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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 3:34 am
by Reasonably Rational
In post 774, RadiantCowbells wrote: In post 770, Reasonably Rational wrote:@RC - Back to reading and more thoughts incoming. #756 is gross but I'm giving you a pass for the moment simply because we haven't played together since I moved last year (I don't think?) and I doubt you actually know you are basically saying "If Drixx doesn't take time away from caring for his elderly father who is about to have major and risky back surgery and is also showing signs of Alzheimer's OR from his newly started job and be super active, then I'm going to assume he's scum."
Best thing I can says is just check the Drixx account and the recently finished BS game. I had a pretty ugly time crunch early and you probably would have pushed to lynch me based upon what you're saying in #756.
I'm doing my best to avoid that in this game. So speaking of that ... going to try and get 100% current by mid day. I'll check the current thread state occasionally but otherwise see you all on the other side of reading a bunch of posts.
~D
I haven't given you any sort of invasive timeline
Just that if you not posting is a long term thing it's a problem
Cool. I just am not as post count heavy as I used to be. I'm also a bit more prone to drop in shorter thoughts when I have a few minutes. The early game ruckus over your mason claim is interdesting. Good job.
~D
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 3:35 am
by RadiantCowbells
VOTE: Toranaga
Elsa read is fucking obviously TMI of some sort
Approaches all game have been scummy
Don't like Cheekys 180 there.
I voted Deedles because I wanted to see how she'd react before I decided what else to do.
If y'all want to try to lynch me D1 be my guest but Tor has to instadie tomorrow because, as I said, bloody obvscum
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 3:42 am
by RadiantCowbells
Also as I pointed out Toranaga the last time he played with a survivor was insistient that the proper approach to survivor was to PL them because you can't trust anyone without a town role PM. His approach in this game is to just straight up buy a strange and sketchy 3pdoc claim and insist that it's town and chainsaw anyone who pushes it. His read on Elsa doesn't make any sense coming from town him in terms of his insistence that they're 'genuine' as a way to handwave all the sketchy shit about him and he decided to completely in one ear and out the other the fact that Elsa is known for being genuine as town.
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 3:43 am
by RadiantCowbells
Also having played against Tor who suspects that I'm scum before this is not how he talks to me. A lot less bravado personally directed at me. He's making a show for all your stupid asses.
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 3:49 am
by RadiantCowbells
In post 764, Toranaga wrote:and thor hasn't been scummy. thor has been thor. he can be scum, he can be town, who knows, right? it's thor, he makes himself hard to read and is one of the only players with MS with a reasonably balanced meta. so that scumread is poop too.
and, yeah. no wanting here, I think RC is scum. I think d2 is wonderful without him regardless but the horrible pushes and nonsensical associative reads are par with RC's scum game.
Like what is he actually saying here?
-Thor is impossible to read therefore your scumread there is poop
-The horrible pushes and nonsensical associatives reads are "on par' with RC's scum game" as opposed to being from it
Like I realize at least 2 of the hop ons are scum but
The idea that any town is voting me I give the side eye to.
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 3:51 am
by RadiantCowbells
Also congrats I was only not voting you because I didn't want to start shit but when you express the sentiment that you want to lynch me regardless of alignment the kid gloves are off instantly.
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 3:58 am
by Elsa Jay
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:00 am
by Reasonably Rational
In post 156, Toogeloo wrote:Mod responded to my request for flavor. I'm a Reaver. That's a good guy, right?
Also...
Vote: Reasonably Rational
Serious vote as my tryhard alarm is pinging.
This is a little gross. Toog literally just played with Cerb and I and saw the lengths Cerberus went to when communicating via a Spirit Medium role after he died to be super try hard and leverage the situation in order to generate responses and get reads
while he was freaking dead and communicating through an unknown alignment intermediary
. It doesn't get much more try hard than that.
So ... how on earth are a couple pretty short posts ringing alarms?
o.O
~D
P.S. - So I'm doing the catch up from behind thing. Sorry. Too much interesting shit.
@RC - What's up with
#114?
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:01 am
by RadiantCowbells
In post 758, BuJaber wrote: In post 754, RadiantCowbells wrote:That's been my major basis for Tor scum ftr
Feel like he saw Elsa claim multiball and assumed they were his opposition and tried to hard seem pocketed to avoid crosskill
This makes sense for both scum!Elsa and neutral!Elsa so why are you scumreading him? Talk me through how scum!Elsa endgames here with a day 1 claim of neutral doc.
Unless you think we'll fail to catch all other scum before we get around to lynching Elsa.
I don't believe that A50 adds a neutral doctor to the setup and I don't believe that it happens to go to the player with a survivor fetish. I do believe that town or scum doc Elsa claims the way he did and I think that according to his play he's scum rather than town. Like the odds of Elsa actually happening to roll the survivor role are abysmal but the odds of him faking as 3p are surprisingly high!
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:01 am
by Reasonably Rational
Can we wagon Tora? I have a good reason.
~D
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:03 am
by RadiantCowbells
#114 is an expression of my respect for a player who has consistently performed well in games with me recently.
Can we wagon Tora? I have a good reason.
~D
Be my guest be my guest put my wagon to the test
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:04 am
by Reasonably Rational
VOTE: Toranaga
This needs votes. Don't be dumb please.
Also ... 3p claims are gonna get treated really badly by this player list. And like ... Jay knows that right?
~D
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:07 am
by RadiantCowbells
I don't think Elsa claiming 3p inherently says anything besides that Elsa likes claiming 3p as not 3p.
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:07 am
by Elsa Jay
I claimed earlier then later so I have more time to defend myself and prove my worth.
Clearly I'm getting scumread, but confirming Multiball and trying to figure shit out is all I can do to convince you all not to murder me.
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:08 am
by RadiantCowbells
We're not lynching you we are lynching Toranaga
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:10 am
by Elsa Jay
In post 787, RadiantCowbells wrote:I don't think Elsa claiming 3p inherently says anything besides that Elsa likes claiming 3p as not 3p.
I have NEVER claimed Survivor in the past, only played like one. Big difference.
Pedit: so your sayingvthe current optimal play in your eyes is... To lynch one of the dudes voting to keep me alive?
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:11 am
by RadiantCowbells
In post 790, Elsa Jay wrote: In post 787, RadiantCowbells wrote:I don't think Elsa claiming 3p inherently says anything besides that Elsa likes claiming 3p as not 3p.
I have NEVER claimed Survivor in the past, only played like one. Big difference.
Pedit: so your sayingvthe current optimal play in your eyes is... To lynch one of the dudes voting to keep me alive?
If you don't vote Toranaga and he flips scum we assume you're his buddy and powerlynch him so, yeah.
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:14 am
by RadiantCowbells
Elsa you're not 3p and there is no reason why a 3p would know it's multiball. If you're town and know something we don't that is fine but you're not doing yourself any favors claiming as 3p regardless of alignment
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:14 am
by Toranaga
In post 777, RadiantCowbells wrote:Also as I pointed out Toranaga the last time he played with a survivor was insistient that the proper approach to survivor was to PL them because you can't trust anyone without a town role PM. His approach in this game is to just straight up buy a strange and sketchy 3pdoc claim and insist that it's town and chainsaw anyone who pushes it. His read on Elsa doesn't make any sense coming from town him in terms of his insistence that they're 'genuine' as a way to handwave all the sketchy shit about him and he decided to completely in one ear and out the other the fact that Elsa is known for being genuine as town.
on a turbo and you're a loud, annoying, emotional player who I hate playing with, and your claim was not even remotely close as good as elsa's. you claimed survivor on d2 iirc and I had no reason to believe you.
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:17 am
by Toranaga
In post 779, RadiantCowbells wrote: In post 764, Toranaga wrote:and thor hasn't been scummy. thor has been thor. he can be scum, he can be town, who knows, right? it's thor, he makes himself hard to read and is one of the only players with MS with a reasonably balanced meta. so that scumread is poop too.
and, yeah. no wanting here, I think RC is scum. I think d2 is wonderful without him regardless but the horrible pushes and nonsensical associative reads are par with RC's scum game.
Like what is he actually saying here?
-Thor is impossible to read therefore your scumread there is poop
-The horrible pushes and nonsensical associatives reads are "on par' with RC's scum game" as opposed to being from it
Like I realize at least 2 of the hop ons are scum but
The idea that any town is voting me I give the side eye to.
how are thor and elsa associated at all? what makes them scum together?
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:17 am
by Toranaga
you never do, drixx
bring back cerb
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:17 am
by RadiantCowbells
I have my reasons and you don't need to hear them.
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:20 am
by Toranaga
In post 786, Reasonably Rational wrote:VOTE: Toranaga
This needs votes. Don't be dumb please.
Also ... 3p claims are gonna get treated really badly by this player list. And like ... Jay knows that right?
~D
not if town is smart
jay is claiming positive utility to town and there's no reason to distrust him. if he thought everyone was stupid, then sure he'd be concerned of getting "treated badly", but I only see RC and the worst going after him, and RC is scum.
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:21 am
by Chickadee
VOTE: Toranaga
I have nothing better to be doing.
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:21 am
by Toranaga
you have a red role pm
you're right that I don't need to hear your reasons, they're fake