Yeah, if anything I'm known for death tunneling a townie at least once per game as townIn post 7770, DeasVail wrote:I don’t have the same expectation of FL/Boon being right in reads that you do
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Yeah, I feel Frogster's in the space where he's trying to actively say as little as possible to not have any hard ties to them.In post 7795, tenebrousluminary wrote:I do quite think it is frog. He has done no solving and posted nothing town from day 2 on. But we can do eyes first and talk about it tomorrow.
That vote on Eyes is one of the few pieces of action they've taken for a while, and it seems like a specifically chosen political vote, if that makes sense.
It creates a WIFOM association. We could think it's them bussing a scum, or pretending to bus a scum. Heavy WIFOM in it.
I personally think in their situation, they're more likely to vote a partner than town since it's highly likely Frogster goes down sometime. Not impossible, but it'd be safe to setup.
However, a Scorp/Eyes + 1 traitor does have potential as well, meaning Froggy could be town, meaning that Cape/VPB+Nero-Frog was TT+T-T.Time Is Money, Money Is Power, Power Is Pizza, Pizza is Knowledge- Frogsterking
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The idea is that we build up assumptions to make the world seem less abstract and we avoid challenging those assumptions because it's effortful and induces psychic pain. When we're faced with incontrovertible evidence our assumptions are wrong (like being betrayed by someone close) our ego collapses and we experience psychic pain and everything seems more abstract. Jung suggested most of us actively avoid experiencing ego death because it's highly unpleasant. Jung also suggested going through it is important for the development of insight.In post 7794, tenebrousluminary wrote:
Not really. I feel pretty confident there is going to be no point to this question.In post 7783, Frogsterking wrote:In post 7656, tenebrousluminary wrote:Prediction: If this flips town, Math will live and somehow find a way to blame me for it.
Luminary,In post 7673, tenebrousluminary wrote:I am quite likely the only uncleared player who is not scum. I expect this game to end when Math decides to mislim me despite how painfully obvious my alignment should be because I did not strike his ego enough and dared to be right about a wide variety of topics, and I am preemptively mad about it.
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Are you familiar with the Jungian concept of ego death?
The comments here like "...Math will live and somehow find a way to blame me for it", "...dared to be right about a wide variety of topics", "...I am preemptively mad about it" and "I feel pretty confident there is going to be no point to this question" indicate to me that you make a lot of assumptions about the game. I also think you actively avoid challenging those assumptions. I think it can be AI because it's easy to fake because of the lack of subtlety required to perform it, and if you're town, it indicates you're likely to become confbias on your own ideas and make a mishammer yourself, making you a liability regardless of your alignment.
That's my point.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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I have been playing a lot of Diplomacy on webdip, hopefully it's a sign of some positive change with my approach to social games.In post 7801, April Ludgate wrote:That vote on Eyes is one of the few pieces of action they've taken for a while, and it seems like a specifically chosen political vote, if that makes sense.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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Thank youIn post 7786, DeasVail wrote:Frogster that reasoning seems… very early-game for this stage of the game.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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I wonder how long before someone shouts distancing and decide to team me with Frog (whom I've been calling scum all game, btw. Ever since he asked that weird question about quantum mechanics and universe origins on day one)In post 7785, Frogsterking wrote:I'm thinking Eyes and Galron have really low activity counts so start pressuring there and see what they do VOTE: Eyes- Eyes without a face
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Would it make the game status better if I went berserk? Is there anything I can say or do that would make my claim more believable to you/anyone else? I guess we both know the answer to these two questions so what's the point?In post 7808, DeasVail wrote:Eyes, it’s interesting to me that you haven’t responded to people clearly doubting your claim. You’ve had a lot to say about a lot of things, and based on your play here I would have expected you to be more outraged that your claim isn’t believed
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I have a couple questions for you.
Why did you select these players to follow when you did:
N1 STD (No Action)
N3 Deas (No Action)
And second, if you scum read me all game why did you never follow me?Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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As I said I picked the people to follow based on my own expectation of them making it long into the game. It would have been useless from my PoV to follow someone who was likely to get chopped soon anyway and that should also explain why I never followed you because I suspected you and expected you to go down sometime earlier.In post 7810, Frogsterking wrote:I have a couple questions for you.
Why did you select these players to follow when you did:
N1 STD (No Action)
N3 Deas (No Action)
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Why did you expect D1 STD to survive for a long time and why did you expect D3 Dease to survive for a long time?In post 7811, Eyes without a face wrote:
As I said I picked the people to follow based on my own expectation of them making it long into the game. It would have been useless from my PoV to follow someone who was likely to get chopped soon anyway and that should also explain why I never followed you because I suspected you and expected you to go down sometime earlier.In post 7810, Frogsterking wrote:I have a couple questions for you.
Why did you select these players to follow when you did:
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N3 Deas (No Action)
And second, if you scum read me all game why did you never follow me?Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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STD presence wasn't much on D1 yet nobody was looking at him and it looked like there were at least 7 players that were being evaluated before anyone would even notice him. Deas was almost the same by D3. By D3 the game status looked like giving him a pass for a long time.
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Yeet, April, Titus, DeaseIn post 7813, Eyes without a face wrote:STD presence wasn't much on D1 yet nobody was looking at him and it looked like there were at least 7 players that were being evaluated before anyone would even notice him. Deas was almost the same by D3. By D3 the game status looked like giving him a pass for a long time.
Who would you have picked to follow if you were me?Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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I don’t remember I am too lazy and feeling sick and you’re probably scum so??In post 7807, Eyes without a face wrote:@Math: You do realize that you have been shielding Frog for as long as you have been playing in this game, right? May I request you remind us of HEM's read on Frog in the masons thread?ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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You would have considered the guy that claimed ASCETIC???In post 7815, Frogsterking wrote:I would've seriously considered VP as well- Eyes without a face
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What does this have to do with my question? And then people complain I am not participating enough! Sheesh!In post 7816, MathBlade wrote:
I don’t remember I am too lazy and feeling sick and you’re probably scum so??In post 7807, Eyes without a face wrote:@Math: You do realize that you have been shielding Frog for as long as you have been playing in this game, right? May I request you remind us of HEM's read on Frog in the masons thread?- MathBlade
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It means I lack the spoons and wim to answer it.In post 7818, Eyes without a face wrote:
What does this have to do with my question? And then people complain I am not participating enough! Sheesh!In post 7816, MathBlade wrote:
I don’t remember I am too lazy and feeling sick and you’re probably scum so??In post 7807, Eyes without a face wrote:@Math: You do realize that you have been shielding Frog for as long as you have been playing in this game, right? May I request you remind us of HEM's read on Frog in the masons thread?ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I don’t think so.In post 7820, Eyes without a face wrote:Would you have been willing to do the effort if someone that was "probably not scum" asked instead of me?ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Because I have to provide a read for a valid prod dodgeIn post 7822, Eyes without a face wrote:Then why did you add that specific bit when you could have stopped at mentioning lazy and sick??ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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