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ZEEnon wrote:

Hmm.. well that is true Albert B. Rampage. Despite that, I will not change from Gorrad.
I am determined in his lynch, although I am not against a GLaDOS' lynch.

Swear to me that you will lynch Glados tomorrow and I will vote for Gorrad on the spot. I want your oath signed in blood though.

FULL CLAIM:

As I said, I'm Kiego Asano. I'm very active and a bit paranoid (possible hints at latent abilities involving running/investigation) student. I'm vaguely spiritually aware (further possible hint at latent abilities involving investigation).

My win condition is the town, obviously. I wasn't even told what Kiego's role was, although it wasn't hard to guess it was vanilla townie.

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So, thusfar, correct me if I am wrong:

Claims:
Mastin---Kiego, Minor C., Townie.
Jebus---Mizuiro, Minor C., Townie.
Albert---Karin, Minor C., ?
Green---A spirit kid, Minor C., passive ability.
X---Don, Minor C., Enabler.
Korlash---Different spirit kid, Minor C., Enabler.
ZEE---Yuzu, Minor C., Nurse.

Glados---Chad, Major C., One-shot bulletproof.
Gorrad---Rukia, Major C., Jailer.

Gorrad's claim seems bs.
1: Rukia couldn't cast BASIC kido at the time. Six Rods is 50. She couldn't do that until the Hueco Mundo arc.
2: Six rods imprisons, alright, but how on earth, soul society, Hueco Mundo, or whatever, do they protect?
3: Jailkeeper would overpower the town,
4: He was only one of two major character claims.
Did I miss anything? Gorrad, you've got one chance to defend yourself before you earn my vote.

I'm okay with lynching Gorrad but WE HAVE TO LYNCH GLADOS tomorrow.

Albert wrote:Swear to me that you will lynch Glados tomorrow and I will vote for Gorrad on the spot. I want your oath signed in blood though.

If Gorrad flips scum, there's not a chance that I'd NOT vote Glados. If he's town, then my theory is flawed.

Ya better be scum, mate.

... Processing ...

Definitely suggest that nobody hammers Gorrad right now. We have a week until deadline hits, and Albert B. Rampage is not claiming his role.

Wait a second, I have just figured out how to explain to you guys that Glados is scum.

ZEEnon wrote:

Please explain Albert B. Rampage.
Also, seeing as the end of the day draws near:

- Xtoxm, please target Albert B. Rampage tonight.
- Korlash, please target me tonight.

Reasons for the targets:

I think Albert B. Rampage has a latent ability.
(If you disagree ABR, please say so)
Also, I trust Xtoxm's claim more.
I'd rather have ABR'S ability unlocked rather than my own.

You're right on the money.

All right fine.

ZEEnon is either confirmed town with a similar role to me, or is mafia that somehow knows my role.

I have no defense. I did not write the setup. I cannot tell you why I have the role I do. Lynch me if you want, but get ZEEnon tomorrow.

DOS wrote:...and a more complete claim from Green Crayons.

Meaning?

... Processing ...

Green Crayons wrote:I have a passive ability that I do not want to claim at the moment.

5 to lynch

Gorrad: 4 (Xtoxm, ZEEnon, Green Crayons, Albert B. Rampage)
GLaDOS: 1 (Gorrad)

Not Voting: 4 (GLaDOS, Mastin, Jebus, Korlash)

Hammer please.

Korlash enable ZEEnon so he can be a full doctor.

Xtoxm enable me so I can be a cop.

ZEE, protect me.

... Processing ...

Albert B. Rampage makes a rather bad argument that because I have claimed that I survive the first nightkill on me, that I am scum. Allow me to quickly demonstrate how this is incorrect.

When I claimed my role, the Serial Killer was already dead, and there have been no indicators that there are any killing roles beyond that of a Serial Killer. Albert B. Rampage essentially implying that not only could the mafia redirect the Serial Killer kills, but that a member of the mafia could also survive at least one Serial Killer kill.

Even the most cursory of glances at past OhGodMyLife games show that our mod has a penchant for including partial nightkill-immune roles in various ways.

-> In Medieval Mafia there were members of the town who were immune only to kills from particular members of the mafia.
-> In SPQR Mafia the mafia had to keep a particular member of the mafia alive in order to nightkill at all.
-> In Satin Doll Showdown, there were no such restrictions on nightkills. However, the game did include the presence of a Jailkeeper as well as a Governor (who could prevent lynches).
-> In New Age Mafia there were no such roles that I can see, although the role PMs were not posted to my knowledge. The only protective role was a “weak doctor” (the mechanics of which I do not know), but the town also had a Vigilante to compete with the two scum groups. Note that the game also had two town Trackers, and based on this I do not think it is unreasonable to have two town Spirit Enablers in this game who use different flavor.

Obviously not all of the games share a common theme, but this actually supports me in this case. None of the set-ups from OhGodMyLife have been similar, but they all had reasonable ways to counteract the scum’s nightkills (with immunity to certain killers; restrictions on which members the mafia can kill with; a jailkeeper and a governor; and a weak doctor with a Vigilante).

Assume for the sake of argument that Gorrad is scum. This means that – with the claims as they are currently – only one person in the game had any semblance of protection on Night One, and that person would be me. This would necessitate that the mafia no-killed on Night One.

That theory is ridiculous in that this would keep the game at 11 players rather than reducing the game to 10 players. This effectively gives the town a free lynch. Any ‘advantage’ that might be gained by trying to use the lack of nightkill to bolster a claim is immediately counterbalanced by the fact that such a claim would have to survive an additional day and night of scrutiny.

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I would like to hear his theory on how he can "prove" that I am scum. He also needs to fully claim his role. What do you mean by becoming a "full" Cop? Do you have any results?

DOS wrote:... Processing ...

Oh, then no. You have enough already. (And, wow. Lots of people on tonight. Thread grew really quickly.)

... Processing ...

Advising again that a hammer vote is not preferable here, even if Gorrad is scum. We just had a lot of information thrown at us and it needs to be properly processed. We literally have seven more days before deadline hits, and I see no benefit in ending today as quickly as Albert B. Rampage is trying to do.

Xtoxm, ZEEnon, GLaDOS...they're all scummy.

Glados' incessant rolefishing is noted.

Gorrad wrote:I have no defense. I did not write the setup. I cannot tell you why I have the role I do. Lynch me if you want, but get ZEEnon tomorrow.

Kthnxdienao.

I am satisfied that we have enough info for today. Albert's claim was satisfactory (contrary to what Glados says), in my eyes (also, Zee seems to confirm Albert), and Gorrad blew his chance to defend himself.
More than enough for me.
Anyone object to a hammer? (BESIDES Glados)

Why would Glados try to rolefish on a player (me) she thinks is town?? Because she's scum, that's why.