Open 728: Sharing is Caring (GAME OVER)


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Post Post #775 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 10:56 am

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In post 766, the worst wrote:ofrhz if you aren't scum who is?

I'll give you a hint: we're not lynching me today. :)
My other scumread is pintu

And null reads are math, somethingsmart, BlackStar
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Post Post #776 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 11:00 am

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that's intriguing
talk to me about Bstar and Pintu?
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Post Post #777 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 11:02 am

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In post 769, ruru wrote:
In post 765, ofrhz wrote:Sheep me then
You can't be getting lynched for calling the whole scumteam d1 if you only have like one sr though

Why is tw scum
Basically this
In post 613, HitAlt wrote:
In post 521, the worst wrote:scuse fucking you?

the fuck are you basing this on? I'm suddenly thinking you have no idea what I'm like as a player, and your BoP bullshit is raising more red flags than anything.
This feels like faked aggression.
I think he’s aware of his town meta where he tends to omgus so it would make sense for scum!duckling to fake this
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Post Post #778 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 11:02 am

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Will you be here in a few hours duckling? I should probably work if I want to keep my job
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Post Post #779 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 11:03 am

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that wasn't an omgus reaction that was my knee jerk reaction

I haven't town told yet
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Post Post #780 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 11:04 am

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I will :lol: don't get sacked because of me.

Btw did you answer which pronouns you prefer? I think the pronouns I use to refer to you have changed and IDK if I'm getting stupider
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Post Post #781 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 11:22 am

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@JJH -
I'd like to pester you for some thoughts on two players.

What do you think of MathDino? Ignoring his meta take on you, I'm not concerned with that (I realize it's a burden-of-proficiency-by-proxy take and at what level do you usefully argue with that). More like, do you think he's scummy / not scummy.

What do you think of Daveasz? Scummy or towny?
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Post Post #782 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 11:30 am

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In post 780, the worst wrote:I will :lol: don't get sacked because of me.

Btw did you answer which pronouns you prefer? I think the pronouns I use to refer to you have changed and IDK if I'm getting stupider
she/her is good

it's fine, i purposefully left it ambiguous
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Post Post #783 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 11:32 am

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In post 779, the worst wrote:that wasn't an omgus reaction that was my knee jerk reaction

I haven't town told yet
my issue with it was that it seemed like an overreaction from an otherwise very nice duckling. maybe omgus wasn't the right word

i agree with the second part :P
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Post Post #784 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 11:50 am

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I'm flip flopping on the relevance / utility of posting some VC thoughts.
I should probably wait until Daveasz and JJH answer the pending questions I asked but ugh I like posting and don't like waiting.
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Post Post #785 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 12:26 pm

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Ok work is boring

My issue with BlackStar is him scumreading me for a couple of posts not seeming genuine but when I tried to talk to him about how it could’ve come off less disingenuous, he kind of just ignored it

And if you look at his iso, most of his posts are asking other people for their opinion of me or asking me. I kind of think he is tunneling on me for weak reasons. The tunnel can be from town though, especially one of the posts I quoted earlier kind of reads like “ugh I really think ofrhz is scummy but have no idea who else could be scum with her” which makes me think maybe he does actually think I’m scum instead of just faking the scumread

I would be interested in any of his other reads, especially if they go beyond tone
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Post Post #786 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 2:37 pm

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In post 181, BlackStar wrote:Hitalt, pint and something smart seem town to me. I'm not sure about anyone else yet
In post 291, BlackStar wrote:Ofrhz: somewhere between null and scum. I don't trust him. He started overcompensating as soon as he was called out. It would've felt more natural if he came back, apologized for not posting much and then slowly eased his way into the game
Ruru: brings up good arguments and hasn't really given me any and vibes so far
Hitalt: I like his thought process. It feels town to me

Petit- zoronos is probably town
In post 671, BlackStar wrote:
In post 665, the worst wrote:Blacky--what if anything did you get out of us talking in real time?
Talking to you helped me to better articulate the reasons why ohfrz seems scummy. It also moved you from scum to null
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Post Post #787 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 3:05 pm

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In post 763, ofrhz wrote:
In post 637, BlackStar wrote:Honestly, I'm not sure who could be ohfrz's partner of he flips scum so I'm just trying to spark some discussion
I kinda townread this post
How come?
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Post Post #788 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 3:07 pm

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In post 785, ofrhz wrote:Ok work is boring

My issue with BlackStar is him scumreading me for a couple of posts not seeming genuine but when I tried to talk to him about how it could’ve come off less disingenuous, he kind of just ignored it

And if you look at his iso, most of his posts are asking other people for their opinion of me or asking me. I kind of think he is tunneling on me for weak reasons. The tunnel can be from town though, especially one of the posts I quoted earlier kind of reads like “ugh I really think ofrhz is scummy but have no idea who else could be scum with her” which makes me think maybe he does actually think I’m scum instead of just faking the scumread

I would be interested in any of his other reads, especially if they go beyond tone
I was looking through BlackStar's ISO last night, and I saw him ask a bunch of questions, and one thing that stood out to me strongly is that he seemed to care about the answers to those questions and modify his stances based upon those answers. They weren't just questioned launched pointlessly into the aether to look busy.
I find that is a decent town indicator on D1.

I am leaning towards you being town, so I think he's just wrong in this instance. I don't think Blackstar is scum on the wagon. Hopefully that helps? That's what stood out to me when I was looking at his pattern of questioning.
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Post Post #789 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 3:11 pm

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been sick. caught up.

sounds like jjh heavily warrants a metaread if he's going to be a lynch contender

TW has slightly more town equity as of these past few pages
i'm so wary about fully disclosing a read on TW before i'm confident in it
so let's just not lynch him today
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Post Post #790 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 3:12 pm

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In post 34, pinturicchio wrote:Ok guys real talk: the setup is called "Sharing is Caring", but Mathdino is a dinosaur with really really short hands; how could he share if he can't give you a hand? And by the name of the setup, we can infer that Sharing = Caring, then, if Mathdino can't share, Mathdino doesn't care, quod erat demonstrandum.

Now, Mathdino not caring could mean a lot of things, but what if he doesn't care of people dying because he's scum? That's a possibility, we can't dismiss it.

VOTE: Mathdino
mfw this vote has been left on me all game

if your vote can still be RVS mine can too

VOTE: pinturicchio

OMGUS
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Post Post #791 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 3:38 pm

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Really?
C'mon.
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Post Post #792 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 3:43 pm

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No, not really, that was a joke.

It's just a wagon I want to be pursuing right now. jjh wagon died.

The last few pages bored the shit out of me. If you'd like me to comment on anything, lemme know.
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Post Post #793 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 3:54 pm

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NSG is being a bit on the passive side, so I feel like I could use an extra 'adult in the room'.
If you're not enthused about TW as the ofhrz counterwagon (and since you aren't voting there you don't seem enthused about ofhrz as the lynch), I'd appreciate some help turning over some stones to find a better alternative.
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Post Post #794 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 3:56 pm

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i'm not really enthused about anyone right now? my best work is done post-flip
D1 i prefer to just sheep or PoE a lynch on anyone i'm not townreading

TW is a tough read and i'm only null-town on him
i'll check ofrhz and NSG ISOs
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Post Post #795 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 4:03 pm

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I'm around as well if anyone wants to play tic tac toe or smthn
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Post Post #796 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 4:09 pm

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Math: Here, I wrote this earlier tonight but decided to hold off on posting it. It's a couple hours out of date, I haven't updated it for the last page or so of posts.

Input?

Spoiler: last vc colorized
state of my thoughts with some mild coloring applied. (I realize the green makes it hard to read the names, that's kind of intentional. I wanted them filtered out)

ofrhz
(4):
northsidegal
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BlackStar
, the worst,
HeWhoSwims
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the worst (3):
HitAlt
, jjh927,
ofrhz
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jjh927 (1): Mathdino,
Mathdino (1):
pinturicchio
,
ruru
(1): davesaz,
Something_Smart (1):
ruru
,

Not Voting: Something_Smart,
Zoronos
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If I'm putting something_smart aside, that means it's 3/4 scum in MathDino, JJH, the_worst, and davesaz.
If the worst is town, that means jjh is probably scum on the wagon, and daze is scum off the wagon, and I'm wrong about something_smart (I don't think there's a solid scum-dino -> town-Duck associative right now)
If the worst is scum, that probably still puts davesaz as scum off the wagon, and makes me think my HWS town-lean is wrong because he +1'ed HitAlt's stupid Zoronos+TW associative, possibly intending to use it if his partner got flipped while voting the counterwagon.

So, the big question atm is whether it's correct or not to put something_smart aside, and to fix the ??'s in my sort on JJH and davesaz.
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Post Post #797 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 4:11 pm

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In post 795, the worst wrote:I'm around as well if anyone wants to play tic tac toe or smthn
Want to talk a bit about BlackStar? How do you feel regarding him at the moment?
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Post Post #798 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 4:30 pm

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In post 797, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 795, the worst wrote:I'm around as well if anyone wants to play tic tac toe or smthn
Want to talk a bit about BlackStar? How do you feel regarding him at the moment?
I actually like him. I thought he was kinda floating by earlier in the phase but much more comfortable he's actually playing the game rn

Leaning town basically.


Where are u at with Bstar?
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Post Post #799 (ISO) » Tue May 29, 2018 4:32 pm

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In post 795, the worst wrote:I'm around as well if anyone wants to play tic tac toe or smthn
redacted btw I am garbage at tic tac toe
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