In post 733, Bell wrote:I don’t understand Alisse well, but currently. I’m neutral to lean town on them, I think.
Their engagement style conflicts with what I think scum would do. But I can’t quite articulate why.
I am going to have to ask you to move your vote that is currently on Norwee. If you trust mastina's 97.5% read on Norwee, then you should be trusting me 100% tr on Norwee as the player who is probably the best player at the table at reading him, ESPECIALLY because I have a hood with him.
I don’t trust either of you tho.
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 2:42 am
by Bell
I may lose my shit if you claim that you’re masons Alisae. It was fun when I was scum watching Pooky work magic.
But not so much when I’m town this time.
@Cephrir, no my style is pretty much the same. I just had a normal process of cutting out extraneous stuff for one post. Sometimes my posts go short. I dunno why people are saying my reasoning is artificial this game when I’m just posting normally for me. The only difference really is that I’ve been posting at work.
would you say you're self aware enough to fake this as scum potentially
I mean assuming he was scum I doubt he would answer that honestly FA
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I think it's reasonably self-evident the 3 of us aren't some scum-trinity randing into Windclan together, and then deciding our game plan is to come in main thread and compete to desperately bus one or other of us D1; thus at least one of the three of us is town.
I'm ruling out a scum Norwee-Alisae pairing. I've had over 100 hundred posts in Windclan to evaluate that and my mind has been directed to that possibility. I've had a minor suspicion on Norwee, followed by a stronger suspicion on Alisae almost from the start, so I think even pre-Mastina I would be attuned to that possibility. I've not, to the best of my recollection, been taken in by any sort of scum theatre before. You may well doubt the accuracy of my determination on that point, but I think the onus is on anyone who does so to explain why they prefer the testimony of someone who was not a first-hand witness to those posts on their nature over someone who is; particularly when I can't see any scum motivation for me to mislead you on this point even if I were scum.
I know I can't expect anyone to simply take my word for being town, but from my point of view my own alignment means at least 2 of the 3 of us town. My determination at the moment is the most likely scenario we are in is a scum!Alisae by a decent margin; followed behind by a scum!Norwee and the 3 of us being town not too far behind that (if I were to assign numbers to those probabilities for clarity, I would judge it something like 60-25-15).
I think this Norwee-Alisae theory has become a bit of a distraction. I think Alisae is >rand scum at this point, but even so, I don't think it is in our interests to allow the theory that Norwee/Alisae are possibly scum together - which is what I take from posts like "I don't trust either of you tho" - without pushback.
By all means, I don't expect my word on this issue to be treated as gospel, particularly when you don't have access to Windclan PT to evaluate it yourself, but I think if you are going to disregard what I think is an important part of the jigsaw towards solving this game, you might want to say a word or two on why.
I think it's reasonably self-evident the 3 of us aren't some scum-trinity randing into Windclan together, and then deciding our game plan is to come in main thread and compete to desperately bus one or other of us D1; thus at least one of the three of us is town.
I'm ruling out a scum Norwee-Alisae pairing. I've had over 100 hundred posts in Windclan to evaluate that and my mind has been directed to that possibility. I've had a minor suspicion on Norwee, followed by a stronger suspicion on Alisae almost from the start, so I think even pre-Mastina I would be attuned to that possibility. I've not, to the best of my recollection, been taken in by any sort of scum theatre before. You may well doubt the accuracy of my determination on that point, but I think the onus is on anyone who does so to explain why they prefer the testimony of someone who was not a first-hand witness to those posts on their nature over someone who is; particularly when I can't see any scum motivation for me to mislead you on this point even if I were scum.
I know I can't expect anyone to simply take my word for being town, but from my point of view my own alignment means at least 2 of the 3 of us town. My determination at the moment is the most likely scenario we are in is a scum!Alisae by a decent margin; followed behind by a scum!Norwee and the 3 of us being town not too far behind that (if I were to assign numbers to those probabilities for clarity, I would judge it something like 60-25-15).
I think this Norwee-Alisae theory has become a bit of a distraction. I think Alisae is >rand scum at this point, but even so, I don't think it is in our interests to allow the theory that Norwee/Alisae are possibly scum together - which is what I take from posts like "I don't trust either of you tho" - without pushback.
By all means, I don't expect my word on this issue to be treated as gospel, particularly when you don't have access to Windclan PT to evaluate it yourself, but I think if you are going to disregard what I think is an important part of the jigsaw towards solving this game, you might want to say a word or two on why.
In post 733, Bell wrote:I don’t understand Alisse well, but currently. I’m neutral to lean town on them, I think.
Their engagement style conflicts with what I think scum would do. But I can’t quite articulate why.
I am going to have to ask you to move your vote that is currently on Norwee. If you trust mastina's 97.5% read on Norwee, then you should be trusting me 100% tr on Norwee as the player who is probably the best player at the table at reading him, ESPECIALLY because I have a hood with him.
I don’t trust either of you tho.
but we trust mastina because?????????
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 4:59 am
by Ydrasse
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 5:07 am
by Mistyx
VOTE: KittyTacky
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 5:08 am
by SCRRRDBEAR
VOTE: MARASHU
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 10:32 am
by Mistyx
i think i would rather have marashu as a wagon than norwee right now
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 10:58 am
by Shiro
In post 572, mastina wrote:The strength of Alisae's scumread on Val is overblown, in a way that I feel indicates that Val caught Alisae and Norwee's interaction being scum-scum for what it is.
There is absolutly no way Alisae and Norwee interaction were scum-scum
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 11:02 am
by Frozen Angel
I have to yet excuse myself for slacking in this game for the second night in row. But I promise to read this game and catch up tomorrow morning when I have time.
In post 634, mastina wrote:If you and Alisae actually pulled level-0 scumplay it would ironically be a 1000-iq scumplay as too-competent-to-do-this-therefore-they-didn't (except you did).
But you actively went out of your way to avoid the level-0 scumplay which ironically makes it more damning than if you just did it, because the avoidance of level 0 scumplay is more indicative of being scumbuddies than actually displaying level 0 scumplay would be.
