Mafiascum.net

Sorry for my lack of contribution; work has been overwhelming.

If I need to be eliminated first, then so be it, but don't just snap-eliminate toMorrow. I don't want to lose this game because everyone feels we've got it in the bag.

For now, I'll go ahead and

VOTE: Harumi

and hope that I have time later tonight to actually review and contribute meaningfully.

Ah, yes, the classic "Vote Someone With No Explanation Whatsover", just as my internet pulls the "Nightkill My Productivity For An Entire Afternoon With No Explanation Whatsoever". Coincidence? I think not! fuhuhuhuhuhuhu

Anyways, Italiano I'd have to reread so as not to mix up my interactions with them in another game. Cantrip I'm really not liking now because of that post though.

"For no explanation whatsoever"

Both you and Marci defended Chosen D1; I feel like there's a solid chance that one of the two of you are his partner. I detailed my hot take in 602[/[post]. Marci's response in [post]625 would be pretty cheeky for scum to make, and, like I said, I've felt like her tone has been pure all game.

You, on the other hand, never even responded to my thoughts about you and Marci being scum, even when I called you out on it. Obviously I was wrong that the two of you were the team, but it certainly felt like you were avoiding me associating you with Chosen. Why no response?

Bollocks'd that up. :/

602

625

*hug*

I'm really enjoying and have enjoyed everyone in this game

Sorry probably random

I don't enjoy you krazy

I know you don't

you LOVE ME

ah shit you caught me
busted

In post 777, Cantripmancer wrote:Both you and Marci defended Chosen D1; I feel like there's a solid chance that one of the two of you are his partner. I detailed my hot take in 602[/[post]. Marci's response in [post]625 would be pretty cheeky for scum to make, and, like I said, I've felt like her tone has been pure all game.

They voted though. To me you refusing to use the one power you have as townie, which is your vote, and at the deadline, looks worse than them just not voting for Chosen because they still at least used their vote.

In post 779, Krazy wrote:*hug*

I'm really enjoying and have enjoyed everyone in this game

Sorry probably random

/barn

In post 783, ItalianoVD wrote:

In post 777, Cantripmancer wrote:Both you and Marci defended Chosen D1; I feel like there's a solid chance that one of the two of you are his partner. I detailed my hot take in 602[/[post]. Marci's response in [post]625 would be pretty cheeky for scum to make, and, like I said, I've felt like her tone has been pure all game.

They voted though. To me you refusing to use the one power you have as townie, which is your vote, and at the deadline, looks worse than them just not voting for Chosen because they still at least used their vote.

I can understand where you're coming from, but FWIW (self-meta, so yeah), being cautious with my vote outside of early D1 is pretty standard for me. Also:

In post 602, Cantripmancer wrote:Thanks for the reassurance, Krazy, but my homesite is structured around E-2 being the "hold yer horses" point, and I can't quite override that instinct. Too many experiences with rash hammers (from both alignments). Consider my vote on Chosen for the time being until we decide we want to move forward.

After that, I was either waiting on a claim or waiting on responses from Marci/Harumi before proceeding.

Yeah Cantrip I would say that your other-site-meta caution around E-2 is fine, the bigger concern is that we can see from the Kazyan vote that the scum were worried that given how the EoD played out it was too obvious that Chosen thought he was going to have some more time, so either the buddy was already bussing (possible but I can't point to who), or the buddy was off-wagon and wanted to give Chosen some time to make his 'claim gambit' of backpedaling to VT. This make your 'unvote with intention to hammer' the more concerning position because you were one of the slots Chosen could have counted on to 'give him some time' to play out the claim gambit backpedaling to VT. Basically I can see why people are concerned about your slot given EoD even though I feel like I've gone back and forth on your slot a lot between the two dayphases. I think it would help if you could map out how you conceptualize the strategy at this point as you see it for someone like Harumi or Marci from a scum POV, given Alisae seems to think Harumi isn't playing with an endgame in mind (a kind of variation on "too scummy to be scum" a sentiment I don't necessarily agree with but which is maybe worth considering)

@Marci @Cantrip @Harumi

Have any of you/all of you played scum on this site before?

In post 785, Krazy wrote:Yeah Cantrip I would say that your other-site-meta caution around E-2 is fine, the bigger concern is that we can see from the Kazyan vote that the scum were worried that given how the EoD played out it was too obvious that Chosen thought he was going to have some more time, so either the buddy was already bussing (possible but I can't point to who), or the buddy was off-wagon and wanted to give Chosen some time to make his 'claim gambit' of backpedaling to VT. This make your 'unvote with intention to hammer' the more concerning position because you were one of the slots Chosen could have counted on to 'give him some time' to play out the claim gambit backpedaling to VT. Basically I can see why people are concerned about your slot given EoD even though I feel like I've gone back and forth on your slot a lot between the two dayphases. I think it would help if you could map out how you conceptualize the strategy at this point as you see it for someone like Harumi or Marci from a scum POV, given Alisae seems to think Harumi isn't playing with an endgame in mind (a kind of variation on "too scummy to be scum" a sentiment I don't necessarily agree with but which is maybe worth considering)

I don't blame anyone being concerned about my slot; I just know the game doesn't end with my death, so I'd rather elim elsewhere. And I'm not seeing any agenda or strategy from Marci (that's part of why she comes off to me as pure). Harumi feels like they're slow rolling their opinions, refusing to respond to my questions (but obviously seeing my posts), and OMGUSing. I don't know that Harumi a strategy; if they see that they're in the PoE and the PoE is small enough to be entirely eliminated before they can control the vote, then that might explain them not seeming to be playing with an endgame in mind: they don't know what to do to achieve the win.

In post 786, ItalianoVD wrote:@Marci @Cantrip @Harumi

Have any of you/all of you played scum on this site before?

Nope, but you're welcome to my game history: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing if that'll help.

I definitely agree harumi has been gnomic with her pov and reads but today has been oddly kinda slow given where we're at, I was expecting a much more motivated town for today

Just realized that's not quite up-to-date, but I don't have time to update it right now. It should still give you plenty of points of reference.

@Krazy: I've been pretty frustrated with how my real life commitments have picked up suddenly, so the slower pace is somewhat welcome to me since I'd have a hard time keeping up with a frenzy. Pace isn't something I generally read too much into, knowing how easily my own is impacted.

In post 776, Harumi Ayasato wrote:Ah, yes, the classic "Vote Someone With No Explanation Whatsover", just as my internet pulls the "Nightkill My Productivity For An Entire Afternoon With No Explanation Whatsoever". Coincidence? I think not! fuhuhuhuhuhuhu

Anyways, Italiano I'd have to reread so as not to mix up my interactions with them in another game. Cantrip I'm really not liking now because of that post though.

Why didn’t you vote him then?

In post 787, Cantripmancer wrote:I don't know that Harumi has a strategy; if they see that they're in the PoE and the PoE is small enough to be entirely eliminated before they can control the vote, then that might explain them not seeming to be playing with an endgame in mind: they don't know what to do to achieve the win.

This is a good point. Are you able to go deeper into this? Don’t worry if you can’t.

In post 786, ItalianoVD wrote:@Marci @Cantrip @Harumi

Have any of you/all of you played scum on this site before?

I havent so far on this site.. all my tries have been vt

marci hit us with your list or whatnot?

list of what?

reads?

I would also accept a list of favorite anime, but yes I had meant reads

im in a pissy mood rn my brothers so annoying

Meuh - bad vibes
Cantripmancer - idk about him, i thought he seemed kinda townie imo, but u guys keep saying hes sus??
Harumi Ayasato - bad vibes
ItalianoVD (SE) - decent vibes, not the best tho
Alisae eth0s (SE) * - gud vibes
Krazy (SE) - decent vibes

Outside of Meuh's read of you, what gives you bad vibes from her?

You can put aside our reads of Cantrip; how do you feel about him?

Anything in particular make you feel like Italiano's vibes aren't the best?

Hope your brothers stop irritating you so much!

In post 789, Krazy wrote:I definitely agree harumi has been gnomic with her pov and reads but today has been oddly kinda slow given where we're at, I was expecting a much more motivated town for today

I'm a fucking idiot who doesn't know what "gnomic" means, please enlighten me.