Mini #534 - Vegetable Mafia (Game Over!)
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Gorckat: Crub already pointed this out, but I'm NOT nightkill immune, read here. I NEVER claimed that I was.
Additionally, yesterday you were insistent that I was scum and couldn't be an SK because of the nightkills; now you have reversed all these arguments but kept your suspicions exactly the same. You don't get to twist your reasoning in such a tortured manner in order to lynch someone. The only reasons you've given for your suspicion are my PR and my roleclaim. If you have others, you should say what they are. If you don’t, it’s assumed you have none.
Even if your accusation was true, which it's NOT, and therefore we did have only one scum left, why aren't you saying who you think is the remaining scum? Are you even hunting scum at all? In your “unlucky SK” scenario, is Crub or Phate the remaining scum, Gorckat?
Additionally, yesterday you were insistent that I was scum and couldn't be an SK because of the nightkills; now you have reversed all these arguments but kept your suspicions exactly the same. You don't get to twist your reasoning in such a tortured manner in order to lynch someone. The only reasons you've given for your suspicion are my PR and my roleclaim. If you have others, you should say what they are. If you don’t, it’s assumed you have none.
Even if your accusation was true, which it's NOT, and therefore we did have only one scum left, why aren't you saying who you think is the remaining scum? Are you even hunting scum at all? In your “unlucky SK” scenario, is Crub or Phate the remaining scum, Gorckat?
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Which I acknowldged in my last post.Kitty wrote:Gorckat: Crub already pointed this out, but I'm NOT nightkill immune, read here. I NEVER claimed that I was.
What claim? All you've claimed is the ability to stall conversation at will and drag things out!Kitty wrote:The only reasons you've given for your suspicion are my PR and my roleclaim.
Here's the main reason I think you're full of crap: I'm a Miller. Green Peppers become Red Peppers. I'm a bitter, old pepper.Kitty wrote:Are you even hunting scum at all? In your “unlucky SK” scenario, is Crub or Phate the remaining scum, Gorckat?
me wrote:I agree the apparent (can you confirm, tdp?) lack of color specification on Pea (and, to a lesser extent Lettuce- there's red lettuce, irrc) is different, but its what I am- a Green Pepper. I'm sure there's a reason the color is specified.
These were my attempts to breadcrumb it. The second I had meant to say "one roleme wrote:I doubt there's more than one role that fusses with investigations like that.
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", but felt I couldn't correct it without having to out myself then.There was also a poll in MD that started after this game and I had replaced in. It asked if a Miller should be told what they are. I have not voted so I could used screen caps to vote that they should, since I was, if that'd help convince anyone.
I hope it is also clear why I was more suspect of Kitty in all my combinations yesterday. My -1 on tdp was to hopefully get reactions out of Kitty, and because I did really think she was scum.
I can in no way imagine 3 roles that neuter the cop in a 12-person game.
I had hoped my SK speculation would provoke you to claim something easily disprovable, but it seems that you want us to believe you're a townie that doesn't investigate like one.
vote: BooKitty
I was pretty sure yesterday that gorckat was town, but after a reread I ask myself why and all I can come up with is that he was the first to realise I was newbie town rather than slipping scum. But now I think of that, scum would obviously know that, and so much the better if they led the town in realising that, especially if the lynch didn't look like it would go through.
I'm torn between gorckat and Crub, but the way Crub is going after me feels natural, while the way gorckat is going after BooKitty seems forced.
I've got my eye on BooKitty, but I think she's town, especially now that she hasn't been quicklynched.
Soupfly, I'd like you to summarise why you think gorckat is scum.
I'm torn between gorckat and Crub, but the way Crub is going after me feels natural, while the way gorckat is going after BooKitty seems forced.
I've got my eye on BooKitty, but I think she's town, especially now that she hasn't been quicklynched.
Vote: gorckat
Soupfly, I'd like you to summarise why you think gorckat is scum.
I will fuck up your name and gender. Deal with it.
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Phate, this reads like you're suggesting the first person to think you were town is scum. That makes no sense.Phate wrote:I was pretty sure yesterday that gorckat was town, but after a reread I ask myself why and all I can come up with is that he was the first to realise I was newbie town rather than slipping scum. But now I think of that, scum would obviously know that, and so much the better if they led the town in realising that, especially if the lynch didn't look like it would go through.
And how about that mason thing...what was up with asking for a claim when it was done days ago?
Read it again. I'm suggesting that the first person to think I was town isn't necessarily town themselves, not that they're automatically scum.
I missed his claim. That's worthy of suspicion?
I missed his claim. That's worthy of suspicion?
I will fuck up your name and gender. Deal with it.
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So, I could be a survivor with knowledge of who is who? How is the first person to think you were town not town but not scum?Phate wrote:Read it again. I'm suggesting that the first person to think I was town isn't necessarily town themselves, not that they're automatically scum.
Sure is, especially when this sequence happened a ways back:Phate wrote:I missed his claim. That's worthy of suspicion?
soup 614 wrote:i am the other mason. i am y's mason partner.
destructor 615 wrote:I'll buy that.
WhoMe 616 wrote:soupfly - I would have bought your claim without the crumb.
tdp 617 wrote:I believe soupfly's claim. Although a risky move to make,
And then:Phate 618 wrote:I believe it, and I think it was the right play.
Phate 641 wrote:So soupfly's out
Quit putting words in my mouth. I'm not suggesting anything about your alignment except that it's uncertain. In short: I was fairly sure you were town because of an action you took, and I now realise that that action isn't an action that exclusively town would make, as I assumed.
As for soupfly, you have yet to explain to me why forgetting soupfly's claim is worthy of suspicion. Why would scum be more likely to forget a claim?
As for soupfly, you have yet to explain to me why forgetting soupfly's claim is worthy of suspicion. Why would scum be more likely to forget a claim?
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I see what you were saying here. I had read your statement as an absolute "he's not town, but might not be scum". Obviously, that wasn't making sense.Phate wrote:Read it again. I'm suggesting that the first person to think I was town isn't necessarily town themselves, not that they're automatically scum.
On soupfly- "missing" a claim implies you never saw it happen. You clearly saw it happen and twice acknowledged it at the time of its occurence.
Rather than come right out and say, "Oh, yeah- forgot about that", you ignored it one post, said you missed it the next, and have backpedaled to forgot about it.
Its the difference between inattentive and forgetful; the former is scummy, the latter a null-tell.
Obviously I am forgetful; not only did I forget soup's claim, but I forgot that I acknowledged it.
And you have yet to explain the FoS in 781 or why inattentiveness is a scumtell. If, as you say, forgetfulness is a nulltell, why did you FoS me there? You're being very inconsistent.
And you have yet to explain the FoS in 781 or why inattentiveness is a scumtell. If, as you say, forgetfulness is a nulltell, why did you FoS me there? You're being very inconsistent.
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Gorckat scumlinked me with two townies yesterday. Today, his only case against me is my PR and my investigation-immune status. He refuses to answer my question (still valid even now he's claiming his whole SK-accusation was a gambit) about the other scum. Keeping his options open. Claiming miller is odd at this point.
Soupfly is confirmed town. So that leaves Phate, Crub and Gorckat. If Gorckat were town, with his vote on me, then a Phate-Crub scumteam has had ample time by now to jump on that and quicklynch me. Thus Phate and Crub can't be a team; Gorckat must be scum. Soupfly said earlier he would vote Gorckat, so did Crub. Phate and Gorckat have a showy argument about inattention and then Phate votes Gorckat (which seems the smart thing to do, given that the rest have indicated our intentions to vote Gorckat).
Will vote Gorckat next page.
Soupfly is confirmed town. So that leaves Phate, Crub and Gorckat. If Gorckat were town, with his vote on me, then a Phate-Crub scumteam has had ample time by now to jump on that and quicklynch me. Thus Phate and Crub can't be a team; Gorckat must be scum. Soupfly said earlier he would vote Gorckat, so did Crub. Phate and Gorckat have a showy argument about inattention and then Phate votes Gorckat (which seems the smart thing to do, given that the rest have indicated our intentions to vote Gorckat).
Will vote Gorckat next page.
"Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here."
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here."
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How would I know you were just forgetting when I pointed out soup's claim? If you had come out and said that, I'd have thought nothing else of it. Instead you ignored it, said you missed it, said you forgot it.Phate wrote:If, as you say, forgetfulness is a nulltell, why did you FoS me there? You're being very inconsistent.
Its your backpedaling on it I don't like.
@Kitty: Its either Crub or Phate, obv.
For either one, they need you to out the vote out before they can hammer safely. By announcing at what point you will do it, they can be ready to do the deed.
I don't like Phate's recent ignorance of a confirmed mason hanging around, but I haven't pinned either one to you, yet, because I just want you gone after I blew it yesterday and went after tdp.
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Kitty wrote:Soupfly is confirmed town. So that leaves Phate, Crub and Gorckat. If Gorckat were town, with his vote on me, then a Phate-Crub scumteam has had ample time by now to jump on that and quicklynch me. Thus Phate and Crub can't be a team; Gorckat must be scum.
I didn't think I had to break this down, but with Crub following I do: replace gorc for Kitty and it pans out the same.