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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:25 pm
by shellyc
Hi. So you read the SEs / people on the wagon as scum? I think the NS push on Bella is fine, I don't think Bella's ISO looks that good.

I am still reading the game. My inclined TRs are Bell and NS.

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:52 pm
by The Bulge
In post 754, Bell wrote:They have a statistically higher chance of guessing what roles are in the game
?

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:54 pm
by The Bulge
In post 766, notscience wrote:Also yeah given the kill I expect one if not both scum on the wagon
Walk me through this? I don't disagree but what does walter have to do with it?

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:56 pm
by notscience
There’s more people to hide in on the wagon. There’s less room to hide off it.

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:01 pm
by The Bulge
I'm seeing it now yea, with two green flips off the wagon.

What do you think of shelly's entrance?

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:03 pm
by notscience
Newbtown whose posts I can actually read

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:04 pm
by notscience
She also didn’t trip my super secret scumtell for newbies. So that’s a point in her favor

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:13 pm
by The Bulge
In post 780, notscience wrote:Newbtown whose posts I can actually read
it's refreshing isn't it


what ever happened to the andre wagon btw? (open q)

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:18 pm
by shellyc
Initial Impressions (I am not a scumhunting god; will revisit this)

Andresvmb - This slot is really scummy to me. They were the other wagon yesterday and IV was town. They were on the IV wagon. Their ISO doesn't look good at all.

Nash - Lurker. On IV wagon. This is a null leaning scum read - I really want 'em to talk more.

Bell - I am leaning town on this slot. They are open, flexible, engaging, and spontaneous. I liked that initial interaction with me. However, they were on the IV wagon...

Bellaphant - Were on the IV wagon, and voted late. I don't really have an idea on this slot. Null read, maybe a teensy scumlean

The Bulge - I am null on this lad. Been a little bit lurking, also under the radar for most of the game. I want a closer look, but I think they are leaning town.

notscience - They read me as newbtown. I see they are a competent player who has been protown, but I believe they might be able to fake it... Still, a townread.

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:18 pm
by shellyc
In post 781, notscience wrote:She also didn’t trip my super secret scumtell for newbies. So that’s a point in her favor
What is your secret scumtell by the way? This post makes me curious :)

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:21 pm
by Bell
In post 776, The Bulge wrote:
In post 754, Bell wrote:They have a statistically higher chance of guessing what roles are in the game
?
Mafia have one of three roles assigned to them. Based on what role they have they have a general idea of what the power roles are, for example, If mafia have a roleblocker there's a 2/3 chance that there's a tracker in the game.

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:24 pm
by The Bulge
I was more wondering if that was scumslip bait, a partnerslip, or just confbias

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:27 pm
by Bell
In otherwords, you disagree.
Do you have anything you'd like to share?

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:30 pm
by The Bulge
I think the our slot is more than likely town, yes.

nothing much off top although I am not entirely of sound mind atm

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:30 pm
by Bell
And why is his slot town?

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:33 pm
by Bell
Oh, that explains the scumslip, partnerslip, conf bias thing.
It didn't make sense to me because If I were scum I wouldn't know walter was a tracker until he just died right now. Unless he crumbed somewhere and would have thought Our was the tracker and nked him instead.

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:35 pm
by The Bulge
for all the senseless distracting shit he went on about, nothing really stood out to me? I didn't feel any kind of slip ups or weird detractions in his logic.

pedit yea no i think you're town the partnerslip was just logically one of 3 conclusions there

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:39 pm
by Bell
Okay.

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:41 pm
by shellyc
In post 785, Bell wrote:If mafia have a roleblocker there's a 2/3 chance that there's a tracker in the game.
To correct you, only one setup has Tracker in column A.

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:43 pm
by Bell
I got the role cop/role blocker confused. TeeHee.
Thanks.

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:18 pm
by Bellaphant
In a normal situation, that's fine ns, but we were elim-ing literally anyone as time was running out, and you were literally cheerleading the wagon?

Like, these feels really distanced and not actually related to what happened

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:41 pm
by shellyc
NS - Bella have this conflict. As I do not strongly townread any of them, I am wary of this interaction. This could well be scum theatre.

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:23 am
by Bellaphant
Im only in conflict because it's nonsense. Or refuge in audacity - I can't work out why ns is yelling 'se scum on the wagon': maybe it's true!

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:09 am
by shellyc
NS was on the wagon himself. NS, why are you using logic that scumreads yourself? That's weird

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:06 am
by notscience
Scum on the wagon is common logic.

I know I’m town and am townreading two others on the wagon, so naturally I want to look where I’m not townreading.

I don’t think this is a new concept at all and this confusion from bella is very interesting.

Bulge?

Also how did we not comment on me getting called newbtown lmao