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In post 772, Umlaut wrote:

In post 762, Titus wrote:

In post 757, Umlaut wrote:

In post 750, Titus wrote:VOTE: Chaos

I like Meg's recent posts.

Give me the tl;dr on Chaos? (I realize this is kind of a silly phrasing given Chaos has all of 6 posts but you know what I mean)

That's the problem. Town Chaos is more leadery or tries to be.

I can only recall one game I've played with Chaos (years ago), and he was town in that game and was pretty much like this. Maybe his meta has changed though?

In post 774, Titus wrote:

In post 765, Prism wrote:UNVOTE:

Probably going to go Chaos -> Gamma -> read whole game. Will be shocked if I don't have hardreads on Lukewarm/Vulture/Gamma by the end of it.

Good. I hope our reads match there but I hope you get a townlean on Gamma and Lukewarm. If you trust me, please do so.

In post 777, Prism wrote:

In post 774, Titus wrote:

In post 765, Prism wrote:UNVOTE:

Probably going to go Chaos -> Gamma -> read whole game. Will be shocked if I don't have hardreads on Lukewarm/Vulture/Gamma by the end of it.

Good. I hope our reads match there but I hope you get a townlean on Gamma and Lukewarm. If you trust me, please do so.

Given our, uh, previous track record for matching up (Warehouse/Happy Face as willow) I wouldn't hold my breath but this is a New Game and There Is Hope

In post 776, Prism wrote:For Chaos, 2007 join date means this is likely stylistic, but posting more doesn't mean you have to hyperpost like me/several others. It's just very hard both to push successfully & get a gauge on you if you're playing in such an isolated/quarantined way, and there is a healthy medium here.

In post 781, MegAzumarill wrote:Lukewarm wrote:
post 71, joins the Flubber wagon with no comment on it what so ever.

Post 101, asks Seanzie for thoughts on the flubber interaction, but still has not voiced any thoughts on it themselves

Is my vote not a comment on what I think of the wagon? -This seems like a natural question from Chaos’s perspective, as the a addition of a comment with his vote parroting what already was said seems awfully, redundant, but it seems like that is what Lukewarm is asking for.

Lukewarm wrote:
And then 227 feels like scum realizing that their early day 1 miselim is starting to slip away, and finally stepping in to try and keep it on the table

If everyone is jumping off, why would I be so desperate as scum to keep on here? Wouldn't this draw attention to me as it has? - this seems like the only way someone could respond to this accusation, trying to explain why that interpretation of their behavior wouldn’t make sense as scum. Overall this accusation on Chaos isn’t built on anything solid.

This was right before a large amount of backlash on the post, but mostly "its scummy" or similar. What is your guys' particular problem with the post?

In post 660, MathBlade wrote:last few posts are pretty bad. Gamma's played with me enough to know that I'm top tier scum so if Gamma genuinely thought I was scum I think he'd go back and make a genuine case. I'm going to stick with town for now, but that read is degrading fast.

In post 782, Alchemist21 wrote:

In post 781, MegAzumarill wrote:Lukewarm wrote:
post 71, joins the Flubber wagon with no comment on it what so ever.

Post 101, asks Seanzie for thoughts on the flubber interaction, but still has not voiced any thoughts on it themselves

Is my vote not a comment on what I think of the wagon? -This seems like a natural question from Chaos’s perspective, as the a addition of a comment with his vote parroting what already was said seems awfully, redundant, but it seems like that is what Lukewarm is asking for.

Lukewarm wrote:
And then 227 feels like scum realizing that their early day 1 miselim is starting to slip away, and finally stepping in to try and keep it on the table

If everyone is jumping off, why would I be so desperate as scum to keep on here? Wouldn't this draw attention to me as it has? - this seems like the only way someone could respond to this accusation, trying to explain why that interpretation of their behavior wouldn’t make sense as scum. Overall this accusation on Chaos isn’t built on anything solid.

This was right before a large amount of backlash on the post, but mostly "its scummy" or similar. What is your guys' particular problem with the post?

All his energy this game has been put into justifying his actions as seen above rather than actually hunting scum. It looks more like scum trying to coast by with minimal effort.

Do you get similar feelings from 26/30 by Flubber? If not, what makes them feel different?

Seanzie, any thoughts about the Flubber/Umlaut interaction?

As for other reads I have, Umlaut, Seanzie, Vulture, and Datisi for town, something about Gamma is pinging me, but I can't really put it into words, so I'm ignoring it for now, still think Flubber is scum, the push on Seanzie and his post about mindmelding w/ Titus reads phony.

I am also interested in his jump off of Flubber, but I think his interaction with your slot has a weirder vibe. He votes you, tries being really nice not wanting to step on your toes at all, you post a readlist where he's town, and then he jumps off and says you're a top town read. It doesn't feel genuine./

I'm going to talk about this more further down, but it feels mechanical, like you're going through motions to look town and not actually scumhunting. It doesn't feel like you were trying to sort Aristeia, it feels like you were trying to buddy them and look productive while doing so.

285 from Alchemist feels weird to me bringing up his post count. It's not done explicitly, but it feels like he's trying to use that to show his towniness. I feel the same thing as Meg in 284 that I'm getting weird vibes from him, but I think there's a decent chance this is just playstyle difference, so I'm not really interested pushing there today.

In post 784, Lukewarm wrote:I am considering moving my vote to meg, which, I

know

.

I was the one saying Chaos>Meg, and now people are moving my way, but yeah.

x.x

In post 685, Aristeia wrote:

In post 682, Prism wrote:

In post 666, Aristeia wrote:[[Other line about my entrance not making sense]

610 was posted 9 minutes before Prism's post.

It feels like Prism is stating that it is unthinkable that we are even considering Meg as an elimination option due to 610.

This is silly because

1) 610 was just posted - nobody even has had a chance to respond to it.
2) Prism has just replaced in and has no idea why we are voting Meg nor a real read on her.

There is an edge here that feels like an agenda to me. I don't think Town!Prism would enter the thread with this much certainty.

There are multiple reasons to pursue a snapread,: First, replacements are incredibly annoying as scum an my entrance immediately puts pressure to justify things that otherwise get left for free, and this should be capitalized on immediately. Second, it being very fast does not mean it is not a real read, and these snapreads have been increasingly useful to me over the last calendar year even if the initial accuracy varies by caliber of player.

The more urgent concern was T3 threatening a hammer on a townread.

When you unvote it becomes e-2 so the hammer is not an issue.

You can simply ask us to hold up for 2-3 days in order to give you time to reread the thread

Inmediately snapreading off one post the consensus lead wagon and using 610/megs relative inexperience to say she shouldnt be even on the table reads as very manipulative to me esp if you haven't even read the game.

In post 697, T3 wrote:Aristeia like actually makes sense.

In post 785, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 660, MathBlade wrote:last few posts are pretty bad. Gamma's played with me enough to know that I'm top tier scum so if Gamma genuinely thought I was scum I think he'd go back and make a genuine case. I'm going to stick with town for now, but that read is degrading fast.

I’m not quite certain you’re scum, I just think your theory crafting is off base in a way that indicates you have low expectations for the quality of tris’ modding, and imo there’s no reason for you to feel that way

In post 788, Datisi wrote:

In post 784, Lukewarm wrote:I am considering moving my vote to meg, which, I

know

.

I was the one saying Chaos>Meg, and now people are moving my way, but yeah.

x.x

what's your opinion on the newer stuff that meg's posted?

In post 610, MegAzumarill wrote:I'm fine to be today's mislim but I would like to discuss my analysis more in depth, especially when more people are online.

Try to curb your trigger happy hammering and not cut the day short, I have more to say but the discussion will take some time.

In post 711, Aristeia wrote:

In post 706, Prism wrote:The behavior/approach itself is what I found town even if there's scum incentive. I would not townread more experienced players for the same behavior.

I will grab you backlinks of me playing exactly this way as town if you insist.

If you had been playing all along and had context/progression on her slot I would agree that it absolutely makes sense for you to townread her here.

However you are replacing in cold.

The replacement was announced just a few minutes prior.

It's impossible for you to actually have done the work necessary and I don't think Town!You does a derail with not even doing the work because town!you is a perfectionist at these games to the point of unhealthy obssession.

In post 752, Titus wrote:Of course, I am supposing a competent scumteam and an incompetent or disabled town when I say that.

In post 791, MathBlade wrote:

In post 785, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 660, MathBlade wrote:last few posts are pretty bad. Gamma's played with me enough to know that I'm top tier scum so if Gamma genuinely thought I was scum I think he'd go back and make a genuine case. I'm going to stick with town for now, but that read is degrading fast.

I’m not quite certain you’re scum, I just think your theory crafting is off base in a way that indicates you have low expectations for the quality of tris’ modding, and imo there’s no reason for you to feel that way

1) Poking a setup of which I believe to still be within the normal rules is not an attack on the quality of Tris’s modding. The entire point was I thought this was going to be similar to extra communication mafia and subvert expectations.

2) I literally just got done with a game where the mods gave town way too much power. The literal name of the game with the past few games I have been in is subvert expectations. It was in Calculasia and Boonskiies to name a few.

3) I have never been in a tris game before and not giving scum a PT imho is a brilliant setup design plan. I do not consider it “not mafia” as the mod said.

I think this post is disgusting as fuck here. Like you seriously make up crap about me not having scumread Chaos and now you’re poking at a bear long since dead? Are you trying to piss me off here? It’s working.