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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:56 am
by Isis
VOTE: Bell I maybe shouldn't vanity wagon in a 20p lol

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:57 am
by Isis
eh the thing I dislike about wagoning Bell is that his slot looks so different is Noraa is green and we don't find that out until after this set

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:57 am
by UNOwen
In post 760, Isis wrote: I don't think I've ever mentioned it before.
I also knew LLD would not consider it valid no matter her role, and when you feel something is invalid you skew even more towards, just do the thing that one weird person doesn't like,
the games that aren't rigged are easier to beat
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What does bolded mean?
In post 760, Isis wrote: I don't think you're solving, because the goalposts here should clearly be at "I believe Isis believes this" rather than "Isis is right to believe this", because "2 games isn't actually enough evidence" is a very good argument that in a disciplined scientific way it's flawed but it should be pretty obvious a human you don't know very well could be rather convinced from just a couple games.
VOTE: UNOWEN
That I think you are wrong to believe it is a separate question to whether I believe you believe it.

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:58 am
by Bell
In post 775, Isis wrote:VOTE: Bell I maybe shouldn't vanity wagon in a 20p lol
Am I ever going to vote you first isis.
Or is this always going to be a you vote me I vote you thing.

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:58 am
by shellyc
VOTE: bell

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:58 am
by Zdenek
In post 709, Isis wrote:The post reads like he didn't internalize how townish . . .
That is not what I meant. There was enough content from Bell that felt I should be able to start getting a picture of his mindset, something that I could relate to, but I got nothing.

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:59 am
by shellyc
just realised i never voted here

isis is actually pretty town
the gambit is just weird as fuck scum move

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 1:00 am
by shellyc
In post 773, MURDERCAT wrote:Kinda agree with bell tbh
no you're wrong

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 1:00 am
by Isis
Do you believe I believe it, yet? Do you still scumread me?

The bolded was a metaphor saying that playerslots that will read you for more reasonable or rational bases are better to focus on. It's more likely there's a path to getting townread that you can find easier than random guessing

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 1:00 am
by Bell
In post 776, Isis wrote:eh the thing I dislike about wagoning Bell is that his slot looks so different is Noraa is green and we don't find that out until after this set
Yeah, i’m not particularly sure why you’re trying to derail the noraa wagon.
Maybe you should talk to Noraa about her reads and negotiate instead of trying to save LLD if noraa’s Scum here. 1 for 1 scum is a badge of honor.

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 1:00 am
by MURDERCAT
In post 408, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:LLD is basically confirmed town to me
This is basically true if Noraa flips scum, LLD can't bus this hard and live

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 1:01 am
by shellyc
In post 783, Isis wrote:Do you believe I believe it, yet? Do you still scumread me?
the fact that you're willing to consider my case on scum!bell and proactively make reads is ++townpoints
i don't SR you aorn

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 1:01 am
by Bell
In post 780, Zdenek wrote:
In post 709, Isis wrote:The post reads like he didn't internalize how townish . . .
That is not what I meant. There was enough content from Bell that felt I should be able to start getting a picture of his mindset, something that I could relate to, but I got nothing.
That’s pretty funny rider.

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 1:02 am
by shellyc
In post 784, Bell wrote:Yeah, i’m not particularly sure why you’re trying to derail the noraa wagon.
there are enough votes on noraa already, and if someone accidentally hammers we just lose today

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 1:02 am
by Isis
In post 786, shellyc wrote:
In post 783, Isis wrote:Do you believe I believe it, yet? Do you still scumread me?
the fact that you're willing to consider my case on scum!bell and proactively make reads is ++townpoints
i don't SR you aorn
I was addressing UNOWEN

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 1:02 am
by UNOwen
In post 768, shellyc wrote:
hectic is a rather boring mod
don't modkill me

an investigative mindset leans town though, it's not making something out of nothing, it's quite clearly a solving mindset
Right but if Noraa is correct that she did not mention setup in discord, does that make her more likely to be town?
It doesn't seem like a useful line of inquiry, because I already presumed she had not mentioned setup.

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 1:03 am
by Isis
People need to unvote noraa so she can be flip3

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 1:03 am
by Bell
In post 788, shellyc wrote:
In post 784, Bell wrote:Yeah, i’m not particularly sure why you’re trying to derail the noraa wagon.
there are enough votes on noraa already, and if someone accidentally hammers we just lose today
If i’m not the wagon why are you voting me at all.
This is why i’m so nonplussed.

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 1:03 am
by Bell
In post 791, Isis wrote:People need to unvote noraa so she can be flip3
Oh.

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 1:04 am
by Bell
In post 791, Isis wrote:People need to unvote noraa so she can be flip3
This is a very isisy mind set.

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 1:04 am
by shellyc
In post 790, UNOwen wrote:Right but if Noraa is correct that she did not mention setup in discord, does that make her more likely to be town?
It doesn't seem like a useful line of inquiry, because I already presumed she had not mentioned setup.
but I mean how would you know that confscu-I mean noraa is telling the truth

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 1:05 am
by Zdenek
In post 758, UNOwen wrote:@Zdenek - But what's it all about?
Laziness, and bolstering and attacking the wagon on Noraa in the same post.

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 1:05 am
by MURDERCAT
In post 416, Fidget wrote:town!Noraa might be unsure, feel bad, and hedgey on what the flip will be.
I have experienced strong claims from town Noraa

(I see there's a lot of pages still, did we flip her?)

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 1:06 am
by Bell
We have not.

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 1:08 am
by Isis
VOTE: Zdenek