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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 6:43 am
by Jake The Wolfie
In post 764, acryon wrote: In post 735, jjh927 wrote:Ngl if I'm gonna be mislynched in another game, I'll be glad if it's this one
Not gonna fight this very hard
If you're town you should probably fight here.
Agreed with jjh that this feels odd. You know one of A and B are scum. B is saying A is conftown to them. So B has to be scum for you.
I haven't played a ton of role-madness, but it certainly doesn't
feel
right that a role like Jake's and Elsa's would both exist and be on the same side. And I also don't see jjh as scum here. As Porkens pointed out as well, I'm still not sure why as scum you would ever admit to stealing Elsa's results there.
Jake's play today is very odd to me. Maybe it wouldn't be so different even if he was telling the truth, but it rubs me the wrong way that he basically ignored me yesterday when I pushed him, presumably because he knew there wasn't time for anything to happen to him, but today he seems like he's fighting for his life. And this is such a strong fakeclaim for scum... If we believe him, then we have to follow his lead through a possible two lynches, so as scum he is guaranteeing
two
mislynches.
Isn't the optimal play here for us to lynch Jake? If Jake is lying and we follow him, we risk two mislynches. If he is telling the truth and we lynch him, then he is the only mislynch, because jjh is confscum.
You have to choose between whether I am lying or telling the truth. However, lynching me is never the play here, as if yiu are wrong and I am town, you lose one of the most powerful roles on the board right now.
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 6:47 am
by Socratés
VOTE: jjh927
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 6:48 am
by Socratés
Piggy robbed my quickhammer. Fie upon you!
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 7:00 am
by Elsa Jay
Socrates if jjh flips town I swear I'm skipping Jake and going for you next.
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 7:39 am
by jjh927
Oh interesting time to log in
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 7:40 am
by Socratés
Wouldn't matter. If I understand my role correctly, I think we'll be in mechanical auto once this night passes.
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 7:42 am
by jjh927
Oh well
Yeah it's multiball with scumkills on alternative nights.
Have fun with this shitfest of a game
Also, TSE didn't tell us what the town faction were called so that thing you caught jacksonvirgo with is pretty rock solid
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 7:47 am
by jjh927
Seriously though
Multiball
Also an antitown 3p with a godawful wincon
Also there is less than the bare minimum of info given out by the mod
Btw I actually had an activated double vote that I'd have used to quickhammer if you L-1ed Jake. Multiball means the two functional parity cops could potentially be scum. Have fun!
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 7:49 am
by jjh927
I don't wanna give you my reads because they might help you find my buddy
But I do wanna help you as much as possible because the sooner this game ends, the better it is for everyon
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 7:51 am
by jjh927
Anyone here that wants to talk about anything?
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:00 am
by jjh927
Where did you all go
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:04 am
by Porkens
Hey sup why did you claim?
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:09 am
by Socratés
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:10 am
by acryon
In post 775, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Isn't the optimal play here for us to lynch Jake? If Jake is lying and we follow him, we risk two mislynches. If he is telling the truth and we lynch him, then he is the only mislynch, because jjh is confscum.
You have to choose between whether I am lying or telling the truth. However, lynching me is never the play here, as if yiu are wrong and I am town, you lose one of the most powerful roles on the board right now.
I completely disagree. If determining whether you were telling the truth or lying was an easier task, then maybe, but it's basically impossible and all gut. So we can either follow strictly gut or some combination of gut and gameplay logic. I think sacrificing your PR if you're town is worth not having to lock into potentially the next 3 lynches. You're going to die eventually anyways. I'd rather guarantee scum in a maximum of 2 lynches vs. roll the dice on it being up to 3 before we get one.
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:16 am
by acryon
Ok or nevermind I guess you can ignore all that.
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:17 am
by acryon
In post 783, jjh927 wrote:I don't wanna give you my reads because they might help you find my buddy
But I do wanna help you as much as possible because the sooner this game ends, the better it is for everyon
Why would you admit to have taken Elsa's reads?
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:18 am
by jjh927
Because I got towncred for it, until the game turned out to have a totally random parity cop in the game that guiltied me with no player agency
I was telling the truth btw
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:23 am
by jjh927
I feel like my flavour has nothing to do with my role PM as well
I am Ojama King
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:26 am
by acryon
In post 792, jjh927 wrote:I feel like my flavour has nothing to do with my role PM as well
I am Ojama King
Fusion monster = your double vote?
His card ability feels like more of a Roleblock though I'll admit.
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:28 am
by jjh927
Ojama king is a fusion of 3 monsters though
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:29 am
by acryon
Oh, well never mind on that then I guess haha
I don't envy anyone having to try and come up for PRs for everyone based on their card request though, and try to keep it some semblance of balance at that.
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 9:04 am
by Elsa Jay
Man all the fusion monsters who could be blocked my ability fucking died, lol.
Oh, and scum probably attacked me, but because of my secondary effect of healing myself if the fusion succeeds I was fine.
Jjh, thanks for telling us a lie on your way out. Enjoy the afterlife.
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 9:07 am
by Elsa Jay
Jackson do me a solid and switch me with someone elsa. I'll solve this game with my next check.
Please and thank you. If I die you die next btw.
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 9:39 am
by Porkens
I’d say something but I don’t want to upset the carefully balanced wifom going o. Here
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:01 am
by Elsa Jay
Well considering you hammered scum, you might as Well brag about it before it closes.