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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:30 pm
by Deacon Blues
@skitter: do you want to talk spiffeh? Based on this thread alone he'd be weak scum to me, but he had some early notes back in forward that i need to go back and find

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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:32 pm
by Deacon Blues
In post 7848, midwaybear wrote:Imagine if this is TvT
is that what you think?

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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:33 pm
by skitter30
ffery i'm like reasonably confident you have said to me recently that cabd would relish the challenge to try to snow you. i have no idea how he relates to imperium etc but this is my impression of him

bork sure, but i'm gonna sign off shortly. what do you want to talk abt ?

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:35 pm
by petapan
i was the one who was most strongly scumreading spiffeh and i got into it with him some dozens of pages back or whatever it was, i've made a few posts about it if you'd like me to quote. i'm not sure skitter's arguments were as strong aside from him just not being towny here

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:36 pm
by Deacon Blues
In post 6297, Annie Edison wrote:I’m not saying it doesn’t. But I know I’m opening Pandora’s box with this.
In post 6304, Annie Edison wrote:Hi ffery!

Now I understand part of the bell readflip are the crumbs from the doctor that never happened. Other than the aforementioned ate and sowing discord is there something else I’m missing?

Because I really had a lot of concern for the timing of cabds readflip on me and then going “well sucks it came up now when we can’t talk about it” when he was the one who brought it up lol
I feel like I've been trying to maintain the structural integrity of a very muddy dike regarding Cabd's read of you, ever since mid-ish Day 2. And sometimes my certainty erodes.

I can't maintain my read of you and that sucks. :/

I'm not looking forward to it if I survive to be in the same thread with you. :(

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:36 pm
by skitter30
eh actually very shortly but if you wanna pick it up tomorrow i'm happy to do that

pedit yeah it mostly boils down to not being towny here + basically no reason for scumreading peta despite insisting he's scum. i don't have much more in depth than that, i wasn't following the other thread that closely. + expecting people to townread him when he's done little to actually warrant them, and going off in a huff when that's not happening. oh also his a50 read is weak and kinda lazy

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:38 pm
by Deacon Blues
In post 7852, skitter30 wrote:bork sure, but i'm gonna sign off shortly. what do you want to talk abt ?
prevailing reason as of you thought he was scum i guess would be nice springboard

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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:38 pm
by Deacon Blues
In post 7855, skitter30 wrote:eh actually very shortly but if you wanna pick it up tomorrow i'm happy to do that
yeah

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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:38 pm
by Deacon Blues
In post 7855, skitter30 wrote:eh actually very shortly but if you wanna pick it up tomorrow i'm happy to do that
yeah

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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:40 pm
by Deacon Blues
In post 7852, skitter30 wrote:ffery i'm like reasonably confident you have said to me recently that cabd would relish the challenge to try to snow you. i have no idea how he relates to imperium etc but this is my impression of him

bork sure, but i'm gonna sign off shortly. what do you want to talk abt ?
Once upon a time I was easy to snow.

This is not once upon a time.

Cabd is going to fool me eventually. I think I know the dimensions of that room, even if the furnishings and decor will suggest otherwise. And I hope I surprise him when the moment comes.

I really can't talk more about this without making it infinitely easier for cabd to snow me in this shrodinger's box of a future game.

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:41 pm
by Deacon Blues
In post 7853, petapan wrote:i was the one who was most strongly scumreading spiffeh and i got into it with him some dozens of pages back or whatever it was, i've made a few posts about it if you'd like me to quote. i'm not sure skitter's arguments were as strong aside from him just not being towny here
what as of did you not like about his iso in the other thread?

because i think that's how we got into this current gamestate of you v him

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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:44 pm
by skitter30
In post 7855, skitter30 wrote:pedit yeah it mostly boils down to not being towny here + basically no reason for scumreading peta despite insisting he's scum. i don't have much more in depth than that, i wasn't following the other thread that closely. + expecting people to townread him when he's done little to actually warrant them, and going off in a huff when that's not happening. oh also his a50 read is weak and kinda lazy
basically boils down to this bork. you want more than this?

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:44 pm
by Deacon Blues
later is fine if you want to get to bed; i want to interact w/ some others

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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:45 pm
by Deacon Blues
In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=12488555#p12488555]post 7859[/url], Annie Edison wrote:
In post 7854, Deacon Blues wrote:I feel like I've been trying to maintain the structural integrity of a very muddy dike regarding Cabd's read of you, ever since mid-ish Day 2. And sometimes my certainty erodes.

I can't maintain my read of you and that sucks. :/

I'm not looking forward to it if I survive to be in the same thread with you.
Well I’ve been the pretty consistent wagon today. I think this is a do or die time to get me sorted before we get there? I think we both know I’m making it to tomorrow even if I flip.
I saw this and thought I'd posted in the wrong thread!

Some of your posts tonight looked like you were trying to fish out PR claims and that bothers the everloving fuck out of me.

You do that kind of shit, and my muddy dike structural support washes out to sea.

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:46 pm
by skitter30
ffery i'm p sure you told me this like recently ... ?
and that he'd want to snow you?
putting aside the issue of whehter or not *he can*, you're currently making the argument that he wouldn't even try, but i'm under the impression from you + other people in said cohor that he would definitely enjoy the challenge and would wnat to make the attempt

ok really bouncing now, g'night

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:48 pm
by Deacon Blues
In post 7864, skitter30 wrote:you're currently making the argument that he wouldn't even try
wouldn't actively seek it out if he had other avenues i guess is my argument; if he got put in that position then sure, game on

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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:48 pm
by petapan
In post 7860, Deacon Blues wrote:
In post 7853, petapan wrote:i was the one who was most strongly scumreading spiffeh and i got into it with him some dozens of pages back or whatever it was, i've made a few posts about it if you'd like me to quote. i'm not sure skitter's arguments were as strong aside from him just not being towny here
what as of did you not like about his iso in the other thread?

because i think that's how we got into this current gamestate of you v him

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i was looking at day 2 and saw a lack of scumhunting, in hindsight using this as a way of reading people was probably not the best idea given the reads it led me on to attack just about everyone, i think people were afflicted with holiday doldrums and there wasn't a ton of solving in either thread. nonetheless after repeatedly trying to dialogue with him i was unsatisfied, in particular i felt the reads he threw out were just implausible and didn't reflect critical thinking, he's been very surface level. i can quote the arguments i made earlier today for you

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:49 pm
by Deacon Blues
In post 7864, skitter30 wrote:ffery i'm p sure you told me this like recently ... ?
and that he'd want to snow you?
putting aside the issue of whehter or not *he can*, you're currently making the argument that he wouldn't even try, but i'm under the impression from you + other people in said cohor that he would definitely enjoy the challenge and would wnat to make the attempt

ok really bouncing now, g'night
Oh he would absolutely try if he were scum and he might very well succeed.

This game is now how scum-Cabd would go about that.

I'm not saying that I don't have occasional paranoid flashes. They happen and I have to deal with them and weigh up whether they make sense or not. Rational me, so far, dismisses the paranoid flashes with extreme prejudice.

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:49 pm
by Deacon Blues
now should be not

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:50 pm
by petapan
basically after being unsuccessful in trying to get something out of him, some sort of stream of consciousness that felt like a Real Thought, I went back and looked at his iso in the other thread from the start and found things i had issues with

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:52 pm
by Deacon Blues
In post 7866, petapan wrote:in particular i felt the reads he threw out were just implausible and didn't reflect critical thinking
which?

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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:52 pm
by Deacon Blues
(you can link me to posts if you want that's fine)

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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:54 pm
by Deacon Blues
In post 6306, Annie Edison wrote:I suppose curiosity and cats apply here. But I was wondering because that made me wonder why not swap a weak modifier role that could actually get stuff done than superb? Plus it’s massclaim anyways? So why does it matter I want more elaboration?
small w weak

that's +town from noddy i think

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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:57 pm
by petapan
In post 7318, Spiffeh wrote:Town: {Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, LLD}
Townlean: {Firebringer, skitter30}
Null: {Pooky, midwaybear}
Scumlean: {petapan}
Scum: {Almost50}

This is where I'm at off the top of my head

Might ISO Pooky and midwaybear if I get the chance this week because I haven't read many of their posts since getting here

AMA
In post 7324, Spiffeh wrote:
In post 6505, petapan wrote:in hindsight i probably shouldn't be giving spiffeh a pass for sheer total incuriosity; having a50 as his sole scumread is also pretty shite
In post 6612, petapan wrote:takes me literally a few minutes to look at someone and spiffeh couldnt be fucked lmao
Hmmm you're right that I probably shouldn't be so generous with town reads given the amount of scum remaining

It's just how i feel rn idk

If I had to guess the scum team I'd say {A50, petapan, Hench Princesses, Annie Edison, and two of {Pooky, midwaybear, Bell, superbowl}}
caveat: he walked this back almost immediately because it was incredibly late, but i still dont see how someone looks at the game and thinks all those people can be town and the scumteam is in that group

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:59 pm
by Deacon Blues
In post 7873, petapan wrote:but i still dont see how someone looks at the game and thinks all those people can be town and the scumteam is in that group
because you don't agree w/ them or because they don't make sense together or what

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