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In post 770, Krazy wrote:

In post 765, the worst wrote:Krazy are you town this time?
do you mind if I'm dumping you in my "dies eventually anyway" block?

I am in fact town this game. But you haven't mislynched me yet since schadd's game so I'm not exactly holding my breath for you to townread me here

your play here is So markedly different from there and I like the way you're conducting yourself around town blocking self exclusively so I don't actually think I want to lynch you here.

am I weird?

In post 775, the worst wrote:am I weird?

of course you are, you're my nerd dream girl <3 <3 <3

jeez you make me blush...

ok PvtUrist could go exactly either way from here. he vibes awkward so far

In post 768, Allomancer wrote:Well if you don't read, how is any conversation supposed to have a basis? "Go read" is not a basis, but actually reading is.

Dude like you just don't seem to get it.

At all. Anything. I don't fundamentally know how your mind works at all and you frustrate me because you like see shit in such a twisted way that in my eyes distorts the very nature of what it is. And I try to pear through the glasses and see anything and I can't. What are you responding to? What do you think I was saying?

Like I am not saying reading isn't necessary but for some reason you add in that as though you dispute me while not disputing me and I don't think you even realize what you are responding to?

This is how things played out:

I asked the worst why he was reading you as town.
The worst says "well go read his ISO"
I respond by saying "Well I am not going to go read that" with what I should have should have added "why won't you tell me why you are reading him as town because i asked you"
He then tells me I am breaking the flow of conversation basically and destroying good faith.

I then point out, he broke the conversation by not answering me directly and pushing me to go do something without actually addressing what he said. You could say he did so because he actually thought me reading your ISO would give me the answer, but i wanted his answer. Not just reading posts.

So fucking communication breaks down. At what point? Well FMPOV it was when the worst told me to read an ISO and from his when i said i am not going to go read an ISO like that is a substitue for his answer.


It would be like if we were in a courtroom and we asked a witness a question and they responded "Well go read X. Its there". No, I want your fucking answer to the question.

God i am so pissed at allomancer.

In post 778, Firebringer wrote:At all. Anything. I don't fundamentally know how your mind works at all and you frustrate me because you like see shit in such a twisted way that in my eyes distorts the very nature of what it is. And I try to pear through the glasses and see anything and I can't. What are you responding to? What do you think I was saying?

Work thru this w me
I think you realise he's coming from a genuine place

The problem is you stated that you literally refuse to read. That's not good any way you put it

In post 777, the worst wrote:jeez you make me blush...

ok PvtUrist could go exactly either way from here. he vibes awkward so far

I think the basis behind his reads will probably show which alignment he is pretty easily honestly since they're so different from everybody elses

Although I am starting to get paranoid that I'm not reading the game correctly since I have a lot of people leaning town and very few people left that aren't.

In post 780, the worst wrote:

In post 778, Firebringer wrote:At all. Anything. I don't fundamentally know how your mind works at all and you frustrate me because you like see shit in such a twisted way that in my eyes distorts the very nature of what it is. And I try to pear through the glasses and see anything and I can't. What are you responding to? What do you think I was saying?

Work thru this w me
I think you realise he's coming from a genuine place

wtf does genuine have to do with anything here? Like you think he is actively sorting shit? Cause I see none of that. Most of his posts have no meaning behind it.

It can all be genuine and it is still vapid and not worthy of a read. What are you reading into that makes this a scum or town mindset? You are reading into things that I see as meangless. I am not seeing what genuinely is townie here.

I also have him as pretty obvtown and I think most people reading his posts... will probably agree... I'll go read his scumgames if he has any but he hasn't given me any cause to think he's trying to Solve The Fuck outta this

In post 782, Ankamius wrote:

In post 777, the worst wrote:jeez you make me blush...

ok PvtUrist could go exactly either way from here. he vibes awkward so far

I think the basis behind his reads will probably show which alignment he is pretty easily honestly since they're so different from everybody elses

Although I am starting to get paranoid that I'm not reading the game correctly since I have a lot of people leaning town and very few people left that aren't.

Who would you consider the townreads you're feeling less comfortable about? I'm p sure this is a 3p scumteam so it's not abnormal to have a large number of townreads

I hope
otherwise I'm fucked

also fundamentally agree wrt PvtUrist. for a newbie (and because lolmeta) I think his reads going slightly against the grain is town indicative but it's weak as hell.

I am not saying he is scum. I am saying theres zero town thinking here. I don't see genuine-ness as a town tell. I am being genuine angry here. Is my genuine anger now equal to town? You would say no, right?

So why is the genuine nature of allo relevant to this? Do you think he wouldn't be genuine like this as scum? In what way would it be different?

well. very against the grain.
he's not a cheeky scumfuck

In post 549, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:

In post 486, mcqueen wrote:You know what’s Krazy? Krazy was the IC in my first game on site.

Saw a couple posts. People aren’t offering dances? Sucks, cause I wanna offer to Nancy but I can’t look scummy right?

Spoiler:

yes. i joined cause i wanted to play with you

In post 787, Firebringer wrote:I am not saying he is scum. I am saying theres zero town thinking here. I don't see genuine-ness as a town tell. I am being genuine angry here. Is my genuine anger now equal to town? You would say no, right?

So why is the genuine nature of allo relevant to this? Do you think he wouldn't be genuine like this as scum? In what way would it be different?

There's only two alignments here sweaty. he's town or he's scum. if you think the townreads on him are unfair due to possible emotional scumrange but don't want to read his posts I'm like......

OK then....?
what's your goal
ヽ(｀⌒´)ノ

I don't think Allo is known for having a particularly wide range/emotional range as town where you are (and so am e.g. I)

My issue with Slax is all I really see in his iso is a lot of angry posts where he appears to get pissed off. If we take anger as NAI and just look at the content and context posts I really dislike his posts.

In post 167, Slaxx wrote:

In post 165, Adelbert Steiner wrote:

In post 163, Slaxx wrote:

In post 161, the worst wrote:

In post 157, Slaxx wrote:

In post 156, the worst wrote:

In post 152, Slaxx wrote:

In post 149, the worst wrote:

In post 148, Firebringer wrote:the read is genuine

In post 11, Firebringer wrote:This is a Trust Tell. A bannable offense and needs to be removed from the game.

Was this in reference to our mindmeld or separate?

separate
it was a shitpost

lol

do u see what i see

I'm suddenly starting to think maybe not

Wait you're not on Adel SR?

It is funny to me that once again you have scum read me, and it matters not what account I am on.

The fact you're an alt makes that way way worse tbh.

The fact I townread Adel coming back to this push on him from Slaxx really bad, the post I forgot to quote is him saying he scumreads Adel for Adel saying ‘did you claim scum the worst?’ That post may look bad yeah, but I don’t see why scum Adel even posts that. It feels like a really easy scumread to make and a push I can see Slax going for.

In post 189, Slaxx wrote:

In post 182, Dunnstral wrote:People jumping on fb already are probably scummy

I haven't read anything yet

Why even say that if you haven't read? Why not let it naturally progress instead of trying stifling it while you catchup?

In post 191, Slaxx wrote:Actually I really don't like Dunn's entrance as it processes.

The timing of these posts on dunn just strikes me as off. Feels like a way to discredit, not really trying to solve, but trying to stop reads.

In post 220, Slaxx wrote:

In post 217, Allomancer wrote:

In post 215, Slaxx wrote:

In post 213, Allomancer wrote:Ank and Urist are null
Dunn is town

Why is Dunn town?

Good analysis, seems towny. Don't worry yourself, this is early on, reads can and will change.

...He had like four posts

Why does post count matter when it comes to a read? I don’t think it does at all. Seems like another reason for trying to stop reads.

In post 237, Slaxx wrote:

In post 235, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 189, Slaxx wrote:

In post 182, Dunnstral wrote:People jumping on fb already are probably scummy

I haven't read anything yet

Why even say that if you haven't read? Why not let it naturally progress instead of trying stifling it while you catchup?

Because he's lynchbait

Read the past dance games

Being lynchbait doesn't make you immune to scumreads

My fucking god I might as well make it my sig.

Prob the only post of Slaxx I agree and call towny.

In post 279, Slaxx wrote:Okay

Allo and I agree on Krazy

Before this post he made comments on Allo being scummy/maybe scum. So if that’s true, you and your scumreading agreeing on a read doesn’t make you pause.

In post 289, Slaxx wrote:

In post 287, Dunnstral wrote:Gut read I think Adel is town

>_______________>

The people Slax scumreads right here. One of them (Dunn) calls the other town. (Adel) What makes me pause here is Slax does nothing about it. Not a call out, no questions why, nothing. I would expect Slax to call this out as town or at least question it. All we get is ‘>_>’

In post 654, Slaxx wrote:(Nancy Drew, The Worst)
(Ank, Clem)
(Allo, Celica, Alisae, FB, Jib, McQ)
(Dunn, PB, PVT)
(Krazy, Adel)

I think is where I’m at. Middle it’s rough, top two and bottom two I’m relatively confident in.

This is further shown by his reads list. So yeah this is why I sr him

*deep breathe*

Okay allo, you are going to have to be patient with me cause I am going to be as patient as possible with you.
I don't understand you at all, and I am going to try to understand you better. That means I am going to mess up a lot, and I am annoyed at things that are difficult to understand especially when they won't work with me. So we shall try this.

You have me as your biggest scumread. Can we go through that...development...for lack of a better word to talk about what got you to that, what has reinforced/weaken that so that we all understand why I am scum?

Would appreciate it.

Your annoyed friend,
Firebringer

i'm just happy to be here

I am happy u are here too clemency. you are a fun dude to play with

hi Clemency
are you town?

wait lemme check

we all know clemency is third party

yeah i'm town

pinkie promise?