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But that seems to be a question my dear brother will have to think about! Be back later.

↑ lufan131 wrote:OK. I'm Mayu, and if you target me, you lose 20% darkness. That's all the role is.

Is there an ability name / flavour for this?

↑ ZeL1nK2 wrote:

↑ lufan131 wrote:OK. I'm Mayu, and if you target me, you lose 20% darkness. That's all the role is.

Is there an ability name / flavour for this?

The flavor name is Cheerful Personality.

↑ ZeL1nK2 wrote:Also, could you answer these questions?

↑ ZeL1nK2 wrote:Why did you decide notscience is town when previously you thought he was scum?

Why do you think Gaiden and Anamikus are town?

Could you talk about where you're currently at with reads. If they've changed, how they've changed. If they haven't, could you answer the above questions, please.

None have changed.
NotScience did an attitude 180, gaiden and anamikus both appear to be just VT, but not useful IMO. That's why I think, also factors where IDK how to word.

↑ Thor and Loki wrote:that claim seems confirmable and strange power for scum to have

Here is what I'm currently pondering...

A quick perusal of pieguy's last modded game shows fake-claims were completely in line with actual abilities (a global roleblocker had a global roleblocker fake-claim, an ability cop had an ability cop fake-claim). There's too small a sample size to judge whether this will be the same for all games pieguy mods, but it's probably a reasonable assumption that regardless of his alignment, lufan probably does have this ability.

If he does have this ability (which seems rather easy to confirm), I'm trying to figure out how this makes sense as a scum role - based on both flavour and from a mechanics perspective. I currently don't think it does, on either count. The only issue I have here is that the role makes too much sense as a town role (I'm not sure whether this is something that would have slipped pieguy's mind or if this was intentional; a role like that which is confirmable basically means he's very likely town for his role alone).

Three other possibilities here... The first possibility here is he (unlikely) or someone on his scum team (assuming day-chat) just went completely off-book and made up a fake-claim to buy time - but this would require some flavour knowledge and probably would have had to come from one of the more experienced players in this player-list. The second possibility is that pieguy decided to disregard his actual role and gave him a fake-claim that would potentially doom him if anyone had targeted / does target him down the line - this doesn't seem all that likely to me, but I'm not ruling it out completely. The other possibility is, regardless of how little flavour sense it actually makes, pieguy gave scum a role that actually does this for the sake of pure WIFOM - a town-looking role so scum have something to fake-claim and look town.

An addendum to that last possibility. I could (if we completely disregard whether this makes sense based on flavour) see Sachiko having a role like, "as long as you're alive, anything that increases darkness does so at X times the normal rate. However, if someone targets you, they lose 20% of their darkness..." or something along those lines.

But this may or may not be stretching a bit.

I'm just trying to imagine what sort of roles scum is likely to have in this game and what sort of fake-claims are likely to accompany those roles.

Regardless of me thinking the claim doesnt fit, he's still town

Anyways.

It kind of does fit, though.

I was expecting, if Mayu was anything other than a VT, she'd have an IC~esque type role.

It makes sense as a scum role because it could also be a self-watcher so they would then see who did x, or it does the opposite of his claim (increases darkness by 20 of a PR who would then have to claim he visited)

↑ notscience wrote:

(1)

It makes sense as a scum role because it could also be a self-watcher so they would then see who did x,

(2)

or it does the opposite of his claim (increases darkness by 20 of a PR who would then have to claim he visited)

If we disregard flavour completely, I could see it perhaps making sense as a scum role.

Maybe, but as per the second possibility I mentioned in that last paragraph, this opens up the possibility of him being caught in a lie very easily and generally a 1:1 trade is not good for scum unless the PR in question is rather powerful. It is still a possibility, I guess.

We'll know the specifics when he flips

~Wis

If it's a scum role it's a fakeclaim anyway and flavor SHOULD be disregarded.

And it also runs into the following-

A) Multiple PRs target because unless they all claim and coordinate how do they know validity

B) On the same note, PRs can treat it like 'oh well idk maybe another will' and then it's pointless.

pedit-

But we aren't lynching him so he's not going to flip.

Except we are because a claim will not change the fact he is part of a PT and therefore scum.

~Wis

i would be happy with an ns lynch now

i would be happy if you voted lufan. You asked why people aren't voting yet you aren't doing it

~Wis

That's cool, you're way more likely to get lynched than I am so I'll just be over here

Shaking in my boots

and i said that i wanna hammer

nacho also said he wants to hammer. and because we dont have time to waste, you should just vote.

~Wis

sigh, fine fine
VOTE: lufan

lol. IDK why, but there, I voted lol.

what the

I crashed the bandwagon, with my sports car.... Those poor instruments.