Silent Star 2: Menagerie

[Isis]

i liked that i remembered pooky(the bear) and ydrasse had that lover PT, and the ydrasse was a bear, and pooky was in the gmae

[Kanna]

i liked that i remembered pooky(the bear) and ydrasse had that lover PT, and the ydrasse was a bear, and pooky was in the gmae

that's adorable!

[Kanna]

@drusilla; if you agreed we should consider pooky town for c2, then why did you go for plusjoyed instead of isis which was clearly what pooky wanted?

i'll try to dragon code Sometime before deadline but i'd also like to use gifs because they're fun

also i too was dumb and after opening the first spoiler, thought ydrasse was just happy to be a bear

if anyone wants to talk to me about isis that is not_isis so there can be some 3rd person perspective, i would be happy

ok goodnight!

[drusilla]

@drusilla; if you agreed we should consider pooky town for c2, then why did you go for plusjoyed instead of isis which was clearly what pooky wanted?

i didn't agree that we should consider pooky town, i thought that pooky had been eliminated and therefore either way any further information we could get from him would be super helpful. i went for plusjoyed because he seemed the most likely outside of pooky to be mafia to me.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I think if we get to another post restricted phase we should have a universal code. that will be fairly easy for everyone.

Every player will post their "key" in their first post:

1st Sound:

Yes - Agree

2nd Sound:

No - Disagree

3rd Sound

SR: Quoted Person for Quote

4th Sound

TR: Quoted Person for Quote

5th Sound:

Why? Explain? Elaborate?


Anything else we can add to this list that needs to be added?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

@drusilla; if you agreed we should consider pooky town for c2, then why did you go for plusjoyed instead of isis which was clearly what pooky wanted?

i didn't agree that we should consider pooky town, i thought that pooky had been eliminated and therefore either way any further information we could get from him would be super helpful. i went for plusjoyed because he seemed the most likely outside of pooky to be mafia to me.

I don't see why you would put all your eggs in one basket even if your base assumption was that I had already been eliminated when it was clear that I had not been eliminated - my alignment had not been flipped at that point in the game.


Even if the actual mechanic at play was double-elimination instead of a nomination system - I think you still operate on the basis of Pooky-Town in order to get at least one elimination right rather than trying to hit both mafia on the same move. I think it's un-natural to make the 2nd elimination assuming Pooky!Scum when more likely than not just on a probability basis you are wrong about me.

It felt like you were more trying to hold together a voting bloc and target the disenfranchised scattered voters outside of it rather than taking a look at who could be scum slipping on the wagon if you were wrong about Pooky and I don't think that's a natural state of mind.

[drusilla]

I don't see why you would put all your eggs in one basket even if your base assumption was that I had already been eliminated when it was clear that I had not been eliminated - my alignment had not been flipped at that point in the game.


Even if the actual mechanic at play was double-elimination instead of a nomination system - I think you still operate on the basis of Pooky-Town in order to get at least one elimination right rather than trying to hit both mafia on the same move. I think it's un-natural to make the 2nd elimination assuming Pooky!Scum when more likely than not just on a probability basis you are wrong about me.

It felt like you were more trying to hold together a voting bloc and target the disenfranchised scattered voters outside of it rather than taking a look at who could be scum slipping on the wagon if you were wrong about Pooky and I don't think that's a natural state of mind.

my eggs weren't all in one basket, plusjoyed made sense to me outside of scum!pooky as well, which i've already stated. either way information you'd provide at that point would be helpful. i tried to talk to you and you didn't try to talk to me after you were condemned, so. why should i sheep someone i think is the most likely mafia in the game? assuming you're town simply does not make sense to me.

[PlusJOYED]

I think if we get to another post restricted phase we should have a universal code. that will be fairly easy for everyone.

Every player will post their "key" in their first post:

1st Sound:

Yes - Agree

2nd Sound:

No - Disagree

3rd Sound

SR: Quoted Person for Quote

4th Sound

TR: Quoted Person for Quote

5th Sound:

Why? Explain? Elaborate?


Anything else we can add to this list that needs to be added?

i've suggested this and I've already posted mine

[drusilla]

I think if we get to another post restricted phase we should have a universal code. that will be fairly easy for everyone.

Every player will post their "key" in their first post:

1st Sound:

Yes - Agree

2nd Sound:

No - Disagree

3rd Sound

SR: Quoted Person for Quote

4th Sound

TR: Quoted Person for Quote

5th Sound:

Why? Explain? Elaborate?


Anything else we can add to this list that needs to be added?

i've suggested this and I've already posted mine

this is simply what people were already doing but many of you chose not to participate. you said earlier that you thought pooky was town. why?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

my eggs weren't all in one basket, plusjoyed made sense to me outside of scum!pooky as well, which i've already stated. either way information you'd provide at that point would be helpful. i tried to talk to you and you didn't try to talk to me after you were condemned, so. why should i sheep someone i think is the most likely mafia in the game? assuming you're town simply does not make sense to me.

I'm not saying to sheep me, I'm saying to try to find scum assuming I am town. they are two different things.

I also had no idea you were trying to talk to me, I thought you were quoting me in order to talk ABOUT me.

[drusilla]

I'm not saying to sheep me, I'm saying to try to find scum assuming I am town. they are two different things.

i was finding scum assuming that you were more likely than not to be mafia, because i felt you were more likely than not to be mafia.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

his is simply what people were already doing but many of you chose not to participate.

This is a really bad shade imo.

Many of us did not participate not out of some evil scum intent to hide our feelings.

We didn't participate because we don't have experience playing post restricted games and didn't know this was even an option.

incompetence is not alignment indicative and I find it really weird you keep pushing this non-participation line.

[drusilla]

We didn't participate because we don't have experience playing post restricted games and didn't know this was even an option.

i also have no experience playing a post restricted game. yet somehow i knew it was an option to attempt to communicate. hectic even said in the mod posts good luck communicating. i don't understand your lack of engagement then, and now you and plusjoyed are pitching what others were already doing as something to do going forward and it is frustrating.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i was finding scum assuming that you were more likely than not to be mafia, because i felt you were more likely than not to be mafia.

but my alignment had not been flipped at that point and according to your mindset I was already as good as dead, so why keep going along the Pooky is scum angle?

If I do indeed flip scum as you believe I would - then town is already very ahead for nailing scum on its first elim.

However if I flip town - and you also miss on the 2nd elim because I flipped town instead of scum, you are looking at a 6 player game(after mafia elim) which is close to lylo and you are in the hot-seat having driven 2 straight mis-elims and you could very easily get mis-elim'd for the loss at that point.

I can't understand how town!dru doesn't hedge her bets at all and even consider the pretty decent chance actually that she's wrong about Pooky.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i also have no experience playing a post restricted game. yet somehow i knew it was an option to attempt to communicate. hectic even said in the mod posts good luck communicating. i don't understand your lack of engagement then, and now you and plusjoyed are pitching what others were already doing as something to do going forward and it is frustrating.

I was trying to communicate. I was using gifs to do it.

I didn't think of setting up a code. You keep misconstruing this as somehow scum-indicative.

[drusilla]

but my alignment had not been flipped at that point and according to your mindset I was already as good as dead, so why keep going along the Pooky is scum angle?

If I do indeed flip scum as you believe I would - then town is already very ahead for nailing scum on its first elim.

However if I flip town - and you also miss on the 2nd elim because I flipped town instead of scum, you are looking at a 6 player game(after mafia elim) which is close to lylo and you are in the hot-seat having driven 2 straight mis-elims and you could very easily get mis-elim'd for the loss at that point.

I can't understand how town!dru doesn't hedge her bets at all and even consider the pretty decent chance actually that she's wrong about Pooky.

are you just ignoring everytime i say plusjoyed made sense to me outside of scum!pooky as well?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm not ignoring that. However it is clear that the main reason you were pushing him as Condemn2 was because you thought he was my scum-buddy - I asked you this originally and you said it would make sense for him to pick me I believe.

[drusilla]

I didn't think of setting up a code. You keep misconstruing this as somehow scum-indicative.

no i don't, i think coupled with your other behaviours it is scum indicative for you. i don't think it is scum indicative for taylor swift necessarily, seems null there.

[drusilla]

I'm not ignoring that. However it is clear that the main reason you were pushing him as Condemn2 was because you thought he was my scum-buddy - I asked you this originally and you said it would make sense for him to pick me I believe.

i said he made sense with you and also made sense outside of you. i was not pushing him clearly as your scum buddy, that isn't true. i thought he also made sense with ydrasse at the time.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

no i don't, i think coupled with your other behaviours it is scum indicative for you

Can you be specific here?

[Loki Dokie]

ill townbin this

eh. i really dislike this kind of thing because i've seen a lot of players as mafia use it to manipulate. it's null at best i think.

I dislike that drusilla didn't just issue you a townread the way Pooky and I did.

It's a little of BoPish of me to do so though.

this sucks I think I might have gotten the scum in Dru/Isis wrong >.>

Dru referenced a comparible game where scum!Eve played similarly and you do realize here, don’t you that Isis mistakenly thought she was referring to me not plusJOYED. If you take that into account then why do you find that necessarily scummy?

[drusilla]

no i don't, i think coupled with your other behaviours it is scum indicative for you

Can you be specific here?

it seemed to me like scum!pooky saw someone working towards solving the game and attempted to befriend them without participating in the solving of the game.

the person you were interacting with was already developing the framework. you didn't need to wholly invent it it was already being done by someone else and instead of participating in that you random gifs.

make friends make no effort to solve the game make it seem like you care about the game being solved.

because ydrasse was trying to communicate about the game or at least to develop a framework for us to communicate about the game within and you were just gif posting. and then you were like 'look we need to reach a consensus!' when you could have been working toward that goal. that's like what scum do.

well it was the being pockety/buddying and then suddenly caring about the elimination.

like if you're town you'd help develop a consensus. i think mafia would be far more likely to say, hey look we need to do this. instead of doing it.

ok can you explain why that is? What was there to communicate about that I didn't do?

who to vote for? for instance. if you care about the lack of consensus votes helping to develop a consensus seems the correct course of action. do you not think anyone was trying to communicate about the game?

[Loki Dokie]

ill townbin this

eh. i really dislike this kind of thing because i've seen a lot of players as mafia use it to manipulate. it's null at best i think.

I dislike that drusilla didn't just issue you a townread the way Pooky and I did.

It's a little of BoPish of me to do so though.

this sucks I think I might have gotten the scum in Dru/Isis wrong >.>

Dru referenced a comparible game where scum!Eve played similarly and you do realize here, don’t you that Isis mistakenly thought she was referring to me not plusJOYED. If you take that into account then why do you find that necessarily scummy?

I should have asked you if this is your current assessment of this series of posts, because I mistakenly took it out of order.

[Loki Dokie]

so in day 1.1 we selected pooky but then we also selected me (there was one vote on me and then the phase ended). afaik nothing happened to me. does anyone have an explanation for what happened there?

taylor swift was helpful to town in a recent marathon game.

I’m curious to know what her current reads are, because so far she hasn’t really given any yet.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i said he made sense with you and also made sense outside of you. i was not pushing him clearly as your scum buddy, that isn't true.

I went back and re-read what you said about plusJOYED:

this was your first reply.

can you please explain why you wanted to put PlusJOYED as the 2nd condemnation?

plusjoyed made sense in various worlds to me and their play individually seemed the scummiest out of the non-you players to me, and isis who i was townreading voted there. would you have chosen plusjoyed? somewhat unlikely. would plusjoyed have chosen you? quite possibly.

It seems to me specifically you were thinking about him in the frame of reference as my mafia friend - since you are talking about him picking me.