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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 4:51 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 774, Hoctac wrote:it doesn't make any sense for two mafia to intentionally misinterpret the same thing, especially since it links them.
Think about that some more

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 4:52 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 773, shiki wrote:so the plan for scum!me would have been what? to say i would be here-ish through the deadline and then not be and hope noone noticed?
Admittedly this seems weak. It's more likely for bussing to have been taking place

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 4:54 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 773, shiki wrote:
In post 767, Dunnstral wrote:There's plenty of reasons, implying it can only be because of ic shenanigans is silly. Killing two different colors was always a viable option as well
it isn't only because of ic shenanigans but it leaves that option open, and in retrospect it seems the most likely reason to me. at the time i thought mafia would want access to the lovers one as a backup plan in case one of them was lynched. the god one working as it did accomplishes the same thing.
I voted an attacker day 1 so mafia wouldn't have the lovers open as an option, though it was Elements who originally pointed that out

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 4:57 pm
by shiki
In post 777, Dunnstral wrote:I voted an attacker day 1 so mafia wouldn't have the lovers open as an option, though it was Elements who originally pointed that out
yes, and at the time i townread you for it as discussed here among others:
In post 539, shiki wrote:? i am saying that i think mafia, or at least dunnstral as mafia, would have wanted to kill the heart/sword if available to them. it would have given them the option to choose between killing another heart the next night if they were both still alive or killing a sword if one of them were lynched.
but there being another plan that accomplished the same thing cancels that out.

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 4:58 pm
by Dunnstral
Titus was scumreading George over Elements. If I voted for George, we would have lynched George.

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 4:59 pm
by Hoctac
In post 216, Dunnstral wrote:Let's see, I don't scumread pig, I'm not into the clidd wagon and get that Elena wants to talk to them.

Not sure we should lynch our bodyguard here, either - it's a useful role if town, more useful than one might expect because it can change the bonus town gets. My read on Elements himself is null.... he hasn't really done anything

is a suspicious post, IMO. That reminds me, why was your reason for not wanting Pigman to have the bodyguard?
In post 228, Elena Fisher wrote:Dunnstrals excuse for not voting Elements is noteworthy if Elements flips scum.
hmM

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 4:59 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 772, Hoctac wrote:The point is she said earlier that she would be here-ish which tells scum!you that a lynch can probably be achieved without your help.
That's @this

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:00 pm
by Hoctac
In post 779, Dunnstral wrote:Titus was scumreading George over Elements. If I voted for George, we would have lynched George.
Since when has 2=4, Dunny?

shiki, George, and I were for Ele. We'd just need Titus to compromise (which of course she would over a no-lynch) or Pigman to show up at any point.

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:00 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 772, Hoctac wrote:Pedit: How? I set two nicknames for DoctorPepper that started with "Doctor". How does Pigman asking about "DoctorPepper" have anything to do with those nicknames?
In post 279, Hoctac wrote:
I have a proposal:


We can cover the whole list of nicknames if we ration it out between the whole playerlist - almost if this was planned all along. I have utmost confidence that we can pull this off if we work together on this.
Your allocations are listed below. I have included my own assignement, but please ignore that one; it is simply for my own reference and benefit. Similarly, you may ignore the sections for any names that are not yours. Once you have found your own name, and the two
Doctar
names below them, please proceed to the bottom of this post for further instructions.

Hoctac:
  • DoctarMiranda
  • DoctarPepsi
Dunnstral:
  • DoctarCoke
  • DoctarFanta
Elements:
  • Doctar7up
  • DoctarVimto
Elena:
  • DoctarManjoJuice
  • DoctarTango
Pigman:
  • DoctarRio
  • DoctarRubicon
clidd:
  • DoctarDew
  • DoctarLilt
Misty:
  • DoctarFrijj
  • DoctarYazoo
Titus:
  • DoctarCocio
  • DoctarDoctar



Hi! You made it. Okay, so please copy the template below and insert your Doctar names into the two [INSERT NAME HERE] sections, then feel free to post to the thread. I have faith in this town to pull this off.

Code: Select all

[b]I would like to assign [INSERT NAME HERE] and [INSERT NAME HERE] as nicknames for DoctarPepper.[/b]

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:01 pm
by Hoctac
Oh, Ele was voting George as well I guess. The question is if you think you could get anyone from the Ele wagon to switch. Hmm

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:02 pm
by Dunnstral
I wouldn't need anybody to switch. Just Titus. Read her iso, looking at her read on George

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:02 pm
by Hoctac
What a magnificent post. Still, what does that have anything to do with Pigman talking about "DoctorPepper"? I don't get it.

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:05 pm
by Hoctac
In post 517, Dunnstral wrote:Hi, I don't want to lynch Pigman, Shiki, or GeorgeBailey
You made this post back start of day when Ele has no votes though. You'd look real bad if you voted George suddenly with no progression.

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:07 pm
by Dunnstral
Let me lay this out:

If I'm mafia, I can get georgebailey lynched, and then nightkill Hoctac, and that always results beneficially

It either gets the wrong color situation, where only titus is cleared, or mafia get to choose between devil or god, and we know how that turns out.

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:07 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 787, Hoctac wrote:You'd look real bad if you voted George suddenly with no progression.
I had no progression on Elements; false dilemna

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:08 pm
by Dunnstral
If I'm scum and was planning this stuff in advance, I wouldn't have even made that post about townreading george

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:09 pm
by shiki
In post 788, Dunnstral wrote:If I'm mafia, I can get georgebailey lynched,
why did you wait until 45 minutes before the deadline to vote?

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:10 pm
by Dunnstral
I was doing other non-mafia things, and popped in before the deadline

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:11 pm
by Dunnstral
Also, I didn't know what I wanted. I compromised on Elements because I thought George was town

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:11 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 636, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2, Isis wrote:2. Lynching will also be compulsive but that's an "Isis is modding so town suffers" thing, not specific to this setup, I use mafia lynch not plurality lynch.
You may need to self vote George.
You guys understand why this is not a scummy post, right?

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:13 pm
by Hoctac
In post 405, Elements wrote:VOTE: shiki
This was a 3rd vote on shiki right after Pepper shaded and pushed her. He had no way of knowing whether Elena would agree or disagree and unvote her right after this so it's risky.

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:15 pm
by Hoctac
In post 794, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 636, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2, Isis wrote:2. Lynching will also be compulsive but that's an "Isis is modding so town suffers" thing, not specific to this setup, I use mafia lynch not plurality lynch.
You may need to self vote George.
You guys understand why this is not a scummy post, right?
I mean, sure. I'd argue the fact that George self-voting means he's town anyway, and honestly, he was by far the best nightkill for scum anyway, but it's not that important.

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:19 pm
by Hoctac
In post 789, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 787, Hoctac wrote:You'd look real bad if you voted George suddenly with no progression.
I had no progression on Elements; false dilemna
You stated a townread on George start of day. You didn't on Elements.

Anyway, this doesn't really help me. Let's move on from you defending yourself. I want you to say who you think is scum of us two and why. Look through the game and find reasons.

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:20 pm
by Hoctac
shiki, how have these recent interactions affected your read on the two of us?

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:22 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 788, Dunnstral wrote:Let me lay this out:

If I'm mafia, I can get georgebailey lynched, and then nightkill Hoctac, and that always results beneficially

It either gets the wrong color situation, where only titus is cleared, or mafia get to choose between devil or god, and we know how that turns out.
This applies for shiki as well