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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 6:52 pm
by Datisi
vote count 2.03

with 7 votes in play, it takes 4 to make a decision. day 2 ends in (expired on 2021-12-07 07:00:00).


elimination
MegAzumarill [2]:
Greeting, marcistar
Greeting [2]:
MegAzumarill, ProHawk

not voting [3]:
StrangeMatter, Cape90, Meuh


mod notes~ one two seven three


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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:10 pm
by ProHawk
I vote your scum buddy, you attack me for it. Why is that not a chainsaw? Like for reals...

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:16 pm
by Greeting
I’ve already made up my mind. I don’t think I have anything more to say now. It’ll be up to the players who are not voting to decide if they trust me, or
MegAzumarill
, or perhaps someone else. As of this particular point in the game I am willing to vote out only out of the aforementioned pool of three players.

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 4:16 am
by Datisi
prodding Meuh.

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 6:17 am
by Meuh
Oops, will try to post more this evening

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 9:34 am
by marcistar
In post 776, ProHawk wrote:I vote your scum buddy, you attack me for it. Why is that not a chainsaw? Like for reals...
cuz im not scum xoxoxoxoxoxox :good:

stop chainsaw defending ur scumbuddy smhsmh :roll:

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 9:39 am
by Cape90
In post 708, ProHawk wrote:
In post 686, marcistar wrote:why wouldnt greeting let prism live another day so that she can continue tunneling prohawk..? :yawn:
do u think prohawk x greeting or..?
This is why Cape is strong town for me... you on the other hand are pushing the issue which doesn't make you look so good.
Hm.

I mean I guess. I still don't like you not really super acknowledging the whole meta argument I made against you, you mostly just were like, "oh I missed the thing at the time. Oh well, how rough for cape, can't backtrack and say anything about it now."

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 9:51 am
by Cape90
In post 732, MegAzumarill wrote:
In post 730, ProHawk wrote:Talk to me about Greeting, I am getting a lot of newb town feels from that slot.

I'm open to a marci elimination though.
I swear I've spent half the game casing that slot.


Just do me a favor.
Read this

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

And I swear you won't be able to tell me it's the same Greeting.

It is night and day
I mean, I just see more sass in that game then here I suppose

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:03 am
by ProHawk
In post 781, Cape90 wrote:
In post 708, ProHawk wrote:
In post 686, marcistar wrote:why wouldnt greeting let prism live another day so that she can continue tunneling prohawk..? :yawn:
do u think prohawk x greeting or..?
This is why Cape is strong town for me... you on the other hand are pushing the issue which doesn't make you look so good.
Hm.

I mean I guess. I still don't like you not really super acknowledging the whole meta argument I made against you, you mostly just were like, "oh I missed the thing at the time. Oh well, how rough for cape, can't backtrack and say anything about it now."
What exactly would you like me to say about it? Did I miss some question there? If you have your mind made up it's made up. It's wrong, but I can't convince you about it and you'll just have to find out for yourself. I would love it if you would vote somewhere... anywhere??

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:37 am
by MegAzumarill
not voting [3]: StrangeMatter, Cape90, Meuh

I think it's time for you to make a decision, or give a reason why this day should continue.
I don't see any meaningful discussion at this point, cases have been made and it's time to make a call or inquire about what you are still unsure of.

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:45 am
by MegAzumarill
At this point I'm tired of reiterating points and having my thoughts thrown out because "greeting is townie"

I'm fighting an uphill battle of someone that I think has had no right to live past D1 compared to what the other wagons were, much less live past today.
It's frustrating as hell and I'm ready to be done with it one way or another.

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 12:45 pm
by marcistar
VOTE: prohawk

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 2:06 pm
by Meuh
VOTE: Strangematter makes the most sense to me here

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 2:08 pm
by Meuh
I was leaning towards ProHawk earlier but I think the way he’s interacted with others makes me doubt he’s scum

To me the elim pool is Strange/Marci/Meg, that’s where I’m willing to go, I don’t think Prohawk/Greeting/Cape should be voted out here

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 2:13 pm
by Meuh
My read on Greeting may just be cognitive dissonance

I feel conflicted on the slot but I’m just hanging onto the idea he’s just acted a bit too much like a townie in some posts to be scum

I feel like an idiot right now honestly

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 2:19 pm
by Meuh
Maybe Greeting’s the slot to elim here actually

If Strange flips town I have no clue where to go from there

At least with Greeting there’s some semblance of direction if it’s wrong

Is this just Marci/Greeting? It may be

I’m not voting for Greeting either way cause E-1 makes me uncomfortable

I think leaving the Meg/Greeting thing alone any longer could just cause issues for us

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 2:23 pm
by Meuh
Greeting’s behaviour in the first few posts of this day just seem like scum trying to appeal to a trusted townie in order to reinforce their own place in the game

Don’t like it :eek:

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 3:19 pm
by marcistar
just elim me tbh, alot more people are wary of me than they are of greeting.
theres no way i would have a chance of doing well in the ~final stretch of the game~ if prohawk is left alive, along with the rest of u guyses lingering doubts.

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 3:50 pm
by StrangeMatter
In post 791, Meuh wrote:Greeting’s behaviour in the first few posts of this day just seem like scum trying to appeal to a trusted townie in order to reinforce their own place in the game

Don’t like it :eek:
???

Who are you even talking about as a trusted townie? And, what do you mean by trying to appeal to a trusted townie?

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 3:57 pm
by StrangeMatter
In post 784, MegAzumarill wrote:not voting [3]: StrangeMatter, Cape90, Meuh

I think it's time for you to make a decision, or give a reason why this day should continue.
I don't see any meaningful discussion at this point, cases have been made and it's time to make a call or inquire about what you are still unsure of.
For one thing, I need people to stop trying to stick a gun to my head to vote, and I'm at the point of saying screw off, I'm doing what I think is best. I still think there's meaningful conversation going on and if you think otherwise I don't know what to tell you. Such as #791 where it gives me almost nothing and is incredibly vague and I want more out of there.

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 4:34 pm
by ProHawk
In post 792, marcistar wrote:just elim me tbh, alot more people are wary of me than they are of greeting.
theres no way i would have a chance of doing well in the ~final stretch of the game~ if prohawk is left alive, along with the rest of u guyses lingering doubts.
If you're town, you honestly think me making it to endgame is better than you?

I'm pretty sure every person here has me in the lower tier category. :shifty:

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 4:51 pm
by ProHawk
In post 794, StrangeMatter wrote:For one thing, I need people to stop trying to stick a gun to my head to vote, and I'm at the point of saying screw off, I'm doing what I think is best
You're new to Mafia right?

I'm going to say this as an experienced player, take it for what it's worth.

You've had an entire D1 which is what 8 or 9 irl days?

You've had 5 or 6 irl days in this phase?

If you wait until the last second to vote, you

1) Create a difficult time for players to analyze your motives (Scum love this as it's beneficial for them)

2) You create an atmosphere where the vote becomes rushed which has the potential of sussing out power town if the majority is wrong, and no time to divert
(This is ideal for scum)

3) Not everyone can be around for deadline so the players that physically can't be here to participate in the last second elimination decision will not be able to change votes (if needed) or participate in crucial end of day discussion if it's left to the last possible second.
(Also helpful for scum)

The point of this game is to eliminate scum (If you're town). The ONLY way to do this is to vote.

There's a reason why people are asking you to vote and make a choice, and it's all pro-town reasons. We aren't holding a gun to your head to rush you or force you into anything. We are asking you to help us catch scum in the most efficient way.

What you are doing is scummy at worst and anti-town at best.

How much time do you need to decide on who you want to vote?? You can have meaningful conversation with a vote out. You can have meaningful conversation when someone is at E-1 and there are TONS of valuable things to glean at how players react when someone is at E-1 and intent is declared and a claim happens.

Ideally, this should be done with 2-3 IRL days left on the clock. This is NOW.

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 4:53 pm
by ProHawk
In post 790, Meuh wrote:Is this just Marci/Greeting? It may be
This is the direction I'm leaning ATM but I need to see Greetings flip first before going partner hunting...

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 6:12 pm
by Greeting
It isn’t me and
marcistar
. Nor me and anyone else.

The push for my elim is coming from scum.

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 6:17 pm
by ProHawk
Two scum?