Micro 909: 09:12 (Game Over!)

[the worst]

Incidentally it’s a similar reason why I’ve reconsidered you, or at least out you on the backburner, bc I think I do believe that scum!you probably just lolhammers chem there, assuming my read on him is right

.....this is why you're townreading me now?

[Menalque]

I wouldn’t say I townread you exactly

Idk you’re in the spot where you’re putting out a lot of content and seem engaged and I think that’s more likely to come from town you but my concerns haven’t entirely evaporated

However should chem get hammered and flip town then I think I would probably be townreading you

[the worst]

VOTE: chemist
If this reds, Mena/me is a 1v1 tomorrow until I say otherwise.
If it greens just remember Aaron is town. Aldus is town. Uncrowned and HH are likely town. LAMIST also kinda slightly townish.

[Menalque]

770 is pretty situational stuff and frankly more projection than I'm interested in applying day one. You're bending yourself into a pretzel to townread Chem but I'm finding many of your other reads lacking in nuance. Why?

What is the projection?

And idk what you mean by my reads are lacking in nuance

[Menalque]

If this reds then yeah probably

[the worst]

I wouldn’t say I townread you exactly

Idk you’re in the spot where you’re putting out a lot of content and seem engaged and I think that’s more likely to come from town you but my concerns haven’t entirely evaporated

However should chem get hammered and flip town then I think I would probably be townreading you

I don't have a grip of who your scumreads are in this world dude

[Menalque]

If it reds then I think the right solution is probably lynch both of us and figure it out from there

[Menalque]

In fact probably just lynch you, me, and uncrowned and that should be GG

[the worst]

lynch you/emps and it should be gg

[Menalque]

I wouldn’t say I townread you exactly

Idk you’re in the spot where you’re putting out a lot of content and seem engaged and I think that’s more likely to come from town you but my concerns haven’t entirely evaporated

However should chem get hammered and flip town then I think I would probably be townreading you

I don't have a grip of who your scumreads are in this world dude

Yeah that’s bc my SRs have been moving around a lot and my strongest SR talked me out of it

Why is this making you have big concerns?

I don’t think you’ve played with disengaged!me before?

[Menalque]

lynch you/emps and it should be gg

Why are you trying to avoid being lynched in the case of a red flip?

[Menalque]

And why exactly have you flipped your read on me from nowhere

[the worst]

I wouldn’t say I townread you exactly

Idk you’re in the spot where you’re putting out a lot of content and seem engaged and I think that’s more likely to come from town you but my concerns haven’t entirely evaporated

However should chem get hammered and flip town then I think I would probably be townreading you

I don't have a grip of who your scumreads are in this world dude

Yeah that’s bc my SRs have been moving around a lot and my strongest SR talked me out of it

Why is this making you have big concerns?

I don’t think you’ve played with disengaged!me before?

given you're disengaged you're going to extreme lengths to moonlogic town!chemist

that says quite a lot more about your alignment than chemist's unfortunately but this is out of character for your solving style.

[Menalque]

I think you just don’t know how I play mafia as well as you think you do

Or you’re just scum

[Menalque]

Why is it Moon logic?

[the worst]

lynch you/emps and it should be gg

Why are you trying to avoid being lynched in the case of a red flip?

can talk abt this later

And why exactly have you flipped your read on me from nowhere

because it's a crazy string diagram train of thought that's running off the rails

[Menalque]

I can’t really explain chem beyond I’ve played with him a bunch since I joined the site and while I don’t think he tends to visibly do much as either alignment I think there are subtle differences in his play and whether he’s actually trying to contribute when he’s around vs just trying to coast and skate by

Where exactly is the scum motivation for chem to call out his hardest defender (ie me) only to then completely shift on that as soon as I say I think he’s more town bc of it?

Okay, so potentially scum!chem going down anyway managed to set me for the mislynch tomorrow with a bad associative, I can live with that

But even in that scenario scum still has to get another mislynch in 5p and not get caught by 3p

It just doesn’t make sense to me as I think scum odds of winning in micros specifically go way up if they can avoid getting lynched D1 even if that’s not true across all games

What in either of these posts is “moonlogic”?

[the worst]

Where exactly is the scum motivation for chem to call out his hardest defender (ie me) only to then completely shift on that as soon as I say I think he’s more town bc of it?

Okay, so potentially scum!chem going down anyway managed to set me for the mislynch tomorrow with a bad associative, I can live with that

But even in that scenario scum still has to get another mislynch in 5p and not get caught by 3p

It just doesn’t make sense to me as I think scum odds of winning in micros specifically go way up if they can avoid getting lynched D1 even if that’s not true across all games

this is definitely moonlogic

[the worst]

oh
ok

the pertinent structure of your argument is "chemist is not planning a major endgame scum procedure ergo he must be town", while you're treating all other slots at comparatively surface level

[Menalque]

No it isn’t

Look I can just make assertive statements without explaining them too

[the worst]

it's just a fallacious argument which may be disingenuous, and seems uncharacteristic vs. the rest of your reads. :#

[the worst]

No it isn’t

Look I can just make assertive statements without explaining them too

YOU CAN TRY

[Menalque]

Well no, that’s not what I’m doing

I have gut vibes or whatever you want to call it that chem is town

Then looking back at his ISO and thinking about it I reached the conclusion that his behaviour doesn’t really make sense coming from scum

[Menalque]

I don’t think there’s anything abnormal about saying that scum lose micros far more if they don’t defend D1 and so you can potentially clear/catch based on who they were defending

[the worst]

how do you feel abt this setup?