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In post 7744, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 7741, Jingle wrote:RC answered, Ari is scum.

Hider shows up as a Hider action.

VOTE: Aristophanes
Who did Ari claim to target again
And what was your result

Ari claimed to target Meme last night. I voyuered Meme last night. I received the information that Meme was targeted by a roleblocking action and a miscellaneous action. RC clarified to me that a Hider would show up as a Hide action. He specifically would not clarify what a PR roleblocking action would show up as, but I could easily see it as being a roleblocking action and a miscellaneous action.

Also, I implied heavily that I targeted Meme with a watcher shot prior to Ari's claim, so I 100% believe he is the roleblocker.

In post 7737, Shoshin wrote:Is there any reason to believe scum have both roleblocker/redirector, or could it be a single player with both abilities?

This could be. Especially since the night Ari is claiming to have been roleblocked is the night Vec would've had to have been redirected to resolve our 1v1.

Randomidget plays league of legends right

I think the flavourclaim is real which means the roleblocker isn't Ari

I also think that regardless of how it happened, the roleblocker came from LA's dream

However it's still a guilty regardless so get im

Oh btw I think it's now extremely weird that porkens refused to be rolecopped in day 2 considering the claim, rather than just being kinda weird from the interaction

I kinda explicitly believe the reflexive messenger bit from NR's reaction though.

I'd say that aspect of Sheep's claim is a given

Lynching LA is the best shot at hitting the roleblocker but I am concerned it is in fact a factional ability that got unlocked by her dreaming god in night 1, regardless of her alignment

So yeah, my theory right now is that Ari is indeed a hider but he actually carried out a factional nihilistic roleblock on meme men

Is this a coherent perspective as far as you are concerned, Jingle?

In post 7679, jjh927 wrote:If it's not clear

Can you ask RC whether or not you visit people who visit you

i do

UNVOTE:

I'm coming back to this tomorrow

In post 7741, Jingle wrote:RC answered, Ari is scum.

Hider shows up as a Hider action.

VOTE: Jingle
I can't believe this lie. I hid behind Meme and that's that, so unless I was blocked in some way you are lying.

1v1 me.

Finally caught up again st least. Meme said some dumb things that show he doesn't know how hider works but w/e they're towny anyway.

Vecna town, Porkens (sheep) and Jingle are pretty much confirmed scum from this and the selfvote as a first vote is obviously just to get us to townread them.

In post 7759, jjh927 wrote:So yeah, my theory right now is that Ari is indeed a hider but he actually carried out a factional nihilistic roleblock on meme men

Is this a coherent perspective as far as you are concerned, Jingle?

Yes.

Basically, I'm at the point where there's a loud roleblocker who is scum. Whether that's factional or not doesn't change much, but given the roleblocker targeted Meme and Ari claimed to have targeted Meme while I was softing Watcher hard, I think Ari is the one who performed the action last night.

If Vecna is town, there's some manner of Redirection/non loud roleblocking to account for.

It's also possible both are part of the same role, considering the night Vecna needs to have been manipulated, Ari claims to have been blocked.

In post 7762, Aristophanes wrote:1v1 me.

Kay.

How could i have been blocked if I am scum and so is the RB?
Even if there is a scum redirector this makes no sense at all.

But okay, keep pushing this shit
Just means you're the next lynch after I flip town!

You're asking me how you could claim to be blocked if you're a scum blocker? Really?

I'm saying the claim makes no sense and that if I were loud fakeclaiming this would make zero sense. It would mean noactioning in order to fake being blocked which, Iunno if you're familiar with my play, but I would literally never do!

In post 7768, Aristophanes wrote:I'm saying the claim makes no sense and that if I were loud fakeclaiming this would make zero sense. It would mean noactioning in order to fake being blocked which, Iunno if you're familiar with my play, but I would literally never do!

not even if mastina told you it was a good idea?

-rh

In post 7762, Aristophanes wrote:1v1 me.

I don't think I've ever seen Ari get this type of way. I also think it's highly out of his scum range to be going 1v1 with people....so I dont think it's SvS in terms of Ari & Jingle.

Also @GE thanks , I misunderstood the other part of the Hider workings.

-LH

Profi, thoughts so far?

Creat, did you get someone who visited you last night?

-LH

Hi Aris.

Other than jingle, who is scum?

-LH

In post 7772, THE MEME MEN wrote:Hi Aris.

Other than jingle, who is scum?

-LH

Hey Left Head

I think a Jingle/Porkens(sheep) team makes sense. I read a lot in here and it keeps coming back to them. NSG not claiming makes no sense and if not for the Parity clear they would be on this list too. However unless Meme were scum who decided to clear one teammate by bussing another it is extremely unlikely.

I think I missed the fact that Shoshin wasn't here until a certain day too btw. Kinda explains why I had forgotten they were in the game, though the role being a late entry is weird and may indicate 3p of some sort. I don't see either a town or scum being airdropped into a game in progress.

Why would Scum!Jingle fake a mod result to initiate a 1v1 outside of lylo when he's a fairly townread player?

And why against you?