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Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 5:33 am
by T3
VOTE: toogs
Ugh
idk

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 5:34 am
by Toogeloo
No action last night.

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 5:36 am
by skitter30
In post 771, Datisi wrote:why is that weird? do i like, need to again revive the discussion from c9++ abt my concerns of other people's reads on me or

also like i'm not 100% on you being town and that ~hesitation~ in your read on me (when you've given no prior signs that i've done something to make you do that) struck me as a bit out of the blue
i guess in my mind it doesn't really feel like a really big or significant difference rn and idk your concern feels a bit overblown to me

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 5:38 am
by skitter30
In post 772, Toogeloo wrote:I have self voted, to sum up my position, the best way to combat a scum team with no factional kill is for any town players with a damaging potion to holster it and never use it. Any deaths at night will be due to scum.
ig my concern is that to the outside obesrver there's functionally no difference between 'scum using their potion and claiming they didn't' and 'town not using their potion and claiming they didn't' as the hp damage isn't announced

so like yeah someone died but it's literally impossible to tell if you could have been responsible or not
just because you said you didn't do it doesn't mean you didn't

the self-vote is making me hesitate tho
UNVOTE:

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 5:40 am
by Rhyme and Reason
tʃɹɪs - check if someone is damaged, used on Datisi, he was not (I think? this wasn't made explicit but I assume that's what her second post of the day means)
pob long - gulp potion, no effect
T3 - no potions
Rhyme and Reason - damaged tris
skitter30 - fruit vendor potion to R&R
Datisi - charisma potion
Toogeloo - no action
Retti - restored 1 HP to skitter

Fully confirmed actions: skitter30, Datisi
Confirmable in the future: Rhyme and Reason
Can be corroborated but not confirmed: tris, Retti
Unconfirmable: pob long, T3, Toogeloo

Skitter, if you're wondering what scum would claim if they didn't want to claim an attack, those bottom two rows are your answer.

-Reason

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 5:42 am
by skitter30
like ss i don't see why scum *wouldn't* claim the fact that they have the potion because we literally can't tell if they used it or not ...
toog may have used it last night. he may have not. we just don't know.

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 5:45 am
by Rhyme and Reason
I mean if scum have a stock of like 4 damaging potions they're probably not claiming all of them.

-Reason

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 5:45 am
by skitter30
right but they'd claim one i imagine, especially if town has one too

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 5:46 am
by skitter30
do these potions just induce 1point of damage and you can use it each night?

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 5:47 am
by Rhyme and Reason
All potions are 1-shot.

-Reason

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 5:48 am
by Toogeloo
I only have 1 potion. It deals 1 damage to a player when all players start with 2 HP. It made more sense to hold my potion until I had more info to work with.

I asked the mod, and schadd said that once a potion is used, it's gone. So basically, the entire game my only contribution at night is to deal 1 damage only to anyone.

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 5:52 am
by skitter30
ugh maybe i'm tunneled >.>

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 5:55 am
by Toogeloo
I'm still a highly possible miselim, so I'm better to be eliminated early as to help force reevaluations.

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 5:56 am
by tʃɹɪs
i should probably just claim to ensure that toog doesn't kill me if town. pub long can confirm that i am town.

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 5:56 am
by Datisi
In post 777, skitter30 wrote:
In post 771, Datisi wrote:why is that weird? do i like, need to again revive the discussion from c9++ abt my concerns of other people's reads on me or

also like i'm not 100% on you being town and that ~hesitation~ in your read on me (when you've given no prior signs that i've done something to make you do that) struck me as a bit out of the blue
i guess in my mind it doesn't really feel like a really big or significant difference rn and idk your concern feels a bit overblown to me
i see a significant difference between "this person is obviously town" and "they're town? i think? i dunno?" and the last thing i want and/or have pateince for this game is for people to start paranoiaing deepwolftisi so

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 5:57 am
by skitter30
i think you're reading too much into the (?)

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 5:59 am
by T3
I have too many townreads.....

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 6:00 am
by Rhyme and Reason
In post 786, skitter30 wrote:ugh maybe i'm tunneled >.>
Fwiw I feel that intentionally taking damage today was a pretty towny thing to do, from both Toog and T3.

-Reason

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 6:01 am
by Datisi
/shrug, i could be. never stopped me from asking about it.

pedit: this is re 790

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 6:02 am
by Toogeloo
I'm actually pretty much gungho, if I'm not today's elimination, I will attempt to poke myself to (again) remove myself from the miselim pool. The sooner the most suspected people are out, the healthier the game gets to encourage deeper thought.

The most widely assumed theory for the majority of the day today was that both scum are in pob long, T3, and myself. If I'm reading the room correctly, people have begun to assume pob long is now town.

Since I know I am town, my best course of action is to remove myself from the game and force the remaining town players to realize there is a deep wolf (or two) in the game, and now it is important for all town to be reevaluating their reads.

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 6:07 am
by skitter30
maybe i need to revisit rr

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 6:08 am
by T3
What if Datisi is scum.

Huh.

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 6:12 am
by Toogeloo
I would think it will take a couple days for people to be ready to move past their current assumptions. If Datisi is scum, no one will be jumping to that theory any time soon.

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 6:19 am
by Datisi
i'm thinking if there are words that can express how annoyed makes me that both won't (1) accidentally bait anyone into disagreeing with me and (2) break rules about politeness and i don't think there are, so instead i will invite people to talk to me if they wish and leave it at that.

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 6:33 am
by T3
._.

Okay then.