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In post 389, Iconeum wrote:

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In post 222, TheGoldenParadox wrote:it's been five hours. how do we already have nine pages? Discussion so far seems pretty spammy and unhelpful, so let's VOTE: noraa because they're giving me quite scummy vibes.

In post 227, TheGoldenParadox wrote:

In post 67, Noraa wrote:So far BM's the scummiest person here. I see his SR on me as trying to set up some easy limbait since I hear I tend to give off that first impression. Ofc we are still technically kinda in rvs so this is a fairly weak read but ye I will be putting this here for future reference of what I was thinking 3 pages into the game. First impressions can often help town find the scums so I'm not too sure if I found one but we'll see

In post 166, Noraa wrote:I feel greatly bullied here btw
y'all tunnel hard
accuse me of using AtE if u wish. In a way it is asking u to stop tunneling this hard

In post 181, Noraa wrote:

In post 180, Menalque wrote:

In post 154, Noraa wrote:The reason is that town is going to let the other scums do whatever tf they want.

Why is this a bad thing tho, we still get a scum for the trouble and we can worry about sorting the others later if this is TvS

my point is that we also need to be keeping an eye out for the other scums. I, for one want a BM lim today since I am literally so certain those aggressive pushes dont come from town. But I think while we are doing this, we should be keeping an eye out for the other scums.

to elaborate a bit on my read - nora right now is doing exactly to bm what they are accusing bm of doing to others. the hypocrisy is not lost. i don't see nora vs bm as TvT but right now I'm null on BM and scumreading nora, and i absolutely think this could be an SvS bussing episode.
i'm slightly confused as to why town would be this confident in a read that they have developed in the first few hours of the game? if you're THIS confident that BM is scum, then simply voting them and removing them (without "keeping an eye out" for the other scum) would give town a massive leg up. i'm looking at nora as potential scum, and i'm looking at BM as a potential scumpartner. piisirrational is looking pretty good to me right now, although i will acknowledge that i am biased towards analyzers/gamesolvers so i'm putting him as a null, maybe a slight townlean. although menalque is kinda annoying me with their posting frequency, i'm townleaning them because they seem at least a little bit genuine about trying to read the BM/Nora bandwagon. no one else has enough substance to be read right now.

to respond to #224 - no it didn't; most players haven't posted anything substantial yet.

the first quote is GP's opening, which is a complaint about activity being unhelpfull, despite him getting a scumread out of it. Not normal towniel logic. Not to mention hopping on what seems to be the popular opening wagon with reasons best described as... not there.

Second quote is a fencesit where GP explicitely doesn't town v townread the fight, picks noraa as the scum in between the 2, but lets open a door where he can scumread either of them, even in a team. There is not a single word of logic behind this thinking nor an explanation.

This furthers my belief that noraa v bm is in fact town v town
and GP's position is a scum opening that i've seen quite a bit recently.

In post 780, Iconeum wrote:i have no problem switching to choochoo noraaa tho

In post 782, Datisi wrote:

In post 780, Iconeum wrote:i have no problem switching to choochoo noraaa tho

careful there ico, your opportunism is showing

wanna talk about the shelly townread?

and i have a vague idea of where people are in the triangle but reads on some of the slots won't be well defined

also iso diving is effort

i can start making one in like idk an hour if you want

In post 781, Iconeum wrote:is it too soon to ask for a reads triangle?

In post 784, Alonzo wrote:

In post 781, Iconeum wrote:is it too soon to ask for a reads triangle?

A what now?

In post 788, Alonzo wrote:Who knows what about Bob?

Anyone played against him before?

In post 649, Alonzo wrote:Bob what's your read on Alonzo?

In post 682, teacher wrote:

In post 648, bob3141 wrote:And since i'm leaning toward Noraa being town on balance I think golden is likely town if i'm right on nora.

I see your explanation for this, and I agree on principle with the 4th vote logic. I just dont buy the part that has it depending on Noraa's alignment. Maybe its just personal history with the early lol-wagon, but I find the later lol-wagon votes to be townie, regardless of the target's alignment. Scum dont want that kind of attention.

In post 681, teacher wrote:

In post 569, bob3141 wrote:Taylor-directed post

I dont really like this post and line of thought at someone who hasnt been here, I dont think? Like obviously she hasnt thought about her vote/whether or not it is still RVS/the wagon comp, ya? So why is the tone of this seemingly attacking rather than "so what do you make of that"?

In post 794, bob3141 wrote:

In post 649, Alonzo wrote:Bob what's your read on Alonzo?

Alonzo at the moment your still largely null to me as ive not seen much from you.

The vast majority of your posts have been directed at noraa. A player you have claimed to have had a town read. Which is read i agree with. Although I disagree with your stance on bm as it just feels like town bm. As it just feels like he is feeling confident after having all his reads in his last few town games be bang on.


Apart from that you all you seem to have done is say you think menal scummy but not why. Be a bit toxic to golden. Where you called him noob so im assuming you think he is town.