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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 12:48 pm
by Roden
Mine

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 12:51 pm
by MathBlade
I just looked at EoD again and I mean Dunn confirmable and Frogger rolecop claim

So I mean dead because PR claim?

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 12:55 pm
by ProfessorDrapion
In post 7876, MathBlade wrote:I just looked at EoD again and I mean Dunn confirmable and Frogger rolecop claim

So I mean dead because PR claim?
Maybe.

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 12:55 pm
by ProfessorDrapion
In post 7869, Roden wrote:My reads are garbage omg
Same, they were both in my wolf PoE.

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 12:56 pm
by Roden
In post 7874, MathBlade wrote:Covid sucks.

Brain is fried.

Read nothing.

Multiball would be weird. Like it would match the all town vibe I was feeling earlier but like how would multiball but all mafia work?

I think let’s listen before conclusions

We had a ton of people running their mouth.

Let’s slow down and communicate.

It’s likely scum have at least one kill so let’s look at Dunn’s and Frog’s reads
I agree that Multiball would be weird, but a mafia double kill or a Vig shot there would be just as weird.

I'm not sure either were killed for reads, we had a plan to try to confirm Dunn and test Frog's utility as a Rolecop. I think it makes sense for scum to kill them, especially if scum lies within the consensus town reads so that they have an excuse to still be alive.

PE: Yeah that's what I'm getting at. Killing them makes sense from a scum perspective, but not from a Vig perspective.

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 12:57 pm
by MathBlade
In post 1101, Save The Dragons wrote:
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Jack leads people to the caves after it seems rescue is not happening. Two corpses are found at the caves, one of them contains a bag with two stones, one dark, one light. The concept of dark and light reappears throughout the show.

Vote Count 1.187 Frogsterking (JohnnyFarrar, Roden, Lukewarm, Galron, BlueBloodedToffee, Dancing Puppets, Enchant)

5 BlueBloodedToffee (Dunnstral, Cat Scratch Fever, Frogsterking, Cephrir, PenguinPower)

2 Galron (Bellaphant, The toad)

1 Cephrir (PookyTheMagicalBear)
1 The toad (Rad)
1 Dancing Puppets (Malakittens)
1 Rad (Off the Hook)
1 Bell (T-Bone)
1 Dwlee99 (Bell)

Not Voting (Taly, MalcolmTucker, Corwinoid, Cytosine and Guanine, Klick, Dwlee99)

With 26 alive, it takes 14 to yeet.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-07-18 12:42:51)

Mod Notes
VOTE: BBT

Ceph Frog and Dunn on BBT.

Good place to start discussion I think

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 1:00 pm
by Roden
If there is only one factional kill, I think Dunn is the who gets shot. Rolecop is a pain but doesn't catch guilties for the most part, so Frog likely isn't seen as big a threat as Dunn who never actually claimed anything besides being confirmable. For all anyone knows, "confirmable" could mean Cop.

Frog made it clear he was going to target whoever he wanted. If he hit a PGO, that could explain his death, but then we have no idea who it is.

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 1:01 pm
by MathBlade
In post 7879, Roden wrote:
In post 7874, MathBlade wrote:Covid sucks.

Brain is fried.

Read nothing.

Multiball would be weird. Like it would match the all town vibe I was feeling earlier but like how would multiball but all mafia work?

I think let’s listen before conclusions

We had a ton of people running their mouth.

Let’s slow down and communicate.

It’s likely scum have at least one kill so let’s look at Dunn’s and Frog’s reads
I agree that Multiball would be weird, but a mafia double kill or a Vig shot there would be just as weird.

I'm not sure either were killed for reads, we had a plan to try to confirm Dunn and test Frog's utility as a Rolecop. I think it makes sense for scum to kill them, especially if scum lies within the consensus town reads so that they have an excuse to still be alive.

PE: Yeah that's what I'm getting at. Killing them makes sense from a scum perspective, but not from a Vig perspective.
I can see some worlds where a vig shoots someone.

I think it would be anti town but considering how D1 ended it wouldn’t surprise me maybe an arrogant D1 vig

But more than likely needs an explanation.

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 1:03 pm
by MathBlade
That should say N1 vig*

I swear I can type

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 1:11 pm
by Cat Scratch Fever
I think Dunn NK'd and Frogster vigged is the most likely explanation. Several people were heavily scumreading Frogster

Math, weren't you scumreading Frogster at the end of day 1? Why is it a surprise to you that someone would vig there?

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 1:15 pm
by MathBlade
In post 7884, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:I think Dunn NK'd and Frogster vigged is the most likely explanation. Several people were heavily scumreading Frogster

Math, weren't you scumreading Frogster at the end of day 1? Why is it a surprise to you that someone would vig there?
I literally said I see some worlds where Frog was vigged? *confused*

And yes I was scumreading Frog end of D1 but Dude was being ridiculous

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 1:15 pm
by Roden
Arrogant/anti-town Vig is possible but I don't want to assume that. Though at the same time, I'm not particularly upset about these kills? Three of my scum reads all flipped town in quick succession, so now I have to reassess everything immediately instead of trying to parse D2 with my scum reads still around. So I guess I wouldn't say this was a "bad" Vig shot (if it was one), the flips are actually pretty informative.

VOTE: BBT

I'll follow you on this for now, seems like a good start.

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 1:16 pm
by Cat Scratch Fever
In post 7882, MathBlade wrote:But more than likely needs an explanation.
This line

Seems like you think it was a bad vig overall

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 1:18 pm
by MathBlade
In post 7887, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 7882, MathBlade wrote:But more than likely needs an explanation.
This line

Seems like you think it was a bad vig overall
Because it is.

I can scumread someone and think bad vig. Frog claimed an invest.

Frog even if scum would have to accurately say someone’s read or end up in a 1v1

So bad vig even if Frog was scum.

(He wasn’t so that makes it even worse)

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 1:20 pm
by MathBlade
Someone’s role*

Lmfao

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 1:21 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
LOL OOPS I SUCK SORRY FROGSTER

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 1:21 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 7888, MathBlade wrote:So bad vig even if Frog was scum.
nah it was a good vig cuz I would've spent the entire day pounding the table chanting frog bloood frog blood frog blood

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 1:22 pm
by MathBlade
In post 7891, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 7888, MathBlade wrote:So bad vig even if Frog was scum.
nah it was a good vig cuz I would've spent the entire day pounding the table chanting frog bloood frog blood frog blood
Or you could like just….not?

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 1:23 pm
by JohnnyFarrar
In post 7891, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 7888, MathBlade wrote:So bad vig even if Frog was scum.
nah it was a good vig cuz I would've spent the entire day pounding the table chanting frog bloood frog blood frog blood
Honestly same

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 1:23 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
i can't control my bloodthirst when i become convinced someone is mafia

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 1:25 pm
by MathBlade
There’s no point in bickering now.

What do you think of BBT?

They’re someone the three of them agreed was scum?

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 1:28 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
i don't remember anything BBT has done all game tbh

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 1:30 pm
by Off The Hook
I had a theory throughout the night phase and Frog was scum in that theory
I’ll have to recalibrate and figure out how much of it still feels solid

~GE

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 1:35 pm
by Enchant
Vig is antitown role designed to purify town and annoy shit out of everything via shots on innocent childs and cops.

Vig is criminal after all.

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 1:35 pm
by JohnnyFarrar
The only thing I did during the night was make eyes at tbone