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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:12 am
by Moment
In post 646, Sakura Hana wrote:Why does it always have to take me getting mad and frustrated to townread my towngames.
If it means anything to you, I haven't been considering your early pairing as a scum move for a while now, just one that I couldn't understand.
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Really? I've actually been getting the feeling that he's scum here. At least, he doesn't seem similar at all to any of the games I've played with him where over time it just became apparent that he was town and was never really a question at all.
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In post 752, Sakura Hana wrote:
Well that game he was a traitor. That role is pretty demoralizing.
OTOH I dunno what to think of him, he's been focusing so much on the "lack" of town motivation for my opening move than whether it had any actual scum motivation.
I don't think I've been focusing on that specifically over discussing other things, just commenting on it when it's come up.
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Let me just go through things here.
I think Dunnstral, SirCakez, Karmeleon, and shotaru are town. If other people are confident in their ability to read Kokichi and say that he's town then I'll accept that (while also looking bitterly back at the people who said something similar about Maria in Forgotten Hourglass).
That leaves Gamma and Brian from the Gentlemen.
I don't have reasons to think Maria is town but I haven't noticed her being scum yet. For now I'll take that as her just being town rather than my not reading closely enough to have noticed her being scum. Sakura Hana is town, and ChibiBear seems town to me. Actually, that leaves me with a lot more left over Ladies than I thought. I seem to be the minority opinion when it comes to not townreading DVa (and perhaps LLD?).
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:18 am
by Moment
In post 750, MariaR wrote:I want Sakura Kokichi and Dunn to tell me how they feel about moment because I feel moments play here is night and day from BBtag
I didn't exactly have much "play" there in the first place - sorry about that, by the way.
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:45 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 554, DVa wrote:Yeah, I can see why you dislike those posts, but I feel like scum Sakura would have written them differently.
Instead of quoting the post and responding with her different take, she'd say, "LLD townreads [these four people], but that's wrong."
Like it's how she engages for me. When she was scum in BoR, she was 'this person said this, this person said that, this is how I feel about this thing that happened.'
Here she's, "You're wrong" and "I'm fosing here" and "but why?"
Like the style and structure of engagement seems really different to me and that's one of the things that always stands out to me in how certain people play scum vs town. it's why I was scumreading her in BoR and why I'm not here
Not sure about the real difference there?
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:47 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 570, SirCakez wrote:Yo I have been following along today but obviously I took the L on actually commenting. Will try to write up some thoughts and reread.
To ngl this looks like someone in the scum PT reminded him to post
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:50 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 591, Sakura Hana wrote:I've had enough of this.
@Kokichi: If you accept im going to suicide as soon as first dance starts, so dont accept.
Just leave me to die if you guys are going to hung over my head all my past scum wins.
People are arguing the opposite?
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:59 am
by shortaru
Considering I said it first in
747, it doesn't make sense at all.
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:20 am
by Kokichi Oma
In post 591, Sakura Hana wrote:I've had enough of this.
@Kokichi: If you accept im going to suicide as soon as first dance starts, so dont accept.
Just leave me to die if you guys are going to hung over my head all my past scum wins.
Ok. I'll accept you ONLY if you promise not to suicide
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:26 am
by Sakura Hana
In post 781, Kokichi Oma wrote: In post 591, Sakura Hana wrote:I've had enough of this.
@Kokichi: If you accept im going to suicide as soon as first dance starts, so dont accept.
Just leave me to die if you guys are going to hung over my head all my past scum wins.
Ok. I'll accept you ONLY if you promise not to suicide
Too late
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:40 am
by Gamma Emerald
Mmmm tasty shade
I think Brian is the person I suspect most rn
Sakura, do you agree Brian is shady?
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:44 am
by Sakura Hana
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:45 am
by Sakura Hana
I do admit that i find him kinda different than what im used to tho?
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:47 am
by Sakura Hana
Although that touhou game he was scum at was pretty similar to what i know of town him, so i dont think im that good at finding any meta differences. But I find him kinda underwhelming this game.
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:58 am
by Karmeleon
In post 580, ChibiBear wrote: In post 575, shortaru wrote: In post 573, ChibiBear wrote:I mean you specified different from old dances but then you go on to describe non-dance games.
No. Why don't you ask for clarification instead of jump to conclusions?
I've been looking over some of the old dances
(to familiarize myself with the format)
since my /in, and wow, this game is different
(from what I'm used to playing)
. Cool, though!
Make sense?
No jumping here m8, thanks for the clarification.
English is my first language now but it hasn't always been
and I have run into trouble in past games with misunderstanding things/being misunderstood because my grammar is still a bit iffy.
Then english isn't your first language.
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:06 am
by Gamma Emerald
Why
I feel relatively confident in my read on him rn
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:08 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 761, DVa wrote:odd thought but the scum is randomized right?
it's not guaranteed that there is at least 1 male?
Yeah it’s pure random
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:11 am
by ChibiBear
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:12 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 786, Sakura Hana wrote:Although that touhou game he was scum at was pretty similar to what i know of town him, so i dont think im that good at finding any meta differences. But I find him kinda underwhelming this game.
Excellent, you got the direction I was going with my question. Brian definitely feels similar to touhou this game in how flat his posts feel.
Now can someone address my Cakez concern?
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:15 am
by Sakura Hana
I spectated the Touhou game, so im not sure how it felt to actually interact with him, one thing that crossed my mind was that his stance towards claims was the same back in Midnight scummer's dream, it's something easy to continue to do as scum tho. My main concern is that he feels different from Phantom Hourglass and Minuet's Trio. It feels like he has no aim and is just commenting.
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:16 am
by Gamma Emerald
Coulda sworn you were in that touhou game
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:17 am
by Sakura Hana
This however, feels like he's aware that he's not doing anything to be hardly townread for and is surprised that someone is townreading him that high.
Mental Note: If either LLD or Brian is scum, they arent scum together.
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:17 am
by Sakura Hana
Nah I didnt play touhou upick 5, i played the previous 4 tho.
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:18 am
by Gamma Emerald
I think I mistook you for someone else then
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:18 am
by Sakura Hana
In post 794, Sakura Hana wrote:
This however, feels like he's aware that he's not doing anything to be hardly townread for and is surprised that someone is townreading him that high.
Mental Note: If either LLD or Brian is scum, they arent scum together.
Addenum that I forgot: This could possibly mean Brian town.
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:09 am
by Karmeleon
In post 652, MariaR wrote:God I wish I played on an alt so there wouldn't be paranoia and I could dance with Cakez
Hi
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:10 am
by Gamma Emerald
Missed that from Maria
The thing is shed alt slip at some point and blow her cover