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Post Post #7775 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:11 am

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I think right now it would be won by town a lot because towns are very strong these days
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Post Post #7776 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:11 am

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In post 7773, Auro wrote:
In post 7764, chennisden wrote:There are papers on arxiv which prove that mountanious assuming lynches and nightkill every night is fair when around sqrt n of all players are scum.
In theory (EV wise), yes; in practice, townsided I think.
Yup, Town > EV usually. So no way its scumsided
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Post Post #7777 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:12 am

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Oh sorry, I meant scumsided in practice :P
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Post Post #7778 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:14 am

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In post 7700, RadiantCowbells wrote:probably.

i'm tired of playing games like this and being afraid that if i lose no matter how townsided the game that it's going to be used by people who don't like or respect me to discredit my legacy.

i just want to lock everything in while i'm at the best i've ever been and call it a day.
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Post Post #7779 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:15 am

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Nah I think towns are really strong

We have Opens where the gamestate is something scum always shouldve won and town ends up winning. From a replace or smth.
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Post Post #7780 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:16 am

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Is there a compiled list of town vs scum winrates per year?
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Post Post #7781 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:17 am

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In post 7728, BNL wrote:Something I've not told anyone yet, not even Something_Smart, is that I'm planning a sequel for this game as a collaboration with Boonskiies. Of course, I'll be aiming for it to be more balanced, but I also want it to be more fun for the Mafia, by increasing the number of choices they have, making sure they have at least one for every Power.

If anyone has any suggestions on how the balance could have been better, feel free to suggest it and I may be implementing it in the sequel!

Some players said they wanted to use my game's format for their own games. Go ahead! I was actually hoping to set a precedent with this game, but unfortunately it turned out very unbalanced. Please make the balance better if you run this ;)
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Post Post #7782 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:17 am

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Honestly no clue Auro
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Post Post #7783 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:17 am

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BOON!
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Post Post #7784 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:18 am

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I rly don't think you guys realize how much not obvious stuff I did to make this winnable
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Post Post #7785 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:19 am

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tbh i think fusco forced us to bus hjm in the end
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Post Post #7786 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:20 am

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anyway

the idea shouldnt be that the powers are, well, more powerful than lynch. just make them the sameish power and you're fine.
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Post Post #7787 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:20 am

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Yeah well

We still won

You and Creature did great

ty for not letting me down, etc.
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Post Post #7788 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:21 am

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in particular keep out the stuff without drawbacks please.

like coalition
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Post Post #7789 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:22 am

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In post 7784, RadiantCowbells wrote:I rly don't think you guys realize how much not obvious stuff I did to make this winnable
I’m sure you’re right!

That’s why you rule MS and we are all measly peons who grovel in your presence :wink: :P
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Post Post #7790 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:22 am

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creature hasnt been a free read for a while and when he rolls scum people get stomped because people still think he is.

in mini 2077 we wouldve stomped if it hadnt been for our best friend RAS
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Post Post #7791 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:23 am

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Can’t wait to see those PTs
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Post Post #7792 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:23 am

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I guess I should've known something was really off when the dominant reaction to the townblock coalition failing was to start flipping all of them
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Post Post #7793 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:24 am

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ankamius!!
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Post Post #7794 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:24 am

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In post 7790, chennisden wrote:creature hasnt been a free read for a while and when he rolls scum people get stomped because people still think he is.

in mini 2077 we wouldve stomped if it hadnt been for our best friend RAS
this type of thing is a pretty big reason why I think a lot of people would be better players without trying to use meta reads
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Post Post #7795 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:25 am

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there were no consensus TRs except like

NF and Sky later

the third consensus was, well, scum so.
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Post Post #7796 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:25 am

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In post 7793, chennisden wrote:ankamius!!
heya

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Post Post #7797 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:25 am

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Post Post #7798 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:26 am

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I was a consensus townread

Sky was actually mislynchable honestly but I just didn't want to and there weren't any better nightkills
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Post Post #7799 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:26 am

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sorry fir rolling scum so many times
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