open 826; trist fall (over)

[the worst]

While I have never, and do not intend, to take it out on anything physical, this is the most frustrated I have been with a game in year and the feeling is what I imagine runs through the mind of people that break a hand punching a wall.

It's a game, man. Take a breath and take a step back, if you're not having fun what's the point?

You'll do better in the next one. You weren't the only one fooled!

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[skitter30]

And i probably overreacted earlier, sorry
I still disagree with the approach, but it didnt warrant me getting so annoyed

And hopefully we can all learn something from this for next time!

[Faker]

I don't want you to think I didn't have fun. For some players, the pursuit of better play and improvement is the real fun, even if it means moments like now.

I appreciate the comments and look forward to playing with most of you again in the future.

[DkKoba]

While I have never, and do not intend, to take it out on anything physical, this is the most frustrated I have been with a game in year and the feeling is what I imagine runs through the mind of people that break a hand punching a wall.

It's a game, man. Take a breath and take a step back, if you're not having fun what's the point?

You'll do better in the next one. You weren't the only one fooled!

^^ obviously feel free to vent a few frustrations post game but after that its like .. just a game

[Faker]

Again, I want to hear zero comments from you. I let the last two replies pass in the hopes of it being the end of it. Apparently letting you have the last word was not enouhg.

I cannot make this more clear. I do not care whether that came from a place of good intention or not. I don't want a followup or an acknowledgement. Stop typing to me, do not join another game of mine.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Easiest backup mod gig ever. If anyone is ever looking for someone do do absolutely nothing let me know.

[DkKoba]

Again, I want to hear zero comments from you. I let the last two replies pass in the hopes of it being the end of it. Apparently letting you have the last word was not enouhg.

I cannot make this more clear. I do not care whether that came from a place of good intention or not. I don't want a followup or an acknowledgement. Stop typing to me, do not join another game of mine.

ok bud see you in a game in around 6 months when you realize this is an extremely petty grudge over a text based game

[Nancy Drew 39]

What is it about this game in particular that gets people so riled up? I wasn’t a player in this obviously but the last time I was, emotions also got pretty intense.

[Infinity 324]

the setup lends itself to town taking things into their owns hands which inevitably will make people pissed

[Nancy Drew 39]

the setup lends itself to town taking things into their owns hands which inevitably will make people pissed

This game is a lot more fun as scum in my experience.

[tris]

thank you for the than k yous

here's scum

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=87621

[tris]

i don't think i like this setup i've decided

[Faker]

I'm pretty fond of it, despite the result. Maybe I'm biased in that I want another chance at it.

[the worst]

Faker & DkKoba, it'd be cool if you could both please take a step back. Criticism for playstyles is totally legit, asking folks to avoid you in future games is fine. I think you're both at an impasse and posting more probably won't benefit anyone.

pedit: it's a really, really high agency setup. if this was like, an RP system I'd want a really detailed session 0. You kinda want players who /know/ that the setup is brutal. A set of random players will probably cause friction more often than usual.

[DkKoba]

If people want a setup where people have agency, having a vote mechanic for allowing trusts could be always implemented to add a layer.

e.g. vote for X to be allowed to trust someone, requires some small number of votes to be allowed.

And then it could be passed around like a baton if someone declines.

idk just spitballing, because if you want people to play in a specific way, you need to design the setup that way - I think my strategy was perfectly valid for wanting to play fast and aggressive and leave scum in the dust/cause reactions to bring out towntells. I always have played unorthodox and will continue to.

^^ anyways here's my suggestion if people want to play in a specific way without risk and also add a layer of info

[DkKoba]

10p require 3 votes on someone to allow them to extend trust -> 8p 2 votes -> 6p 1 vote -> 4p 0 votes(anyone can trust whenever)


that way game still moves at a similar pace, and there's something for players to do rather than just *talk*

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm glad I basically got as close to reading inf!scum correctly as I could with minimal analysis and engagement

[Nancy Drew 39]

10p require 3 votes on someone to allow them to extend trust -> 8p 2 votes -> 6p 1 vote -> 4p 0 votes(anyone can trust whenever)


that way game still moves at a similar pace, and there's something for players to do rather than just *talk*

Kind of like a chaperone?

Actually I think this is a really good idea. I might utilize that should I run it.

[Enchant]

Wait what?

[the worst]

Wait what?

Good post!

[DkKoba]

Wait what?

this is it. this is the summary of the game.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Wait what?

Requiring a third vote to escape.

[Faker]

I opted not to publicly litigate the gamethrowing intent here. There was no benefit to arguing with someone in bad faith, and I wanted the harassment to end ASAP, even at the expense of my own point of view.

I ceded every point imaginable in the hopes of ending the interaction at the expense of letting my judgment that it was gamethrowing go. I requested, extremely civilly, that the interaction be ended, only to be baited further and have my request to be left alone made light of and have Koba threaten to join my games again.

I requested a warning that Koba to stay away from me. I was willing to cede whatever, as long as I got some assurance that I would not be harassed or baited in bad faith further. I marked the box asking to let it be known when my report was handled. After two weeks of no response from the moderation team, I assume I will not get one.

I will not play again, and I want to voice exactly why.

[Faker]

To be clear: If the moderation team felt it was not gamethrowing, then I was willing to cede that. The postgame behavior was completely unacceptable, and to have received no response on it is a disgrace.

[DkKoba]

Ok.