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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:54 am
by T3
wait
i just realized
VOTE: catboi
okay
so from the earlier pushes make me think vfp and luke are not scum together
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:07 am
by Pearofclubs
In post 765, Not_Mafia wrote: In post 763, Lukewarm wrote:Okay. This is my stance, because I don't know that I have been as clear as I could have been.
When I compared catboi and vfp, I am much more suspicious of catboi.
I feel like people some people have read my earlier post as saying "I think Meuh is scum" but that is not what I was trying to say.
My suspicions on Meuh and T3 are completely dependent on catboi flipping scum, because those are the two players I could see partnered with him. I do not have strong scum reads on either of them, but a flip on catboi would move them into the spot light for a hunt for his partner. If we don't flip catboi today, then I don't actually have a strong reason to be suspicious of either until that does actually happen.
My vote today has been for the person I am most suspicious of overall, and that is catboi. But it is starting to look like we are voting out VFP anyways. So looking towards how I can productively spend Night 2 after a VFP flip, I'm curious: if he flips green, who is everyone looking towards for tomorrow, and if he flips red, who you guys think he could be partnered with. (I know people are going to say me, but who else, because looking into VFPxMe interactions is not how I am going to spend my Night 2 if he flips red, I'll leave that to you guys.)
Major VFP-Lukewarm partner vibes here
I don't know...
How did Ink's behavior work as a potential partner for VFP?
If their goal was "one person pushes pear to find a doc/get a miselim", Lukewarm's behavior doesn't fit that goal.
If their goal was "we both push pear to find a doc/get a miselim", Ink3ro's behavior doesn't fit that goal.
It's certainly possible the plan changed a bit when Ink swapped out, but I find it hard to believe considering that the push on me had so little traction.
It's certainly worth looking into over the night, though. How did Sama/VFP - Ink/Luke and Catboi interact with each other? There's a lot of information to be found what with the replacements.
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:27 am
by T3
imk pushed sama m rrllier
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:57 am
by Pearofclubs
Just realized I'm still on Marci.
UNVOTE:
So I just did my own votecounting, feel free to double check but:
Catboi:
3 (VFP, T3, Lukewarm)
Lukewarm:
2 (Catboi, Not-Mafia)
VFP:
1 (marcistar)
Not Voting
2 (Meuh, Pearofclubs)
So we're really not actually that close to a hammer (A proper votecount would be appreciated)
I'm fine with going for Catboi today, I've already put forward that I'm thinking it's Catboi/VFP.
Just wanted everyone to know where we stand.
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 12:01 pm
by Not_Mafia
catboi is actually trying to solve, VFP and Lukewarm are just trying to move the elimination away from themselves
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 12:26 pm
by Pearofclubs
In post 779, Not_Mafia wrote:catboi is actually trying to solve, VFP and Lukewarm are just trying to move the elimination away from themselves
When you've narrowed it down to 3 players, 2 of whom are scum, isn't trying to solve the same thing as moving suspicion away from yourself? All three of them seem somewhat resigned to being eliminated.
What in particular makes you like Catboi here?
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 2:44 pm
by Meuh
rn in terms of how much i like elims i'm somewhere like: VFP > Lukewarm >> T3 > Catboi
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 2:55 pm
by T3
Here's myogic for this.
We have a pool of 3 people.
Lukewarm suggested eliminating VFP earlier for inactivity. Probably not something a brand newbie would do to their parter. That means they probably are not both scum. Now we look at the other scum slot. The only person this could possobly go to is catboi. So, he is confirmed mafia.
Does anyone disagree?
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 2:58 pm
by Meuh
In post 782, T3 wrote:Here's myogic for this.
We have a pool of 3 people.
Lukewarm suggested eliminating VFP earlier for inactivity. Probably not something a brand newbie would do to their parter. That means they probably are not both scum. Now we look at the other scum slot. The only person this could possobly go to is catboi. So, he is confirmed mafia.
Does anyone disagree?
We don't have a pool of 3 people?
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 3:19 pm
by T3
We have 4 confirmed town and me. There re 8 players total.
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 3:22 pm
by catboi
In post 767, Lukewarm wrote:
IF you say so. I am not sure in what world I would not have bussed him by now ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Bussing today is an automatic loss. Scum know this and are gunning for me instead.
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 3:24 pm
by catboi
In post 782, T3 wrote:Here's myogic for this.
We have a pool of 3 people.
Lukewarm suggested eliminating VFP earlier for inactivity. Probably not something a brand newbie would do to their parter. That means they probably are not both scum. Now we look at the other scum slot. The only person this could possobly go to is catboi. So, he is confirmed mafia.
Does anyone disagree?
Lukewarm never suggested eliminating VFP for inactivity? In fact, he's been attacking me allday? I don't know how you could realistically be looking at the game and conclude either is my partner when they've both been trying to get me voted out all day. Quote the posts where lukewarm went after VFP?
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 3:25 pm
by catboi
LOL
this vote count alone should spew me as town, if I was scum here I would be fucking SCREAMING at my partner to stop bussing me
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 3:27 pm
by catboi
Why's that lone vote more convincing than what's been going on all day? If I'm scum, who's my partner, T3?
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 3:31 pm
by catboi
In post 769, VFP wrote: In post 768, Lukewarm wrote:How is that math working? NotMafia, Marci, and Pear are full clear, there is an argument to be made that Meuh is clear, but that still leave me, you, catboi, and T3, no? So 50%.
T3 isn't flipping scum.
3 scum are in me, you, and Catboi.
You should be seeing me and Catboi as scum here.
The aggressive certainty here is baffling. What makes you THAT confident in T3-town?
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 3:40 pm
by catboi
VOTE: VFP
I think I'm back to vaguely town-leaning lukewarm's paranoia though I shouldn't be. T3 has sank in my estimation.
In post 202, Samawoodo wrote:Toriii low profile is kinda sus (and didn't answer the fact he is suspecting one of the stronger townie reads (from my poe as i said), dunno if is lack of reading, or just random pointing), but i cant talk too much about low profiles because my participation is just "enough" (being generous with myself)
This quote feels vaguely partner-y.
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 3:42 pm
by Meuh
T3 I can't see how Catboi could be partners with Lukewarm or VFP and since you've written me as confirmed town, I don't understand why you'd think Catboi is scum here
Bussing is unviable today like Catboi said, mafia has a tough road ahead if one of them goes out here
I don't see why we wouldn't be eliming Lukewarm or VFP here
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 3:43 pm
by T3
In post 785, catboi wrote: In post 767, Lukewarm wrote:
IF you say so. I am not sure in what world I would not have bussed him by now ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Bussing today is an automatic loss. Scum know this and are gunning for me instead.
Slip. Bussing today would only be an automatic loss if I'm town.
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 3:45 pm
by Meuh
In post 792, T3 wrote: In post 785, catboi wrote: In post 767, Lukewarm wrote:
IF you say so. I am not sure in what world I would not have bussed him by now ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Bussing today is an automatic loss. Scum know this and are gunning for me instead.
Slip. Bussing today would only be an automatic loss if I'm town.
what? where's the slip??? i'm genuinely confused
VOTE: VFP
Catboi elim is a bad idea
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 3:46 pm
by catboi
I don't know how to describe it exactly but T3 right now feels like he's trying to hustle with what he's pushing. Doesn't feel like someone who is genuinely looking for a team, he's pushing me off something very slight
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 3:47 pm
by T3
Wait, I'm going to think.
I don't see a brand new scum bussing their partner.
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 3:47 pm
by Meuh
T3's recent posts feel like they have an agenda
VFPxT3 would be my guess at this point
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 3:47 pm
by catboi
In post 792, T3 wrote: In post 785, catboi wrote: In post 767, Lukewarm wrote:
IF you say so. I am not sure in what world I would not have bussed him by now ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Bussing today is an automatic loss. Scum know this and are gunning for me instead.
Slip. Bussing today would only be an automatic loss if I'm town.
This isn't remotely close to a slip??
I want to vote you for this post alone.
With a scum elim today, the tracker gives either a confirmed guilty on the last mafia, or a confirmed innocent on the town, leaving two elims on the unclears. It's not a slip at all. Why are you trying to argue that it is?
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 3:50 pm
by T3
Oh, that makes sense.
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 3:51 pm
by T3
Like I just don't see VFP Luke scumteam.