In post 6580, fireisredsir wrote:there's a very good chance all 3 of those are town shots so if you are town then maf team is doing us a favor lol
Kinda where I am at and I think still elim Titus
Wagon shoulda switched to Cape when I tried and scum blantantly overruled me while trying to make it my elim.
You should really reread the thread lol. I literally hammered just to get that day over with.
But if we eliminate me, we eliminate me. Just give me a few days to get my thoughts together.
I hate you because I was about to case April like literally 30 minutes after you hammered who I am less confident on since the Nero flip, but sorta still pretty confident on.
God Nero was openwolfing in the hood, they would have been the easiest push for me today
In post 7194, fireisredsir wrote:given the possible partners that tene would have if he were scum here, the movement on the d1 and d2 wagons actually fit kinda perfectly
gonna be annoyed if i had it right originally and everyone convinced me tene was town. still not interested in it today but that's why he isn't quite full town for me yet
Here's the thing, you and I both had that mentality with Tene, where we were convinced he was town by other people.
That might be telling, Fire.
I think this makes me scum read Tene a little bit more now that I think about it.
Frog/Cape/Tene/Titus was my solve, and I think that would explain why I started getting more heat by Cape/Tene.
But I add in Eyes here, so I think this is a near perfect solve atm.
We're almost there.
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2022 9:37 pm
by April Ludgate
In post 7756, April Ludgate wrote:Scorp/Frogster/Eyes/Tene have all the Group Scum in them, could have the traitor, doesnt have to.
STD/Galron/April/DV cannot be scum together, and if scum, HAVE to be traitor.
Woo!!!! Look at that topper.
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2022 9:39 pm
by April Ludgate
Might consider going Eyes today because an Eyes traitor flip confirms me as town, but still think somehow Frogster can slip through in that scenario, especially if I die after becoming conf town, so gonna stick with the Frogster push.
Frogster seems to be the preferred lim for people today, slot doesn't look good.
Scorpius is looking towny compared to when I played against them as scum.
April looks townie so far
Other slots look meh, lots of talk from my predecessor.
I'm not willing to vote for StD today because of my result. I'll look for context but we can do better.
This has a decent chance of being a purposeful plant.
In post 5603, Eyes without a face wrote:If my reads were perfect (hint: they're not) I would only lim between Scorpious, Datisi/Titus, tenebrousluminary, Frogsterking today.
Maybe I should make a stance now?
VOTE: Frogsterking
There you go.
Yeah, I think Eyes has heavy traitor potential.
Their reads were very solid if you go check their early ISO.
"if my reads were perfect"
Then it might be this, this could also mean there's an additional scum in the game.
Either way, this leads more credibility to the Frogster is scum.
In post 5603, Eyes without a face wrote:If my reads were perfect (hint: they're not) I would only lim between Scorpious, Datisi/Titus, tenebrousluminary, Frogsterking today.
Titus jumping on here makes sense as a scum partner of Frog because the wagon gains momentum, if Frog goes down, on a Vote Count it would look anti partnery. Exactly the type of thing Titus would do.
In post 7125, Eyes without a face wrote:You're all too noisy and I'm glad I managed to get this far, so I'll claim and let someone better at making connections interpret the info
I was a 4-shot follower. My results:
N1 STD (No Action)
N2 Nero (Protective)
N3 Deas (No Action)
N4 tene (No Action)
I was mainly trying to confirm slots that didn't look like they're going to get eliminated anytime soon. Unfortunately Nero got shot at night which is something I could not have controlled or predicted.
I also thought a goon was more likely to do the kill early on so I thought the STD result was a stronger clear than say that of Deas and Deas is still a bit stronger than tene, but I'll leave that to someone who knows better
Current readlist:
[*]Eyes without a face, [*]Nordrom/Mathblade
[*]Save The Dragons, [*]DeasVail, [*]tenebrousluminary
[*]Aristeia/April Ludgate, [*]fireisredsir, [*]skitter30/Galron, [*]Cape90
[*]Frogsterking, [*]Scorpious
None of this is anything that couldn't be proven. This also gives a little protection to possible partner Tene.
This forced Tene to need to claim VT if scum.
Hmm.
these are the collection of the posts where I think Eyes Traitor is signaling to the buddies.
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2022 9:49 pm
by April Ludgate
Keep in mind, I have been scum multiple times with A50, and have also caught A50Scum multiple times.
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2022 9:51 pm
by April Ludgate
A scum team with A50/Titus knew exactly how to get me to come across poorly, and you can see it with the positioning.
Titus got me pocketed, and bookended the Malcolm and VPB wagons.
Eyes helped me get Malcolm Momentum rolling.
I was sandwiched by these two.
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2022 9:52 pm
by April Ludgate
It was enough to send momentum over when my flip flop reads were on the flop rather than the good flip.
Okay, for real now, nighty night.
And vote Frogster.
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2022 9:53 pm
by April Ludgate
Frogster/Eyes Traitor, 1 or both of Tene/Scorp.
I'd bet the game on this solve.
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 12:25 am
by MegAzumarill
Read through (some of) Day 5
Tene looks town
April has mad charisma but I don't think they are town. Very forceful and seems to spend a lot of effort on persuasion than actually figuring out (Although I concede it is day 5)
Frogs looks not great and seems just trying to survive and going after whichever slot is the scummiest at the time.
FOS Frogs
Want to read some days when Titus was alive before I vote properly
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 3:05 am
by MathBlade
In post 7910, April Ludgate wrote:A scum team with A50/Titus knew exactly how to get me to come across poorly, and you can see it with the positioning.
Titus got me pocketed, and bookended the Malcolm and VPB wagons.
Eyes helped me get Malcolm Momentum rolling.
I was sandwiched by these two.
In post 7909, April Ludgate wrote:Keep in mind, I have been scum multiple times with A50, and have also caught A50Scum multiple times.
Which makes it bad you don’t realize this is A50 scum game
VOTE: Meg
We should not be doing Frog today.
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 3:06 am
by MathBlade
In post 7898, April Ludgate wrote:It's possible Traitor Eyes is trying to tie TownTene to the scum team. Hmm, yeah, I think Eyes is most likely to be the traitor, so might be a Traitor Follower.
Before Lee Sedol (from the first Alphago matches) the greatest player of his age was Lee Changho. He was known for a peaceful calculating style, letting people get what they want and still winning anyway. It wasn't until the advent of hyperaggressive players like Lee Sedol that he could be defeated.
Tene Eyes April is way more likely to me considering this is possible elo and no smash hammer it’s unlikely Eyes is town.
The suggested solve from April doesn’t work for a possible elo.
We’re doing eyes. Eyes will flip group scum.
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 3:16 am
by MathBlade
I don’t have to know the solve to know April’s solve is wrong so going to go for the most likely scum and call it a day.
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:00 am
by Scorpious
I’m convinced you guys really don’t want to solve this game you just want to go in these enormous circles..
It’s beyond trite..
If you’re shooting for 10k plus posts, cool. But think about that..
In post 5603, Eyes without a face wrote:If my reads were perfect (hint: they're not) I would only lim between Scorpious, Datisi/Titus, tenebrousluminary, Frogsterking today.
Maybe I should make a stance now?
VOTE: Frogsterking
There you go.
Yeah, I think Eyes has heavy traitor potential.
Their reads were very solid if you go check their early ISO.
"if my reads were perfect"
Then it might be this, this could also mean there's an additional scum in the game.
Either way, this leads more credibility to the Frogster is scum.
Wouldnt having good reads be poor play for a traitor?
Current reads:
[*]Eyes without a face, [*]Nordrom/Mathblade
[*]Save The Dragons, [*]Aristeia/April Ludgate
[*]fua/Enchant, [*]Nero Cain, [*]VP Baltar
[*]fireisredsir, [*]DeasVail, [*]skitter30/Galron, [*]Cape90
Scorpious
Datisi/Titus
Frogsterking,
tenebrousluminary
Again. Frog/Tene at the bottom, who else is there? Titus.
Eyes is traitor, Frog and Tene are scum partners with a possible Scorp thrown in.
What? Why would a traitor put the entire team at the bottom? I'm just the game winning mislim... there's not even an explanation for my moving around from him. Which is in lockstep with what Scorp is doing, incidentally.
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 5:34 am
by tenebrousluminary
In post 7918, Scorpious wrote:I’m convinced you guys really don’t want to solve this game you just want to go in these enormous circles..
It’s beyond trite..
If you’re shooting for 10k plus posts, cool. But think about that..
There have been 8000 posts… 8000
If you don’t have votes yet. I feel bad for you
What is trite is having not one reason to back up any of your reads 8000 posts into a game.