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Post Post #775 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 9:08 am

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but you're not right, you're just wrong lol
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Post Post #776 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 9:11 am

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This is very important to understand, because mindmelding can actually cause a sort of domino effect in a game, where a mindmeld potentially spreads enough that everyone in the game believes that these two players that have just mindmelded and now trust each other are actually town. Having that sort of situation happen greatly increases the chances of town winning from that point forward.



Ich Troje Trusts:
T3, skitter30
skitter30 Trusts:
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Almost50, T3, PookyTheMagicalBear, Datisi

Deadline in (expired on 2021-07-31 00:00:00).[/color]


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Post Post #777 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 9:12 am

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There's like four possible scenarios for koba/t3.


Koba!scum - T3!Town -> Skitter should not accept Koba
Koba!scum - T3!Scum -> Skitter should not accept either of them.
Koba!Town - T3!Town -> Skitter can just accept T3.
Koba!town - T3!Scum -> T3 would've accepted Koba


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Post Post #778 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 9:13 am

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I mean i think you/t3 is a bad idea, what am i supposed to say
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Post Post #779 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 9:14 am

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In post 777, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Koba!town - T3!Scum -> T3 would've accepted Koba
?
t3 hasn't had a chance to / hasn't acknowledged the trust yet...?
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Post Post #780 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 9:49 am

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I don't see any better option tbh
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Post Post #781 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 9:50 am

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Ahhhhhhhhh ok
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Post Post #782 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 9:53 am

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i mean t3 is right there
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Post Post #783 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 9:54 am

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the fuck is this game

and i know he was right there but he could've thought the untrust counted so the fact you were immediately saying that he would've accepted is weird
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Post Post #784 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 9:55 am

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are t3 and pooky Just Town for this or am i missing something?
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Post Post #785 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 9:55 am

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Dats/ich? Idk
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Post Post #786 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 9:56 am

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I think its lock win at this point unless the scum team is exactly T3/A50 which would make 0 sense since T3 didn't accept Ich?
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Post Post #787 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 9:56 am

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skitt can you untrust a50

if we have two townies here i don't see the need to risk it there

but like i am not scum and i don't get the fuck is happening here
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Post Post #788 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 9:57 am

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if A50 flips scum I just snap-accept T3 who should be town since he didn't accept Ich.

if A50 flips town we just win
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Post Post #789 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 9:57 am

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there's literally no risk here
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Post Post #790 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 9:57 am

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unless one of t3/pooky is scum 9000iq-ing this but
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post Post #791 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 9:59 am

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Can t3 be scum with ich? Just to check
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Post Post #792 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 9:59 am

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In post 791, skitter30 wrote:Can t3 be scum with ich? Just to check
theoretically yes?
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Post Post #793 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 9:59 am

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if I'm scum and T3 is town I just accept him

if T3 and I are both scum then skitter accepting A50 ends the game.

if T3 and I are both town and A50 is scum, the game is over since I accept T3.

if T3 is scum and I'm town, then T3 can only be scum with Ich since Ich proposed T3. Which means A50 is town and we win when A50 accepts Skitter.

There's no scenario in which we lose
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Post Post #794 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 10:03 am

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Nice
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Post Post #795 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 10:03 am

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In post 783, Datisi wrote:the fuck is this game

and i know he was right there but he could've thought the untrust counted so the fact you were immediately saying that he would've accepted is weird
i dont wanna angleshoot but yes
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Post Post #796 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 10:06 am

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I kind of just assume people are present and able to play the best play instead of assuming the opposite as it helps me narrow the game state down.

anyway he's posted since then so my interpretation is correct and I think we are in auto-win here?
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Post Post #797 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 10:09 am

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i feel like pooky's post is overlooking scenarios where scum decides to big brain and not immediately accept things

that is not what i want to be thinking about, but something about this game feels off

if nobody is big braining then it's like basically guaranteed there is scum in skitt/a50. i'm wondering if there's a chance scum!pooky doesn't accept this immediately for Some reason
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Post Post #798 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 10:10 am

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In post 797, Datisi wrote:i feel like pooky's post is overlooking scenarios where scum decides to big brain and not immediately accept things

that is not what i want to be thinking about, but something about this game feels off

if nobody is big braining then it's like basically guaranteed there is scum in skitt/a50. i'm wondering if there's a chance scum!pooky doesn't accept this immediately for Some reason
reducing the pool of town candidates in the final 4 would be 1, refuse to accept 1, then accept another, the former person gets sussed for being unaccepted by a flipped scum
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Post Post #799 (ISO) » Fri Jul 16, 2021 10:11 am

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untrust: t3
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