Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 7:06 am
Ok, this I do not believe for a second. But I'll give you a pass for now.In post 773, Persivul wrote:Full disclosure: I was 1X. I withheld that yesterday to see if scum would target me N2.
Ok, this I do not believe for a second. But I'll give you a pass for now.In post 773, Persivul wrote:Full disclosure: I was 1X. I withheld that yesterday to see if scum would target me N2.
Pamda's role wouldn't be a false guilty for a Rolecop. Panda was Ascetic. A Rolecop would've returned "no result".In post 774, UnaBombaH wrote:Or can you give a meaning for Pandas role outside of providing a "false guilty"?
Color me green and call me a Kiwi.In post 776, Tanner wrote:Pamda's role wouldn't be a false guilty for a Rolecop. Panda was Ascetic. A Rolecop would've returned "no result".In post 774, UnaBombaH wrote:Or can you give a meaning for Pandas role outside of providing a "false guilty"?
^ This is backpedalling to avoid having to give future results and an "excuse" as to why Persivul will survive future nights. "Why would the scum target a one shot?"In post 773, Persivul wrote:VOTE: Prana
Town encryptor, but not neighbor or neighborizer, is really weird.
Full disclosure: I was 1X. I withheld that yesterday to see if scum would target me N2. Prana's setup attempt largely negated that. Still, scum probably don't have something obvious like strongman.
So... 3 anti-town roles, and a 1x shot town rolecop which would weaken town...?In post 774, UnaBombaH wrote:Not necessarily true..?In post 772, PranaDevil wrote:Panda was an encryptor, I have no clue what that means, does that mean we have a neighborizer on our hands, or another role that allows people to speak? Because without something to let Panda talk to someone, the role was utterly pointless...
Also, can't you see the potential "theme" taking shape in the game?
Immediately when I saw that Panda-flip I got a vibe like "townies you'd sort of want dead, but are still town"..
Miller, and potentially even double-Miller, and now an encryptor to potentially provide a false-guilty to the rolecop.
A 1x shot rolecop still leaves us hopelessly outmatched useless garbage.In post 774, UnaBombaH wrote:Like said, a "false guilty" for the assumed Rolecop. That flip makes me think that we really NEED to have a real cop somewhere too, or we are hopelessly outmatched by all this WIFOM-negative utility..In post 772, PranaDevil wrote:It also does not strike me inherently as an anti-town role. It wasn't there so the scum could talk, as Panda had to be in whatever chat it was.
You somewhat make sense here... but again, Why a 1x shot? It does nothing for town as a 1x shot... so I don't buy it.In post 774, UnaBombaH wrote:Interestingly I have it totally backwards.In post 772, PranaDevil wrote:This should also make everyone realise the rolecop is not required to be town. Anyone believing it just "because we have two millers" needs to step back and take a rethink.
I was absolutely paranoid and leaning towards it being a scum-gambit yesterday, but now believe it to be more likely true with that flip.
Or can you give a meaning for Pandas role outside of providing a "false guilty"?
Well... No. Panda wasn't in any PTs since she was a VT, and she couldn't be added into any PTs (by a Neighborizer if one exists) since she was Ascetic. She was basically a Named Townie, except a very shitty version of one.In post 780, mavsfan41 wrote:I’m a little confused about Panda’s flip. Their flip suggests Panda was in a day talk with others yes? And if that’s the case, do the people in that day talk thread know each other and are they confirmed town to each other? If that’s the case, where were they yesterday when Panda was racking up the votes and going to be lynched?!?!? Wtf?
very convenient to be a 1 shot.In post 773, Persivul wrote:VOTE: Prana
Town encryptor, but not neighbor or neighborizer, is really weird.
Full disclosure: I was 1X. I withheld that yesterday to see if scum would target me N2. Prana's setup attempt largely negated that. Still, scum probably don't have something obvious like strongman.
I'm sorry, for what reason do you townbin me upon Persi's RED flip?In post 785, UnaBombaH wrote:And on a red flip, I really want to townbin popopopo and Tanner.
It's actually more understandable considering what you just posted. Designer didn't want to give too many negatives to town. If millers both claim, rolecop naturally uses his shot to check the survivor, doesn't have a shot left to get a false guilty on the encryptor.In post 775, UnaBombaH wrote:Ok, this I do not believe for a second. But I'll give you a pass for now.In post 773, Persivul wrote:Full disclosure: I was 1X. I withheld that yesterday to see if scum would target me N2.
That's right, forgot about that part.In post 776, Tanner wrote:Pamda's role wouldn't be a false guilty for a Rolecop. Panda was Ascetic. A Rolecop would've returned "no result".In post 774, UnaBombaH wrote:Or can you give a meaning for Pandas role outside of providing a "false guilty"?
...In post 793, mavsfan41 wrote:@Persivul:who did you target last nightand what did you find out?
@Prana: your theory of Persivul makes sense. The only thing I wonder is why wouldPersivul claim he’s 1xunprovoked?
He targeted nobody, because he "targeted" you N1.In post 793, mavsfan41 wrote:@Persivul: who did you target last night and what did you find out?
If he wanted to prevent a doctor targeting him, YESTERDAY was the day to point that out, because last night would be when a doc would target him if they believed his claim, and thus we lose the IC. If he's town, scum could leave him alive knowing there's suspicion on him, which also means you aren't fully trusted. So IF he was town... not announcing it yesterday was very anti-town.In post 793, mavsfan41 wrote:@Prana: your theory of Persivul makes sense. The only thing I wonder is why would Persivul claim he’s 1x unprovoked? Seems like something that would IMMEDIATELY have people (like you yelling “bs!” and rightfully so). The only thing I could possibly see Perisvul claiming outright he’s a 1x now with a doctor presumably on him is that he wants the doctor targeting someone else trying to tell scum to target elsewhere cause they can’t kill him. With the IC’s death, I figure if there was a doctor, that Persivul was targeted by the doctor as that’s ONLY place a doctor would go other than Eve. That claim of a 1x from Persivul seems strange for him to outright claim with no pressure which in turn would open him up to people being suspicious of him with no real reward for scum!Persivul. It is also getting convenient for Perisvul.