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In post 775, Isis wrote:Klick why do you keep making scummy posts

In post 779, Galron wrote:Why is everyone voting for Hoopla if she isn't scummy?

In post 743, Isis wrote:

In post 717, Replacement for Sujimichi wrote: If you haven't already, could you elaborate on the last one, Isis? I would think your given logic would make Klick more likely scum than town.

The wagon on Klick wasn't heavily supported by cases and reasoning. I think scum would be less likely to get involved with a wagon that didn't look good.
The trend that Klick is pointing at similarly indicates that he's getting voted by townies on their B-game rather than townies on their A-Game which makes it less likely to be a winwagon than one full of townies on their A-game. Admittedly that's still going to be a better wagon than one full of scum, but it's hard to explain the frame of reference you're using as you go I guess - all wagons are more likely to be on town than scum and my "big picture take" is a bunch of townies that don't feel confident do a weak job rebutting that presumption.

In post 744, Isis wrote:

In post 727, Replacement for Sujimichi wrote:It also comes right after Gera suspects you - and for meta reasons no less.

bob is infamous for an omgus bias, unfortunately

In post 783, Replacement for Sujimichi wrote:

In post 744, Isis wrote:

In post 727, Replacement for Sujimichi wrote:It also comes right after Gera suspects you - and for meta reasons no less.

bob is infamous for an omgus bias, unfortunately

What reasons does he use normally when he OMGUSes? Is it simply a "I scumread you because you scumread me and you're wrong", or does he find other reasons to support that? The OMGUS itself is NAI if you're telling me he does it as either alignment, but the reasons he uses to support it may still be scum-indicative.

In post 786, Isis wrote:

In post 783, Replacement for Sujimichi wrote:

In post 744, Isis wrote:

In post 727, Replacement for Sujimichi wrote:It also comes right after Gera suspects you - and for meta reasons no less.

bob is infamous for an omgus bias, unfortunately

What reasons does he use normally when he OMGUSes? Is it simply a "I scumread you because you scumread me and you're wrong", or does he find other reasons to support that? The OMGUS itself is NAI if you're telling me he does it as either alignment, but the reasons he uses to support it may still be scum-indicative.

It's often pretty stretchy reasons and it does make him hard to read.

In post 787, bob3141 wrote:Day still has 7 days. We shouldnt be think of ending this day phase now.

In post 760, Galron wrote:

In post 740, Bellaphant wrote:@galron, your poat about the wagon feels like info, not analysis - who's jump on that wagon feels scummy/badly positioned?

Una's.

In post 790, UnaBombaH wrote:

In post 760, Galron wrote:

In post 740, Bellaphant wrote:@galron, your poat about the wagon feels like info, not analysis - who's jump on that wagon feels scummy/badly positioned?

Una's.

Wait a minute - based on what? You preflip associating?
I now have nasty feeling about this wagon with Galron dropping posts like this, and then joining the wagon anyway..

In post 621, bob3141 wrote:

In post 616, notscience wrote:That was a great catchup I truly feel like I know where you stand on the game bob

mostly from what ive seen. That una is whiteknighting. He is pushign a town read on me without realy explaining. Something scum do if they dont want to push a lynch but are not against it forming.

See how he keeps sayign i dont want bob, bob is a mislynch ect

But not once says a reason as to why he thinks that. Town come up with reasosn as they want to stop mislynches. Scum dont want to provide town with a reason not to vote that player. As thats against their wincon.




When i read his posts it just feels like im reading a newspaper.

In post 630, Hoopla wrote:as a quick observation: the rapid acceleration of my wagon (when the possibility of a hoopla-wagon was wafting through the air) should give the town a clue as to my alignment.

In post 632, Dunnstral wrote:Here are my sources:

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This is amidst you calling me town sporadically so it's pretty weird

In post 637, Hoopla wrote:this was an influential reason in why i powered and sat on the geraintm wagon as much as i did. he was a classic candidate of scum finding a vote acceptable enough to be unchallenged, then sitting on it without much reevaluation. it takes effort to be constantly reevaluating the gamestate as scum and to find convincing reasons for your opinions to change. this is why we see scum sit on hivemind-approved votes longer than town, as switching votes incurs the risk of receiving additional attention/critique of your play.

players like klick and notscience seem vote-hoppy-happy anyhow, so i don't extend the tell to capable, aware players like them, but i suspect this tell is meaningful for a player like geraintm and why i still suspect him.