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Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:11 am
by RadiantCowbells
I think right now it would be won by town a lot because towns are very strong these days

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:11 am
by chennisden
In post 7773, Auro wrote:
In post 7764, chennisden wrote:There are papers on arxiv which prove that mountanious assuming lynches and nightkill every night is fair when around sqrt n of all players are scum.
In theory (EV wise), yes; in practice, townsided I think.
Yup, Town > EV usually. So no way its scumsided

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:12 am
by Auro
Oh sorry, I meant scumsided in practice :P

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:14 am
by Baezu
In post 7700, RadiantCowbells wrote:probably.

i'm tired of playing games like this and being afraid that if i lose no matter how townsided the game that it's going to be used by people who don't like or respect me to discredit my legacy.

i just want to lock everything in while i'm at the best i've ever been and call it a day.
Ya you really had to work to win this game...what an uphill battle

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:15 am
by chennisden
Nah I think towns are really strong

We have Opens where the gamestate is something scum always shouldve won and town ends up winning. From a replace or smth.

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:16 am
by Auro
Is there a compiled list of town vs scum winrates per year?

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:17 am
by Baezu
In post 7728, BNL wrote:Something I've not told anyone yet, not even Something_Smart, is that I'm planning a sequel for this game as a collaboration with Boonskiies. Of course, I'll be aiming for it to be more balanced, but I also want it to be more fun for the Mafia, by increasing the number of choices they have, making sure they have at least one for every Power.

If anyone has any suggestions on how the balance could have been better, feel free to suggest it and I may be implementing it in the sequel!

Some players said they wanted to use my game's format for their own games. Go ahead! I was actually hoping to set a precedent with this game, but unfortunately it turned out very unbalanced. Please make the balance better if you run this ;)
/prein me to that!

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:17 am
by chennisden
Honestly no clue Auro

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:17 am
by chennisden
BOON!

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:18 am
by RadiantCowbells
I rly don't think you guys realize how much not obvious stuff I did to make this winnable

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:19 am
by chennisden
tbh i think fusco forced us to bus hjm in the end

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:20 am
by chennisden
anyway

the idea shouldnt be that the powers are, well, more powerful than lynch. just make them the sameish power and you're fine.

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:20 am
by RadiantCowbells
Yeah well

We still won

You and Creature did great

ty for not letting me down, etc.

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:21 am
by chennisden
in particular keep out the stuff without drawbacks please.

like coalition

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:22 am
by Baezu
In post 7784, RadiantCowbells wrote:I rly don't think you guys realize how much not obvious stuff I did to make this winnable
I’m sure you’re right!

That’s why you rule MS and we are all measly peons who grovel in your presence :wink: :P

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:22 am
by chennisden
creature hasnt been a free read for a while and when he rolls scum people get stomped because people still think he is.

in mini 2077 we wouldve stomped if it hadnt been for our best friend RAS

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:23 am
by Baezu
Can’t wait to see those PTs

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:23 am
by Ankamius
I guess I should've known something was really off when the dominant reaction to the townblock coalition failing was to start flipping all of them

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:24 am
by chennisden
ankamius!!

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:24 am
by Ankamius
In post 7790, chennisden wrote:creature hasnt been a free read for a while and when he rolls scum people get stomped because people still think he is.

in mini 2077 we wouldve stomped if it hadnt been for our best friend RAS
this type of thing is a pretty big reason why I think a lot of people would be better players without trying to use meta reads

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:25 am
by chennisden
there were no consensus TRs except like

NF and Sky later

the third consensus was, well, scum so.

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:25 am
by Ankamius
In post 7793, chennisden wrote:ankamius!!
heya

gg

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:25 am
by chennisden
gg ank

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:26 am
by RadiantCowbells
I was a consensus townread

Sky was actually mislynchable honestly but I just didn't want to and there weren't any better nightkills

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:26 am
by chennisden
sorry fir rolling scum so many times