NY 213 - Game Over!

[Myloninja13]

I mostly agree with their points here, and I also don't really understand most of the scumreads going their way.

[Almost50]

updated lynch pool, in no particular order:

performer
a50
khan
hopkirk
jarjar
therampage


those are names i want to discuss more. i expect at least 4 of those to be scum
VOTE: performer
since people dont wanna talk about jarjar

Translation: I'm scum reading two thirds of my wagon (the last 6 voters out of a total of 9).

Do you thing the whole scum team is voting you in succession here???

[Almost50]

*THINK

[Kublai Khan]

I mostly agree with their points here, and I also don't really understand most of the scumreads going their way.

Could you be more vague?

[Kublai Khan]

@Flavor Leaf - You have 4 votes and half as many reads.

[texcat]

Dunnstral
Performer
Almost50
Golden Robster
Pine
Creature
HopKirk
Gamma Emerald
Lalendra
Lovebird
Myloninja13

These are town slots to me.

UNVOTE:

You were voting for Myloninja, weren't you? What changed? Also can you tell us about your tr on Lovebird?

[Lalendra]

I was ready to vote Osuka, but I really liked his catch-up. It's been a while since I've played a game this large and while I'm still trying to sort the people who have posted, it feels like we have a LOT of people who aren't doing enough for me to read them. Whether that's intentional or not is hard to say at this stage.

[Dunnstral]

What part of his catch up did you like?

[JarJarDrinks]

jarjar i'll tell you right now that you're in a pretty deep hole but so are some other slots, so if you just let go of the shovel and let everyone else dig themselves deeper, you might not top my lynch list tonight

lol have u looked at a vote count recently? Pretty sure one of us needs to dig themselves out of something but it aint me.

[Ircher]

Day 1 VC #18

Performer (1) - EspeciallyTheLies (515)
Almost50 (0) -
Golden Robster (1) - Vaxkiller (678)
Pine (0) -
Creature (0) -
Kublai Khan (0) -
Hopkirk (0) -

Edosurist

Gamma Emerald (1) - Lovebird (259)
Ausuka (1) - Scioness Sajj (406)
Lalendra (1) - WhemeStar (234)
Lovebird (1) - Andriod18 (290)
JarJarDrinks (1) - Myloninja13 (326)

Osuka (9) - Dunnstral (77), Texcat, Pine (176), Almost50 (390), JarJarDrinks (535), Performer (623), TheRampage (681), Hopkirk (696), Kublai Khan (725)

Andriod18 (0) -
Texcat (1) - ArcAngel9 (604)
ArcAngel9 (0) -

Charles510

Vaxkiller (3) (1C / 2V) - Wavemode (131) (C), Golden Robster (602) (V), Gamma Emerald (710) (V)
Wavemode (0) -
TheRampage (2) - Ausuka (743), Osuka (771)
Myloninja13 (1) - Creature (720)
Scioness Sajj (0) -
Not Voting (2) - Flavor Leaf, Lalendra (559)

Lynch Threshold

During day 1, it takes 13 votes to lynch a player.

Deadline

Day 1 ends on June 30, 2018 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4:00) or in (expired on 2018-06-30 20:00:00).

Moderator Notes

EspeciallyTheLies is V/LA for an indefinite time.
Prodded Lovebird. They have (expired on 2018-06-24 09:40:11) to respond in-thread.
If you notice any mistakes, please point them out. (That includes looking at the voting history.)

Spoiler: Current Voting History

Day 1

Dunnstral: Osuka (77)
Srceenplay (0): (Null)
Peformer: Osuka (623)
Joral (0): (Null)
Almost50: Hopkirk (97) --> Edosurist (226) --> Osuka (390)
Fumuki (0): (Null)
Golden Robster: Almost50 (177) --> Wavemode (183) --> Osuka (236) --> Ausuka (317) --> JarJarDrinks (319) --> (Null) (546) --> Vaxkiller (602)
Pine: Osuka (176)
Creature: Performer (385) --> Myloninja13 (720)
Kublai Khan: Osuka (76) --> Almost50 (122) --> Scioness Sajj (388) --> JarJarDrinks (536) --> Osuka (725)
WhemeStar: Lalendra (234)
Hopkirk: Osuka (90) --> Lalendra (279) --> Osuka (696)
Edosurist: Texcat (84) --> Almost50 (222)
Gamma Emerald: Vaxkiller (710)
Ausuka: JarJarDrinks (89) --> Creature (104) --> Myloninja13 (429) --> (Null) (742) --> TheRampage (743)
Lalendra: Almost50 (209) --> (Null) (559)
EspeciallyTheLies: Almost50 (83) --> Performer (515)
Lovebird: Edosurist (259)
JarJarDrinks: Osuka (85) --> Almost50 (114) --> Charles510 (186) --> Edosurist (231) --> Osuka (535)
Osuka: Wavemode (80) --> JarJarDrinks (124) --> ArcAngel9 (229) --> Pine (332) --> JarJarDrinks (353) --> Performer (769) --> TheRampage (771)
Texcat: Osuka (79)
Andriod18: Kublai Khan (190) --> Lovebird (290)
ArcAngel9: Texcat (81) --> TheRampage (223) --> Texcat (604)
Charles510 (2): JarJarDrinks (87) --> (Null) (310)
Vaxkiller: JarJarDrinks (363) --> Scioness Sajj (389) --> Andriod18 (437) --> JarJarDrinks (532) --> Golden Robster (678)
Wavemode: Texcat (82) --> Charles510 (131)
TheRampage: Creature (100) --> (Null) (509) --> Osuka (681)
Myloninja13: Edosurist (233) --> JarJarDrinks (326)
Scioness Sajj: Ausuka (406)

Spoiler: Previous Voting History

Pre-Game

Dunnstral (2): Texcat (9) --> Pine (43)
Srceenplay (1): Andriod18 (62)
Pine (1): Osuka (16)
Kublai Khan (1): Pine (34)
Hopkirk (1): Osuka (66)
Edosurist (1): Pine (42)
Osuka (2): Pine (28) --> Wavemode (33)
Texcat (1): Pine (44)
Wavemode (1): Osuka (31)

[JarJarDrinks]

You are not on my town list nor are on anyone elses.

Poppycock!!

rtft

No ones hard defending you or convincing me otherwise including you!

Well no shit no one's hard defending me. How tf does that have anything to do w/ ur read on me?

Like are u basically saying that you're voting me cuz it's easiest?

Like isn't that some straight ass backwards thinking?

Scum are always harder to lynch than town because they have people on their side.

The fact that no one is hard defending me should lead Vax to townread me, not scumread me.

not necessarily my guy. maybe in a newbie but definitely not here

nice wifom though

Are you saying that nobody hard-defending someone on day 1 is reason to scum read them?

Nice chainsaw though.

[JarJarDrinks]

how far up your ass, exactly, is your head?

you're picking on rvs posts? we're in the 600s already - if this isn't a straight up invented case on someone, i don't know what is

and "consolidate votes"? really? that sounds disgusting

why would you want to "consolidate votes" (read: wagon someone, probably town, so that you can lynch someone without personal repercussions) halfway through the day, especially if it's day 1? we still have a week left until n1 and you're already talking about the deadline, jesus

consolidating votes sounds like a protown suggestion to me. Nothing worse than getting close to the deadline w/ single votes all thrown about.

[JarJarDrinks]

I think osuka is a town slot also now.

Ur gonna have to try to sell this more if u expect votes to come off him. What's town?

[JarJarDrinks]

Is tehre a case on osuka or just the typical Day 1 lynchmob?

not a case per se but I give a reason in 112

followup to ur followup:

if I got a nickel for every time this was said about me

what specifically do u get called out about? Being LAMIST?

i mean what they say will vary, but I generally get called out as being scummy very early in the game by at least some of the players. Usually during rvs

So I guess we should just give u a pass on any scumminess huh?

scumpoints for an unprompted self-meta this early in the game

this is, hands down, one of the most shit reasons i've ever seen anyone try to start a lynch wagon on d1 for. especially given that the post of mine you use as the (apparently sole) reason for the push was actually a reply to a question of none other than yourself

Nah, self meta is scummy.

[JarJarDrinks]

VOTE: Osuka

As I have been reading through all these pages and catching up, the thing that stood out to me was the self meta thing, along with his response through voting JarJar. Seems a little overly defensive and to me like he picked and chose the easiest target to go after to try and get another lynch wagon going.

funny way to write "i'll just sheep jarjar"

I thought it may have been funny way to write "I'll just bus osuka".

[JarJarDrinks]

I'm not really thinking Osuka is scum here tbh.

WTF u too?

that's a 2nd crappy osuka townread w/ no conviction behind it. Who's scum Myl?

[Andriod18]

osuka's flip would interest me but I don't think it'd flip scum mostly because he's been a topic of the game for the whole thing.

[Dunnstral]

Why does that mean he can't be scum?

[osuka]

You are not on my town list nor are on anyone elses.

Poppycock!!

rtft

No ones hard defending you or convincing me otherwise including you!

Well no shit no one's hard defending me. How tf does that have anything to do w/ ur read on me?

Like are u basically saying that you're voting me cuz it's easiest?

Like isn't that some straight ass backwards thinking?

Scum are always harder to lynch than town because they have people on their side.

The fact that no one is hard defending me should lead Vax to townread me, not scumread me.

not necessarily my guy. maybe in a newbie but definitely not here

nice wifom though

Are you saying that nobody hard-defending someone on day 1 is reason to scum read them?

Nice chainsaw though.

i never said that.

nice misrep though

[osuka]

when i flip green tonight please lynch jarjar tomorrow

[JarJarDrinks]

You are not on my town list nor are on anyone elses.

Poppycock!!

rtft

No ones hard defending you or convincing me otherwise including you!

Well no shit no one's hard defending me. How tf does that have anything to do w/ ur read on me?

Like are u basically saying that you're voting me cuz it's easiest?

Like isn't that some straight ass backwards thinking?

Scum are always harder to lynch than town because they have people on their side.

The fact that no one is hard defending me should lead Vax to townread me, not scumread me.

not necessarily my guy. maybe in a newbie but definitely not here

nice wifom though

Are you saying that nobody hard-defending someone on day 1 is reason to scum read them?

Nice chainsaw though.

i never said that.

nice misrep though

No but u implied it. ANd if u werent implying it then what is the point of saying it?

I'm calling out Vax because his reason for voting me is terrible. He said that the fact that nobody is defending me is a his reason for voting me.

Do you think that is a bad reason or not?

[osuka]

You are not on my town list nor are on anyone elses.

Poppycock!!

rtft

No ones hard defending you or convincing me otherwise including you!

Well no shit no one's hard defending me. How tf does that have anything to do w/ ur read on me?

Like are u basically saying that you're voting me cuz it's easiest?

Like isn't that some straight ass backwards thinking?

Scum are always harder to lynch than town because they have people on their side.

The fact that no one is hard defending me should lead Vax to townread me, not scumread me.

not necessarily my guy. maybe in a newbie but definitely not here

nice wifom though

Are you saying that nobody hard-defending someone on day 1 is reason to scum read them?

Nice chainsaw though.

i never said that.

nice misrep though

No but u implied it. ANd if u werent implying it then what is the point of saying it?

I'm calling out Vax because his reason for voting me is terrible. He said that the fact that nobody is defending me is a his reason for voting me.

Do you think that is a bad reason or not?

i'm not implying it. i'm stating it so as to discredit your point, because your point was horseshit. whether you're being hard defended or not, at a decent level of play, is nai - it's only useful to draw association conclusions, none of which can be done d1 (because there's no flip).

now, assuming he is voting you only for not being on anyone's townreads, i do agree that that is pretty terrible. however, that does not mean that the way you defended yourself, or the arguments you posed to convince us that it is terrible, are not also terrible. In fact, they're terribler.

i think his reasons are pretty bad, but i do think that you're more scummy than his reasons are bad. so, unless you give me reason not to, i'm siding with vax on this one

[WhemeStar]

VOTE: JarJar

[Creature]

k we need to do something

[Creature]

Edosoturist's slot is town btw