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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 4:44 pm
by Isis
Likelihood of correct factual recall was lowered. Willingness to say things quickly even though they might not be correct is the same imo, Aristeia's opinion is that that willingness is a little higher for town!skitter, I think that whole analysis is less profound and less AI than the concept of scum sometimes making factually incorrect statements that were framed in fear something like 20% more often than they would as town instead of like being 2% more free-speaking or whatever

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 4:49 pm
by skitter30
- what am i afraid of?
- are your %'s about the average mafia player, or me in particular?

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 4:54 pm
by Isis
-afraid might not be the perfect word. more naturally envisioning gamestates with lances pointed at you.
- It's definitely both but of course on the latter component if that assessment is inaccurate I can't trust your opinion of the assessment even though you'd be incensed about that assessment

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 4:57 pm
by skitter30
I'm kinda objecting to the notion that that post was a reaction to me feeling wary/anxious abt ari putting out feelers r.e. a scumread on me, it was nai. Would respond that way as either alignment

And ari's basically already told you your assessment is wrong - you dont have to trust my opinion at all

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 5:19 pm
by Titus
Let me know when we're back to mafia

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 5:47 pm
by Isis
I don't think Aristeia is scum with you but I think 2 of the 10 players that didn't even comment on my oh so terrible assessment could be

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 5:48 pm
by Isis
maybe someone else said something, idr

it's weird to talk about pet theories that I know will not have traction

i just
feel obligated to
face them

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 5:51 pm
by Titus
In post 780, Isis wrote:I don't think Aristeia is scum with you but I think 2 of the 10 players that didn't even comment on my oh so terrible assessment could be
You did something in the last 5 pages?

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 5:53 pm
by Isis
nah skitter is talking about lik 15 pages ago

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 5:53 pm
by Isis
in the last 5 pages ive only talked about sundresses and tiaras

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 5:56 pm
by skitter30
Ok so someone who you dont think is scum with me has told you you're wrong

Idk why that has no weight
Idk what the other 10 people in the game have to do with anything, or why the fact that scum-me's 2 partners didnt comment is meaningful given another 8 town players didnt either in this universe

I feel like this is more a read that you want to have than something that you actually believe in or makes sense, and that you're looking for reasons to justify it - doesnt even make sense

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 6:00 pm
by Isis
that post sounds towny

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 6:05 pm
by skitter30
Do u still not understand my read on you?

Why is that post townie?

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 6:16 pm
by Isis
I understand why you're like discontent and that makes me see a surface level vibe of seeing me as scum but I think you'd be deeper than that??

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 6:16 pm
by Isis
785 isn't very underminey or shadey even though it's incredulous

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 7:46 pm
by Aristeia
I don't think I have the brain cells to comprehend what's going on currently so I'm going to say something about this when I'm like not sleepy ^_^

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 11:57 pm
by Beat
In post 765, skitter30 wrote:I dont really have a lot of other posts that i particularly want to respond to, but some other things i wanted to mention:

- i find titus scummy
- i find the rise, and fall, of the gamma wagon to be quite interesting and perhaps scum-indicative of gamma. I'm also finding his content to be remarkably flat
- i am maybe getting over my gl sr
- meuh and marci are probably both town
- i dont really understand isis's scumread on me ....
- sundresses were cute
- i think cakez is town and i like his analysis/focus on the gamma wagon

VOTE: isis

Pedit yes sorry i'm bad at this 'catching up' thing >.>
Something about this post is offputting to me. Its perfectly fine at face value but feels kind of non commital and just gives me bad vibes

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 12:32 am
by Beat
I think my problem with it is that it feels like scum positioning themselves rather than sharing thoughts.

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 12:38 am
by SirCakez
Why haven't we limmed Gamma yet

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 12:39 am
by SirCakez
In post 658, Meuh wrote:
In post 650, Aristeia wrote:
In post 647, Meuh wrote:It's interesting that 7/12 ITDNHTBMSUGE (individuals that do not happen to be mafia scum user gamma emerald) have voted for him thus far. The way votes have gone on and off fast makes this not particularly indicative of her being a townie, though, imo
can you finish the thought for me, why does it make her unlikely to be a townie?
Something I've touched on earlier when I was talking to Titus, scum are unlikely to bus in this setup imo. and with one person getting 7/12 votes, there's likely some scum voting there
But like I also said earlier, the way votes have moved around makes me feel like this is less town indicative than it normally would since Gamma's wagon got stopped in its tracks as fast as it started
Yes they aren't sticking. There are prob distancing votes but no scum buddy is gonna actually let that wagon go through for setup reasons.

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 12:40 am
by SirCakez
Is it weird to think the whole RP/shit posting group of worst, Ari, Meuh and Marci is town???

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 12:41 am
by SirCakez
Like my reads keep not changing because I keep seeing townie stuff from my town reads and scummy stuff from my scum reads and it feels weird

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 12:43 am
by SirCakez
Gamma challenged me on my scumread of her and then proceeded to completely ignore when I dropped a post explaining my reasoning

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 12:45 am
by SirCakez
In post 755, skitter30 wrote:
In post 232, SirCakez wrote:I'm pretty good at reading skitter so I feel okay dropping a read earlier
Uh since when?
(Perpetual elo ?)
Since I watched you get screwed over in Tenet as the mod

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 12:53 am
by skitter30
In post 792, Beat wrote:I think my problem with it is that it feels like scum positioning themselves rather than sharing thoughts.
In post 788, Isis wrote:I understand why you're like discontent and that makes me see a surface level vibe of seeing me as scum but I think you'd be deeper than that??
I mean from my pov you're pushing me for basically nonsense reasons and then keep making vague gestures in the direction of a townread whenever i push back

+ i still think your initial beat scumread was icky and there to pile on when it was a popular read

+ i feel like you're writing in a way that's somewhat opaque, making it difficult to understand you

Given that you said you dont think ari is scum with me, i dont understand why you're not giving her opinion weight. To me, that doesnt feel like sorting, that feels like you just want to have this read for whatever reason