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In post 774, Here There Be Dragons wrote:

In post 768, Annie Edison wrote:STD why is AA9 town

good town vibes

~std

young man you get back here and do a better job

In post 775, Here There Be Dragons wrote:

In post 774, Here There Be Dragons wrote:

In post 768, Annie Edison wrote:STD why is AA9 town

good town vibes

~std

young man you get back here and do a better job

nah man it's all about the vibes brah

~std

I don’t think her questioning of me makes sense from the POV of someone actually trying to read me as she’d have her answers if she had just… like, read me. Was there a particular post that had the best vibes?

he declared that he's going to bed so i don't know if you're going to get an answer tonight

In post 770, Snarky Fishes wrote:

Here There Be Dragons wrote:yeah, std has signed all his posts

I feel like I've seen similar sentiment from you before.

In fact, I think you've said similar about me.

In post 780, Snarky Fishes wrote:

In post 770, Snarky Fishes wrote:

Here There Be Dragons wrote:yeah, std has signed all his posts

I feel like I've seen similar sentiment from you before.

In fact, I think you've said similar about me.

Wouldn't surprise me

In post 772, Snarky Fishes wrote:VOTE: Spiffeh

Bad mouse.

-Bell

This made me look back at his iso lol

**Spiffeh throws manatee a lifeline**

**Manatee has a questionable response**

**Spiffeh abandons the thread**

In post 753, Lukewarm wrote:When someone either scum reads me or has concerns, does it look like genuine concerns (sleez) or do they not (manatee, medea)

Explain this a bit more for me.

In post 781, Here There Be Dragons wrote:

In post 780, Snarky Fishes wrote:

In post 770, Snarky Fishes wrote:

Here There Be Dragons wrote:yeah, std has signed all his posts

I feel like I've seen similar sentiment from you before.

In fact, I think you've said similar about me.

Wouldn't surprise me

I'm rereading Xenosaga and it's all your fault.

VOTE: ArcAngel

Read ~most~ of the game. Only slot I felt nothing positive about so far. I feel really icky about the multiple allusions to misunderstanding/not knowing the set up below:

In post 377, ArcAngel9 wrote:What about sending shards to mafia, since they are already are demons so sending shards doesn't affect them? I believe the mafia wins when convert at least 7 more town players into demons. Is my understanding of the setup is accurate? can someone validate and confirm on this?

In post 383, ArcAngel9 wrote:this confuses me. i need to read the setup again!

The second quote in particular is not something that needs to be announced in the thread, and contributes to the "look at me I have no prior setup knowledge which makes me Town!" narrative established in the first quote where she assumes all scum are demonic which we know to be untrue.

She doesn't like the Medea wagon but instead of digging into that discomfort she decides to chase after notty and Penguin to answer questions that don't feel all that fruitful?

Basically several things feel off to the point where it could just be a playstyle quirk that doesn't sit well with me but I kinda have a lot of town and null reads so I don't have anywhere else I wanna put my vote atm

Also think notty is ridiculously obvtown and wanna sheep him even though I predict he will interpret this as buddying and be skeeved out by it!

In post 783, Sleez wrote:

In post 753, Lukewarm wrote:When someone either scum reads me or has concerns, does it look like genuine concerns (sleez) or do they not (manatee, medea)

Explain this a bit more for me.

I think that your concerns about me were genuine, at least your earliest one. After that possibly just started confirmationbiasing yourself.

As much as I disliked your response when I tried to get you to further explain your read, it seemed like a genuine response.

Manatee on the other hand has openly claimed that they are primarily just sheeping your read on me. Their only real unique point was 548 which they instantly dropped when I responded to it 563. That interaction seems off to me, given the fact that I am apparently her top choice for elim today.

And then Penguin's original suspicion on me seemed to revolve around taking my post 42 seriously, which I found doubtful. Cabd never weighed in on that discussion either. Just skipped straight to vaguely having suspicions on me.

What do your scumgame look like Lukewarm and why is it not this game?

In post 705, Annie Edison wrote:I think my reads now looks like

Town
Dunn, fferybell, sleez, LLD(^)
Pooky, CephTD
Spiffy, Titus, Lukewarm, Medea (^^)
Manatee (vv)
AA9
Scum

ninja-
Spiffy I day rolecopped you bc of your awful voting record and it told me you are a vanilla cop

What do you have to say in your defense

In post 729, Snarky Fishes wrote: {Dunn, sleez, notsci}
{LLD}
{Pooky, Lukewarm, Medea}
{everybody else is unsorted/minimally sorted}

I feel like I should have an opinion on Ceph, but I don't. I'll go with Bell's townpoint award, that feels like a pretty robust opinion.

In post 746, Lukewarm wrote:This is where I am sitting at currently

Town

Dunn, ffery/bell
sleez, dragons

Notscience, pooky

Penguin_Alien
Manatee

Scum


And the "I currently have too few thoughts on them to even put them in null" - aa9, lld, spiffeh, titus

Annie Edison, Snarky Fishes
Lady Lambdadelta, Sleez
Pooky, Here There Be Dragons, Lukewarm
Medea, Titus
Spiffeh, AA9
ManateeGal

I'm back and forth on Medea.

I didn't like a lot of early Cabd posts, especially because I feel like Cabd would be having a lot of fun with this playerlist that I don't really see right now; and I sensed some frustration in his reaction to Pooky's initial troll-tunnel on him where I'd expect town!Cabd to shoot the shit with Pooky and play along

I also think the frustration with the "Penguin erasure" from both heads is a tad unreasonable because Cabd was the reason for the wagon on their slot materialized so it makes sense that most players would be addressing their issues with him specifically, coupled with the fact that many of us have significantly more experience playing with Cabd than PA. I feel both heads should be more understanding given this?

But there were also a lot of times reading PA's posts where I felt really good about her so ???

Overall a net negative but will probably leave this read to the ffery/notty's of the world

In post 787, Sleez wrote:What do your scumgame look like Lukewarm and why is it not this game?

Well, I have exactly 2 completed scum games, so that might be a hand question to have a definitive answer.

I think that the best I can give you, is that I don't think that scum!luke ever starts pushing the medea slot the way that I did.

If they are town, cabd is a scary player, and I don't want to put myself on his radar that way. If anything, he is one of the top people I am trying to get to town read me. Like him and ffery would be my 2 town read goals, everyone else be damned. Because, my experience with them is that once they get a town read on me they will go hard to keep me alive.

If they are scum, cabd is almost certainly a bigger asset to my team then me, so I would be out trying to build a counter wagon. If it works, we get a miselim, if it fails hopefully it can turn into a miselim on me instead of on him

Townreading to at least SOME degree: {ffery/Bell, notty, Dunn, Ceph/STD, Pooky}

It's late I'm tired bye

In post 790, Lukewarm wrote:Well, I have exactly 2 completed scum games, so that might be a hand question to have a definitive answer.

Game 1 - Newbie 2067 I was partners with STD, we won. ffery and cabd were the mods.

Game 2 - Pooky's dead silence - not sure how useful this one is. Fun game, but it also lasted like 2 IRL days total

In post 792, Lukewarm wrote:

In post 790, Lukewarm wrote:Well, I have exactly 2 completed scum games, so that might be a hand question to have a definitive answer.

Game 1 - Newbie 2067 I was partners with STD, we won. ffery and cabd were the mods.

Game 2 - Pooky's dead silence - not sure how useful this one is. Fun game, but it also lasted like 2 IRL days total

Accidentally linked the mafia chat for the second one.

Game 2

In post 790, Lukewarm wrote:

In post 787, Sleez wrote:What do your scumgame look like Lukewarm and why is it not this game?

Well, I have exactly 2 completed scum games, so that might be a hand question to have a definitive answer.

I think that the best I can give you, is that I don't think that scum!luke ever starts pushing the medea slot the way that I did.

If they are town, cabd is a scary player, and I don't want to put myself on his radar that way. If anything, he is one of the top people I am trying to get to town read me. Like him and ffery would be my 2 town read goals, everyone else be damned. Because, my experience with them is that once they get a town read on me they will go hard to keep me alive.

If they are scum, cabd is almost certainly a bigger asset to my team then me, so I would be out trying to build a counter wagon. If it works, we get a miselim, if it fails hopefully it can turn into a miselim on me instead of on him

Just putting this out there, that this is not meant to be penguin erasure. I just have experience with cabd, and none with penguin

In post 794, Lukewarm wrote:

In post 790, Lukewarm wrote:

In post 787, Sleez wrote:What do your scumgame look like Lukewarm and why is it not this game?

Well, I have exactly 2 completed scum games, so that might be a hand question to have a definitive answer.

I think that the best I can give you, is that I don't think that scum!luke ever starts pushing the medea slot the way that I did.

If they are town, cabd is a scary player, and I don't want to put myself on his radar that way. If anything, he is one of the top people I am trying to get to town read me. Like him and ffery would be my 2 town read goals, everyone else be damned. Because, my experience with them is that once they get a town read on me they will go hard to keep me alive.

If they are scum, cabd is almost certainly a bigger asset to my team then me, so I would be out trying to build a counter wagon. If it works, we get a miselim, if it fails hopefully it can turn into a miselim on me instead of on him

Just putting this out there, that this is not meant to be penguin erasure. I just have experience with cabd, and none with penguin

I will try to include posts with some cabd erasure to balance it out

I'll need a new target. Re-calibrating for now.

leaving for the airport - dont expect much outta me the next ~48 hours

In post 761, Snarky Fishes wrote:I know Cabd isn't putting nearly the effort into figuring me out that I'm putting into the converse, and if it doesn't take a lot of effort to sort me, that's fine. But not putting in the effort AND not townreading me? That bothers me.

You literally made a big deal about flying a fucking banner from upon high about NO SORTING DANCE. I gave you data in a different way as a backup method of reading you, and you let that convo expire into the void. You told me to read the other head, but he was so annoying (and YOU of all people should know what happens when you call my irritation with my partners being erased or talked down to after what Flavor Leaf did in Illicit, et al) that we went to bed early last night and forced ourselves not to phone post because we nearly snapvoted him out of sheer annoyance and being done with his shit, to the extent that BOTH OF US misread his post as endorsing something he was actually trying to caution against... We were full BEC about Bell, and the thread didn't need that so we disengaged.

So what the hell do you expect me to be doing, here, exactly?

I can tell you what I ~AM~ going to do, and that is join Penguin on the first day in two weeks where i'm not on narcotic painkillers and antibiotics for my face being a toothless crater, and let our daughter have a nice Sunday in the parks.