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In post 773, Battle Mage wrote:

In post 770, RLotus wrote:The fact that the Italiano wagon hasn't built up despite the fact that it has been talked about ad nauseum might be an indicator that I'm on the right track. Alternatively, it could just be a product of the stalled gamestate.

i mean most of the talk is about how he's town, so would you really expect a wagon to build regardless of his alignment?

Most of the talk around him before you repped in has been things like, "I'm not really sure about him but I lean towards eliminating him"

In post 771, Reformed Toxic Player wrote:

In post 770, RLotus wrote:The fact that the Italiano wagon hasn't built up despite the fact that it has been talked about ad nauseum might be an indicator that I'm on the right track. Alternatively, it could just be a product of the stalled gamestate.

I think its a fact ur seeing red. Wanna walk through why you scumread them?
Being wrong is also a reason one might have a resisted wagon.

Yeah I can it will be long winded

In post 775, RLotus wrote:

In post 773, Battle Mage wrote:

In post 770, RLotus wrote:The fact that the Italiano wagon hasn't built up despite the fact that it has been talked about ad nauseum might be an indicator that I'm on the right track. Alternatively, it could just be a product of the stalled gamestate.

i mean most of the talk is about how he's town, so would you really expect a wagon to build regardless of his alignment?

Most of the talk around him before you repped in has been things like, "I'm not really sure about him but I lean towards eliminating him"

he had 3 votes on him though, which feels broadly commensurate with that level of suspicion.

In post 774, RLotus wrote:

In post 772, Reformed Toxic Player wrote:Do you townread GC btw -rllotus?

Slightly for his questioning and gamesolvyness

I thought this too at first but when i read closer into his iso i dont see a lot of conclusions drawn and its overall fluff - it does a good job APPEARING as such which is why i scumread them here.
Would you do me a favor and maybe reread GC iso and tell me what u think?

RLotus - a quicker ask - who is scum besides Italiano?

Wow, so many new posts.
UNVOTE: Dunnstral
I guess Lunar was voting here? Don't want this today.

I feel like a good portion of this table has at one point or another voted italiano
I just feel the thread vibes were against him at least.

In post 780, midwaybear wrote:Wow, so many new posts.
UNVOTE: Dunnstral
I guess Lunar was voting here? Don't want this today.

Hey i think votato was playing their town meta, so by proxy i tr u, would u mind looking at my incomplete trust falls and lmk what u think of my current conclusions?

In post 777, Battle Mage wrote:

In post 775, RLotus wrote:

In post 773, Battle Mage wrote:

In post 770, RLotus wrote:The fact that the Italiano wagon hasn't built up despite the fact that it has been talked about ad nauseum might be an indicator that I'm on the right track. Alternatively, it could just be a product of the stalled gamestate.

i mean most of the talk is about how he's town, so would you really expect a wagon to build regardless of his alignment?

Most of the talk around him before you repped in has been things like, "I'm not really sure about him but I lean towards eliminating him"

he had 3 votes on him though, which feels broadly commensurate with that level of suspicion.

My point was why are scum so shy on voting him when many are making it seem like they'd be willing to push him over, if he is town

Sure, I'll take a look at 696 right now.
Might be able to do a complete catchup later today.

In post 780, midwaybear wrote:Wow, so many new posts.
UNVOTE: Dunnstral
I guess Lunar was voting here? Don't want this today.

you really didn't remove Lunar's vote until now?

i'm gonna keep my eye on you, sunshine!

VOTE: midwaybear

I feel as though if i am right on elements/GC then datisi/vp contain last maf based on how quick they both reacted to my fos on those 2 - please sheep this if both elements and GC indeed flip scum.

Oh and BM was also weird around it. I forgot about them lol

In post 779, Battle Mage wrote:RLotus - a quicker ask - who is scum besides Italiano?

I've really got no clue past Italiano

In post 785, Battle Mage wrote:

In post 780, midwaybear wrote:Wow, so many new posts.
UNVOTE: Dunnstral
I guess Lunar was voting here? Don't want this today.

you really didn't remove Lunar's vote until now?

i'm gonna keep my eye on you, sunshine!

VOTE: midwaybear

RVS is long over. Midway is the towniest(imo) slot so far - so u have to do some good explaining for this

In post 783, RLotus wrote:

In post 777, Battle Mage wrote:

In post 775, RLotus wrote:

In post 773, Battle Mage wrote:

In post 770, RLotus wrote:The fact that the Italiano wagon hasn't built up despite the fact that it has been talked about ad nauseum might be an indicator that I'm on the right track. Alternatively, it could just be a product of the stalled gamestate.

i mean most of the talk is about how he's town, so would you really expect a wagon to build regardless of his alignment?

Most of the talk around him before you repped in has been things like, "I'm not really sure about him but I lean towards eliminating him"

he had 3 votes on him though, which feels broadly commensurate with that level of suspicion.

My point was why are scum so shy on voting him when many are making it seem like they'd be willing to push him over, if he is town

if he's town, perhaps he's limbait and scum don't feel the need to push it?

In post 789, Reformed Toxic Player wrote:

In post 785, Battle Mage wrote:

In post 780, midwaybear wrote:Wow, so many new posts.
UNVOTE: Dunnstral
I guess Lunar was voting here? Don't want this today.

you really didn't remove Lunar's vote until now?

i'm gonna keep my eye on you, sunshine!

VOTE: midwaybear

RVS is long over. Midway is the towniest(imo) slot so far - so u have to do some good explaining for this

i'd actually set the table for this earlier - why are you only raising this objection now? it's not a random vote, and I resent the suggestion.

In post 785, Battle Mage wrote:you really didn't remove Lunar's vote until now?

I saw that I was voting Dunn on the vc from this morning.

In post 787, Reformed Toxic Player wrote:Oh and BM was also weird around it. I forgot about them lol

please tell me more about this - specifically what was i weird around, and how?

Apologies for my absence, things got busy and I lost track of the days. I'll hopefully be able to complete my readthrough this evening as I have another long drive ahead of me as a passenger, but sadly I forgot my notebook at home.

Explain why u think midway is scummy.
The more you talk the less i think youre conversing in good faith

Im off break see yall later

In post 786, Reformed Toxic Player wrote:I feel as though if i am right on elements/GC then datisi/vp contain last maf based on how quick they both reacted to my fos on those 2 - please sheep this if both elements and GC indeed flip scum.

> writes a list with only describing positive things about players
> concludes 2 scumreads from that list
> "if i'm right, they're scum for reacting to my fos"

you're joking, right?

@RTP
Harumi
-I think the progression early on to vote Elements makes sense. 38 feels a bit like a setup though, and I don't understand why the gut reads is scummy from Elements.
-I actually think the push on Italiano is not great. 112 feels really wishy washy, and the reasoning is similarly noncommittal
- I will admit that the readlist does feel overall consistent with her method of scumhunting.
-idk about the uninformed vibe
I think I still want to see more from Harumi, but Harumi doesn't need to be an elim candidate for today

Green Crayons isn't readable to me yet. He is probably a good scum player, and definitely would be able to point out contradictions as either alignment. Him being defensive to being misrepped could easily just be scum defensive (if you're thinking of Duchess/GC).
Willing to work with others seems more like a personality trait than anything AI.

In post 795, Reformed Toxic Player wrote:Explain why u think midway is scummy.
The more you talk the less i think youre conversing in good faith

Im off break see yall later

When I ISO'd Lunar earlier I recall thinking their positioning was a bit haphazard, and there was one post by midwaybear which read really badly to me.

A couple Q's:

What do you see as Lunar Martian's town meta vs scum meta?
What about my posts is not "good faith"? Disagreeing with my read doesn't imply my read is bad faith - and you have seen I have many reads and they do evolve over time.

I also still want you to answer this:

In post 793, Battle Mage wrote:

In post 787, Reformed Toxic Player wrote:Oh and BM was also weird around it. I forgot about them lol

please tell me more about this - specifically what was i weird around, and how?

until you do satisfactorily, I'll VOTE: Reformed Toxic Player to give you an extra incentive