it could depend on the town, but it just seems incredibly difficult for scum to win a nightless game. And not necessarily because there's no way to get rid of the strong town players, but also because the lack of a night phase doesn't give you a refresher period and can increase fatigue. It can do that for town to I guess, but no break is just difficult when you have to try to fool people nonstop without a break.
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:47 am
by Rhinox
Congrats winners! No qualms about the outcome.
The strongest, best, most skilled players don't always win in... pretty much any competition you can think of, you know?
I had a lot of fun with my game, even when it kinda really started going off the rails lol. I'm just glad I was out of the game by then!
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:02 am
by Faraday
↑Aneninen wrote:our years before, Spain won. Were they the best team?
(they totally were btw)
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:10 am
by Wisdom
↑pirate mollie wrote:tboner was pretty town until he got apathetic and then was pretty town. AND WAS TOWN.
thats not what you were saying
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:33 am
by mastin2
↑Nachomamma8 wrote:psyche
people were going to complain regardless of who actually ended up winning
Well yes, some people would have, but I think that if it had been Cockettes it'd have been a much smaller number of people.
↑Nachomamma8 wrote:psyche
people were going to complain regardless of who actually ended up winning
Well yes, some people would have, but I think that if it had been Cockettes it'd have been a much smaller number of people.
I'm glad that that's your biggest take-away from all this Mastin.
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 1:53 pm
by Metal Sonic
↑zoraster wrote:I don't think I'll do game/side selection in the same manner next time. What it improved in achieving certain design goals, it made worse by increasing how complicated it was.
Anyway, to those saying they'll play (or not play) next year, it won't be until 2017 earliest (honestly, I thought the 3 year turnaround was pretty good, but 2 years might be good too). I think people's stamina and interest for this type of thing is reduced if it's done too often, not to mention this is a pretty big undertaking for me, and it means that for about 6 months I don't get to run any other games that I want to run.
Ho Ho! 2 years! We're all going to be old.
Glad I had the opportunity to take part in this installment! It was one of the most intense games that I have ever played, and it affects me in all angles.
I love my team. I love Westeros circlejerk.
I was able to know more players on a closer personal level. I think that's great.
though, if I did win my nightless, my team won't have won, but then Westeros would have! And every1 would definitely be happy! grumblegrumble
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 1:54 pm
by SleepyKrew
Yeah I'm fine with blaming MS
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 6:59 pm
by Young and Beautiful
SleepyKrew put up the good work.
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 7:42 pm
by AngryPidgeon
↑Tammy wrote:I guess it could depend on the town, but it just seems incredibly difficult for scum to win a nightless game. And not necessarily because there's no way to get rid of the strong town players, but also because the lack of a night phase doesn't give you a refresher period and can increase fatigue. It can do that for town to I guess, but no break is just difficult when you have to try to fool people nonstop without a break.
The scum win that was the most harrowing in my long list of scum games was a 4:8 vanilla nightless. Mollie was there <3
I don't know who was this (if it was any of us at all), but lol!
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:07 pm
by DeasVail
Congrats to Young and Beautiful, and apologies to all for my disengagement and replace-out. A huge thanks for 4nxi3ty for replacing in for me and also to my scumteam for being a really great scum team. I'm sorry I let you down guys.
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:11 pm
by DeasVail
And a humongous thanks to my fantastic team as well. How could I forget?
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 3:32 am
by Titus
Perhaps use each victory as a multiplier for surveys next year. Then raw victories AND player behavior will work.
I am almost tempted to recommend a hidden com game again as well.
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 3:39 am
by xRECKONERx
rather than release the whole topic, I believe Cockettes will be providing selective quotes:
↑xRECKONERx wrote:i just wanna point out that when i tried to type 'scummy' above i actually typed 'dvummy' so i think it's a sign from god that dv is scum
I've never seen Mara play, but her first post struck me as uber try hard. LMAO BPC SAID THE SAME THING.
ETL is likely town for the jump onto Mara. It's a really bad jump, but it reads as genuine. I don't think scum would attack town for skipping RVS? Why do you think "knee jerk" = "scum"? Town also plays kneejerky. Plus the way she calls out Mara reading her as town? I just don't see ETL-scum doing that.
BPC lookin sketch af
Molla can be town for now with that lmao worthy intro post
↑Untrod Tripod wrote:that katsuki lynch was powerful dumb
Yeah,I'm speechless.
Spoiler: On Stress and Mod Error Mafia
↑xRECKONERx wrote:someone fucking help my game because im about to figuratively & literally pull my scrotum out and slap it on the table and flick everyone off
Spoiler: On My Ability to Read Bbmolla
↑xRECKONERx wrote:I'm sure I claimed at some point I can read BBmolla, but I don't know why I said that at this point. I guess I might've lynched him correctly a few times. I still think his early D1 personality of being all, "i'm town, come at me bros" would be pretty out of characters/ballsy for scum-molla to do. Plus his whole "lynch me now and get it over with if you're going to do it" sentiment seems genuine and thus comes from town
↑Quilford wrote:What percentage of my game do you reckon you've thoroughly read and comprehended?
↑Quilford wrote:I'll have little commemorative books made out of that ISO. And they will come with little plaques that say 'Between May 10 and 14, 2015, peak wrongness was achieved. Not by a politician, not in a court, but on a little-known Internet site called mafiascum.net, by a member under the name Metal Sonic.
This is the record of his astonishing feat.'
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 4:13 am
by Untrod Tripod
Spoiler: molasses orgies
↑Untrod Tripod wrote:I know it's awful, but I need all the olive branches I can find for this lynch
