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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 5:47 pm
by northsidegal
oh.
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 5:49 pm
by THE MEME MEN
nsg you think it's ari+jjh? -rh
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 5:50 pm
by northsidegal
i don't think jjh is scum, no
is there something mechanical that i've overlooked that makes it such that if aristophanes is scum, jjh must also be scum?
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 5:51 pm
by northsidegal
otherwise i'm not sure where you're coming from
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 6:02 pm
by THE MEME MEN
no I'm just wondering who you think the killing scum is
I'm assuming you think ari is the rber?
-rh
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 6:02 pm
by jjh927
I'm getting pretty tired of Nero tbh
VOTE: Aristophanes
Also of the day and this is the correct decision mechanically when there's functionally a guilty on the guy
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 6:05 pm
by jjh927
All the scum are capable of killing and there is no meaningful distinction.
Technically I'd class Wheme as the killing scum I guess
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 6:06 pm
by jjh927
In post 0, RadiantCowbells wrote:14) Players not use factional and individual actions simultaneously unless their role PM explicitly says otherwise.
Oh wait nvm
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 6:08 pm
by jjh927
Yeah now I understand why Ari would have not used the hider I believe him to have
It's all come together
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 6:14 pm
by jjh927
Also if we lynch scum then we probably stop the roleblocks regardless, because we either A. Win, B. Leave only 1 scum alive who will do the kill, or C. Leave 2 scum alive but if they kill and RB it confscums Shoshin
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 9:31 pm
by Nero Cain
Child please, I'm so sick of you that I wish I vigged you days ago.
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 9:43 pm
by Vecna
In post 7853, THE MEME MEN wrote:porkens slot got a message from vecna
so if porkens had a roleblock that resolved before vecna, then that would explain why jingle/vecna is not actually a 1v1
but the problem is THE MEME MEN {were apathetic last night}
still hate post restrictions btw, unrelated point to the above
so it seems that porkens slot cannot have roleblocked both vecna and {someone else who was apathetic last night}
so that doesn't really work
but I kinda don't get why jingle is acting like "I'm the best lynch" when I think vecna also has 2 1v1s (1 with jingle, 1 with porkens slot?)
idk I haven't seen either as strong scum reads tho, I kinda wish I could just ignore this mechanical garbage but maybe that's a bad idea
-rh
Just pointing out that right before his replace out, when Firebringer responded:
-The message he stated was the message he would get for VISITING ME
-He did not say anything getting the message that Beavis visited HIM
-Might not have to mean anything, since I did get a dialogue option
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 9:44 pm
by Vecna
In post 7853, THE MEME MEN wrote:porkens slot got a message from vecna
so if porkens had a roleblock that resolved before vecna, then that would explain why jingle/vecna is not actually a 1v1
but the problem is THE MEME MEN {were apathetic last night}
still hate post restrictions btw, unrelated point to the above
so it seems that porkens slot cannot have roleblocked both vecna and {someone else who was apathetic last night}
so that doesn't really work
but I kinda don't get why jingle is acting like "I'm the best lynch" when I think vecna also has 2 1v1s (1 with jingle, 1 with porkens slot?)
idk I haven't seen either as strong scum reads tho, I kinda wish I could just ignore this mechanical garbage but maybe that's a bad idea
-rh
Also the 1v1 between me and Jingle is not from last night. Its from the night before (N4)
That night:
-There was no kill
-I claimed to roleblock Firebringer
-Jingle claimed to receive a tracking result
-Jingle claimed all day he thought it was likely I stopped the kill
-Only today realized my jailkeeping Fire meant he shouldnt have gotten a result.
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 9:50 pm
by Vecna
In post 7884, THE MEME MEN wrote:shoshin is not the rber either imo
I wanna say Jingle... can't be the rber? or... uhh... hmm
main potentials for scum rber are:
Porkens slot
Lady Angel
maaaaybe Ari?
maaaaaaaaaaybe... not?... Vecna?
is vecna ruled out of being the rber mechanically cause I feel like I keep forgetting some of the miscellaneous shit in this game
I guess you think LA cannot be
so if it's not LA then it's probe Porkens slot then right? like isn't that the easiest explanation?
-rh
Porkens was jailkept last night, so its not him, unless scum somehow redirected me to a dialogue guy. But that logic is a bit too much out there.
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 9:52 pm
by Lady Angel
VOTE: Aristophanes
I'll probably flipflop on this a bunch. Jingle resolves the most, Ari has a higher chance of hitting scum, Sheep is also probably scum, etc
I also think that the following players should definitely not live to lylo under any circumstances:
- Aristophanes
- Jingle
- Sheep
- Vecna
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 9:54 pm
by Nero Cain
LA, why were you town reading me and then null reading me? (this was b4 my claim)
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 9:58 pm
by Vecna
In post 7912, Nero Cain wrote:but you are a non-weak hider and are claiming a variant that protects others and I still think that there being a non-mafia killing role=scum have a protection role means that one of you, Vecna, JJH and Gamma are scum. If you don't flip scum I'd want Gamma next...prob. Then Venca. If you do flip scum and the game isn't over I'm going to lynch in all the non-protectives like Jingle and Creatue.
The fuck is this shitpost? If he does not flip scum, Jingle is confirmed scum, but you wanna go lynch a bunch of other rando people?
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 9:59 pm
by Nero Cain
you aren't very good at reading are you?
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 10:02 pm
by Nero Cain
like, at worst you could say its ass backwards and we should lynch Jingle first b4 we lynch protectives.
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 10:20 pm
by Vecna
How is that different from what my post stated? Lynching random people when u have a confirmed scum is hella stupid.
And im reading just fine Nero, youre just rather chaotic in throwing all your thoughts out there.
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 10:22 pm
by Vecna
Regardless, if your correct that there is a Roleblocker and a protective on the scumteam remaining, Jingle is scum.
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 10:22 pm
by Nero Cain
town has 6 protectives in a game with 1 antitown kill? fuck that noise there's scum in there. And besides, you all think Ari is scum as a
so if Ari is scum then I'm right and if Ari isn't scum then one of you (Vecna), JJH, Gamma, Shoshin are scum.
So maybe it's just Jingle + Protective.
or maybe Ari + Jingle/Creature/Sheep
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 10:25 pm
by Vecna
Im pretty sure were dealing with a Jingle + Shoshin + 3rd person scumteam here.
Theres too many unanswered questions for there to be two scum here.
Or maybe im just completely wrong again and Ari is about to flip scum, in which case, whatever.
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 10:28 pm
by Nero Cain
but then I guess thats the thing, if we are listening to Jingle he's either not a hider or didn't use a hid action last night. Maybe he's just bussing in hopes that we don't flip him for some reason.
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 10:32 pm
by Vecna
If Jingle is scum, he just realized I caught him in a mechanical lie, and he assumed incorrectly that everyone would totally listen to him and lynch him and that he was done for......so he fabricated a lie just to drag Ari with him first.
Im not even sure if I believe it myself, but yeah.