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- Riceballtail
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I don't see how it is not optimum play. Taking two days to KO one pokémon doesn't sound remotely optimal to me. We're just now getting one down, and the interest level has dropped far too dramatically.
You're twisting my argument to say I'm not following Tajo's plan. I'm proposing a change to it, not saying that we shouldn't follow it.
Honestly, we need more pressure on some people so they actually try to play this game again.
You're twisting my argument to say I'm not following Tajo's plan. I'm proposing a change to it, not saying that we shouldn't follow it.
Honestly, we need more pressure on some people so they actually try to play this game again.
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- Sajin
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RBT- The entire point of the plan is to kill one person at a time. Town sees the flip and gets to decide on the next lynch with that information in mind.
Scum are then forced to either also agree with the plan or to try and weasel their way out of it and attack outside of it. Which is exactly what I am seeing you do.
I see you as scum who is frustrated that the plan restricts your damage. Tough breaks.
Tajo I would like your opinion on this. Everyone else too.
Scum are then forced to either also agree with the plan or to try and weasel their way out of it and attack outside of it. Which is exactly what I am seeing you do.
I see you as scum who is frustrated that the plan restricts your damage. Tough breaks.
Tajo I would like your opinion on this. Everyone else too.
"Against logic there is no armor like ignorance."
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Look, Rice, taking two players at a time is a bad decision. Its like having two lynches at the same day.Riceballtail wrote:I don't see how it is not optimum play. Taking two days to KO one pokémon doesn't sound remotely optimal to me. We're just now getting one down, and the interest level has dropped far too dramatically.
You're twisting my argument to say I'm not following Tajo's plan. I'm proposing a change to it, not saying that we shouldn't follow it.
Honestly, we need more pressure on some people so they actually try to play this game again.
Simply put, its better to lynch just one player and then analyse ALL the information that the flip can provide. Sometimes, a player flipping scum makes a player look better, or in the other hand, makes him look worse. If we had decided to lynch two players at a time, then we could have lynched someone who could have been cleared with the other flip.
I agree the interest level has dropped but thats not because we are not having enough people killed. Look, Malcolm just flipped townie. Has the activity increased?
I suggest that everyone in his next post should post his top suspect.
Call me Tajo.
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Tajo, I'm not implying we should KO two people, I'm saying KO one, and get the second a bit weaker so that, if we do think we have a scum connection, that we can benefit from the weakened state. If nobody else thinks this is a good idea, then whatever. I'll follow what we all agree on, I just don't see it helping us scumhunt if we just decide a target and beat on them one-by-one.
My biggest suspect is currently Kiku due to Socio's play.
My biggest suspect is currently Kiku due to Socio's play.
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I've found RBT scummy in the past. It's partially receded now that I see RBT arguing points more proactively, but it's still kinda... slightly leaning scumSajin wrote:RBT- The entire point of the plan is to kill one person at a time. Town sees the flip and gets to decide on the next lynch with that information in mind.
Scum are then forced to either also agree with the plan or to try and weasel their way out of it and attack outside of it. Which is exactly what I am seeing you do.
I see you as scum who is frustrated that the plan restricts your damage. Tough breaks.
Tajo I would like your opinion on this. Everyone else too.
don't you feel silly now?
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RBT Rayfrost
The points against RBT have piled up all game, I think we should actually do something about them now, Rayfrost is being super wishy-washy about him as well.
The points against RBT have piled up all game, I think we should actually do something about them now, Rayfrost is being super wishy-washy about him as well.
Attack RBT
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Because you are my biggest suspect means I got nothing from Malcom's town flip? I didn't really expect him to flip scum, so no, it didn't change my views very much.kikuchiyo wrote:Still? Your case is stale. Have you no knew infromation from the Malcolm wagon?RBT wrote:My biggest suspect is currently Kiku due to Socio's play.
Confirm Attack: RBT
Feel free to call it omgus, but its not. Your ridiculous refusal to glean info from recent happenings is poor form.
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How am I being "wishy-washy" about RBT? I've yet to say I find RBT anything other than scummy when asked.Shotty to the Body wrote:RBT Rayfrost
The points against RBT have piled up all game, I think we should actually do something about them now, Rayfrost is being super wishy-washy about him as well.
Attack RBT
I AM being wishy-washy about brandi. I have changing reads cuz she keeps flipping from leaning one way to leaning the other.
don't you feel silly now?
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Why are you confirming your attack? Follow the plan. While there is general agreement that RBT is scummy this may or may not be where everyone wants to place their attacks. Just saying.kikuchiyo wrote:Still? Your case is stale. Have you no knew infromation from the Malcolm wagon?RBT wrote:My biggest suspect is currently Kiku due to Socio's play.
Confirm Attack: RBT
Feel free to call it omgus, but its not. Your ridiculous refusal to glean info from recent happenings is poor form.
"Against logic there is no armor like ignorance."
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dude, why are you confirming your attacks?kikuchiyo wrote:Still? Your case is stale. Have you no knew infromation from the Malcolm wagon?RBT wrote:My biggest suspect is currently Kiku due to Socio's play.
Confirm Attack: RBT
Feel free to call it omgus, but its not. Your ridiculous refusal to glean info from recent happenings is poor form.
Call me Tajo.
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This is still the same. If you KO one person and start weakening a second, you still DONT have the information of the first flip.Riceballtail wrote:Tajo, I'm not implying we should KO two people, I'm saying KO one, and get the second a bit weaker so that, if we do think we have a scum connection, that we can benefit from the weakened state. If nobody else thinks this is a good idea, then whatever. I'll follow what we all agree on, I just don't see it helping us scumhunt if we just decide a target and beat on them one-by-one.
My biggest suspect is currently Kiku due to Socio's play.
The key here is that we are not facing a deadline or scum are going to win if we take days to kill someone. We can have as many attack phases as we decide.
Call me Tajo.
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12894
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I agree with this post in the RBT part. He has been in my neutral list for a while now. Will reread him to find out if there are any town tells in his play.Shotty to the Body wrote:RBT Rayfrost
The points against RBT have piled up all game, I think we should actually do something about them now, Rayfrost is being super wishy-washy about him as well.
Attack RBT
I disagree with the RayFrost hate. I have a strong town gut read from him.
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Right. I'm so used to scum NK's, I kinda forgot we don't have that time pressure.populartajo wrote:This is still the same. If you KO one person and start weakening a second, you still DONT have the information of the first flip.Riceballtail wrote:Tajo, I'm not implying we should KO two people, I'm saying KO one, and get the second a bit weaker so that, if we do think we have a scum connection, that we can benefit from the weakened state. If nobody else thinks this is a good idea, then whatever. I'll follow what we all agree on, I just don't see it helping us scumhunt if we just decide a target and beat on them one-by-one.
My biggest suspect is currently Kiku due to Socio's play.
The key here is that we are not facing a deadline or scum are going to win if we take days to kill someone. We can have as many attack phases as we decide.
Also, since I also see a lot of Ray hate showing up, I'm leaning town for him as well.
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Attack Count!
Riceballtail (3): Sajin, Shotty, kikuchiyo*
Brandi (1): populartajo
Not Attacking: mykonian, RayFrost, joe478, Riceballtail, Brandi
Attack Count!
Riceballtail (3): Sajin, Shotty, kikuchiyo*
Brandi (1): populartajo
Not Attacking: mykonian, RayFrost, joe478, Riceballtail, Brandi
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I'm waiting for this.RayFrost wrote:How am I being "wishy-washy" about RBT? I've yet to say I find RBT anything other than scummy when asked.Shotty to the Body wrote:RBT Rayfrost
The points against RBT have piled up all game, I think we should actually do something about them now, Rayfrost is being super wishy-washy about him as well.
Attack RBT
I AM being wishy-washy about brandi. I have changing reads cuz she keeps flipping from leaning one way to leaning the other.
don't you feel silly now?
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I think you can target yourself with abilities, but I hope that's what he means to do and that he's not trying some sort of "self voting" gambit here on page 33.
Welcome to the game. Help us beat the crap out of RBT and you'll get a prize.
Welcome to the game. Help us beat the crap out of RBT and you'll get a prize.
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