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Also egduf and hectic while you had some reason for scumreading me earlier (I was p much just shitposting and not taking the game seriously) I’m efforting now so can you get your votes off me and onto icon ASAP pls and thank

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VOTE: Iconeum

Not as confident in this as I'd like to be but the transition from being sure Hectic is scum to not being sure didn't make sense to me. Reasons given for leaving felt like tactical considerations to avoid being stranded and killed rather than a genuine change of heart. Not feeling as good about this as before but something just isn't right here.

Gandalf get your head out of your ass, egduf isn’t scum here and unless you’re gonna case her your vote isn’t gonna help there bc you’re not getting her through

In post 774, Menalque wrote:

In post 644, Tet wrote:Menalque are you a late game or early game player? And can this be corroborated through meta?

Why did you ask me this given who you are?

I...don't know you or your playstyle. We haven't finished a game together.

I did ask for a reason that was probably timing related but can't remember it right now.

I think I was deciding if I was shooting you or not.

And your conclusion?

Idk I just figured you would have a stronger read on me more easily

I'm insanely bad at reading Ico and was prepared to ignore him completely but A.) I agree Hectics "he can only be scum if he's scum with me, I'll leanscuk on him" is at best bad, but more likely cheeky scum. Don't recall who it was in reference to. If it was Gandalf then all the better because I'd shoot him too.

And B.) Highly more likely town latches onto what they deem as a slip regardless of how weak.

And Thirdly.) I think he's on the mark with Gandalf. Even flipflopping town has clear intention behind their read trajectory because they are starting with an uninformed baseline, naturally they will trust their reads above anyone elses. Unless I suspect a hard pocket, if I'm mind melding with another player on my scumreads I'm probably consciously or subconsciously going to view that as a town mindset. I know I'm town and they are thinking along the same lines as myself.

Whereas scums baseline is that every person not in their pt is town and they have to push town regardless. You're, for the most part, fabricating every read you have. No offense to anyone here but I think two players here at most have the ability to fake town trajectories as scum and one of them probably bleeds scum elsewhere in their play anyways.

In post 780, Menalque wrote:And your conclusion?

You've dodged my bullet for today.

Menalque's looking better after his last few . Nothing's changed on Ehjdu, and I like Icon now after my interactions with him, and him reconsidering his read on me.

In post 400, Tet wrote:Menalque, Oversoul, Delta, serene, the Potter guy all town. I guess gandalf but that's more of a townreads townread consensus. Carl can be Fringe town.

The rest of you are getting mowed down.

In post 760, Tet wrote:VOTE: Gandalf

What changed between these two posts? I don't see you mention between the two of them.

In post 781, Menalque wrote:Idk I just figured you would have a stronger read on me more easily

Based on what exactly? I'm not meta diving if I don't have to. So any meta reading would be predicated on games we've finished together. Which amounts to zero.

And Menalque, why did you change your read on Eghfu then?

Okay tet, humour me: in what way was hectic’s thing actually a scumslip

This is honestly the thing that’s mostly put me on the ico!scum side of all this, because I don’t see how that’s not an intentional #badtake on the whole thing

It was initially on MS

Can’t remember who the second one was about

In post 786, Hectic wrote:And Menalque, why did you change your read on Eghfu then?

Did you miss the bit where I reread this

I changed bc I was kinda gutreading that, couple of weak pings, and shitposting

Also I missed a bit where she didn’t ignore me and her explanation for why she was ignoring the push I was making on her is exactly the same logic why I ignore bad pushes on me as town

I think Gandalf is scum’s designated mislynch as it looks like hectic won’t happen and they know they can’t get me

In post 784, Hectic wrote:Menalque's looking better after his last few

posts

. Nothing's changed on Ehjdu, and I

kinda

like Icon now after my interactions with him, and him reconsidering his read on me.

In post 400, Tet wrote:Menalque, Oversoul, Delta, serene, the Potter guy all town. I guess gandalf but that's more of a townreads townread consensus. Carl can be Fringe town.

The rest of you are getting mowed down.

In post 760, Tet wrote:VOTE: Gandalf

What changed between these two posts? I don't see you mention

Gandalf

between the two of them.

I liked Icos stance on Gandalf a lot more than the superficial reasons everyone else has given for Gandalf being town and 754 reads as overly cautious of what other slots think of him and who he's townreading. Or just cautious about how he joins wagons, which reads scummy to me.

It could very well be eager newbie town trying not to misstep but outside of newbie queue I've stopped giving the benefit of the doubt in those cases.

If Gandalf is scum then I think we’ve v likely got oversoul!scum too

And I don’t think there’s basically any chance that egduf and hectic are different alignments

In post 787, Menalque wrote:Okay tet, humour me: in what way was hectic’s thing actually a scumslip

This is honestly the thing that’s mostly put me on the ico!scum side of all this, because I don’t see how that’s not an intentional #badtake on the whole thing

It was initially on MS

Can’t remember who the second one was about

I don't really know what the deal with the first one is, I checked out with the wall posts since I've got a gun and I don't really see this as a dayplay heavy setup.

But if I were to say Menalque is only scum if I'm scum. I think Menalque is probably scum though. That implies I'm scum... Directly.

The alternative is that it's a read I completely made up and serves no purpose. Ha. Jokes.

In post 791, Menalque wrote:If Gandalf is scum then I think we’ve v likely got oversoul!scum too

And I don’t think there’s basically any chance that egduf and hectic are different alignments

Based on? I like edguf for town but it's possibly because I've just disliked the pushes on them and not their play itself.

Delta townread is also slipping. I only remember their setup discussion. If I missed anything non setup related sorry, I'm willing to look over it again with a nudge.

In post 789, Menalque wrote:I think Gandalf is scum’s designated mislynch as it looks like hectic won’t happen and they know they can’t get me

Not if I shoot him first so.

I’m mostly basing oversoul!scum with Gandalf!scum on the way he talked me out of Gandalf!scum when I was wondering about that early day

There was some delta stuff late game that was townie, I’ll get on my laptop and find it in my SoC soon

Not scum but also not trying so it might be a good idea to Strand and shoot me

I have literally 0 grasp on this game and it’s bad