/in-vitational 2 - Chosen, Karaoke - Game over! before 830
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OK, Troll's going to make this as clear as possible. Troll must be town because Troll be trying to get Troll lynched and Troll plays to win (hence Troll no would do it as scum in LyLo or town normally.) All three town have to vote together to win this game; it takes three votes to lynch and that be the entire town. Troll no will be voting for anyone other than Troll therefore if someone else gets lynched there will be scum on the wagon. Scum no would vote in a way that loses the game. Therefore any lynch other than Troll's lynch will lose this game for town. Voting for anyone other than Troll be anti-town at this time (though it shouldn't get you lynched as Troll no will vote for you.)
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No ma'am.
Troll is absolutely town.
I know I am town.
Everyone here would have excluded Zorblag. Zorblag is VT.
That makes me Chosen.
You or Scien are scum. But it actually doesn't matter which. All that matters is that our VT gets lynched. Though your play here convinces me that you're scum, making Scien the last Chosen.
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Troll is absolutely town.
I know I am town.
Everyone here would have excluded Zorblag. Zorblag is VT.
That makes me Chosen.
You or Scien are scum. But it actually doesn't matter which. All that matters is that our VT gets lynched. Though your play here convinces me that you're scum, making Scien the last Chosen.
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Hmm, that actually raises an interesting strategy for scum to use (indeed one scum might have used this game.) Up until Nikanor flipped vanilla Troll had always gone with the assumption that scum's best bet was to exclude those that were less likely to get lynched so that them could kill them at night if it was needed. In actuality it makes just as much sense in a situation like the one we be in to have the person least likely to get lynched be a vanilla townie so that the chosen be more likely to be lynched. That be the easiest way to explain how we ended up with the endgame we did. Troll had been working on that assumption as least as recently as when Troll voted for Troll but Troll no had thought to put it in words like that until just now. Troll be disappointed in Troll that Troll no had come up with that earlier.
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Vote Count #3 of Day 4
Zorblag (2) <-~ Zorblag, Papa Zito
Papa Zito (1) <-~ MiteyMouse
Not voting (1) <-~ Scien
Papa Zito (1) <-~ MiteyMouse
Not voting (1) <-~ Scien
With 4 living, 3 will do it.
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The night kills were made for some reason. On their own them be most strange. Setting up this endgame be a much more reasonable motive. Qwints was the least likely to get killed outside this group the first night and Sajin was more likely to live through day three than Nikanor was.
Troll could pretty easily see the game being directed to this particular endgame. And anyhow it no matters. So long as the scum stay out of the lynch rope and have another vanilla townie that does the same that strategy would win. It be an alternative to the more aggressive approach needed to deliberately kill a chosen and lets it happen passively instead.
Troll has been lynched twice here on mafia scum before this game. The first game Troll played Troll was lynched as the final scum the final day. Troll was lynched once in a game where Troll replaced in for a particularly scummy townie close to deadline and no could get out of the noose without potentially hurting the town (by directing suspicions elsewhere in ways Troll no knew would do the town any better.) In all of the rest of Troll's plays Troll has lived till the endgame. If the scum wanted to be sure to have a vanilla townie that did that them could make worse choices than Troll.
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Troll could pretty easily see the game being directed to this particular endgame. And anyhow it no matters. So long as the scum stay out of the lynch rope and have another vanilla townie that does the same that strategy would win. It be an alternative to the more aggressive approach needed to deliberately kill a chosen and lets it happen passively instead.
Troll has been lynched twice here on mafia scum before this game. The first game Troll played Troll was lynched as the final scum the final day. Troll was lynched once in a game where Troll replaced in for a particularly scummy townie close to deadline and no could get out of the noose without potentially hurting the town (by directing suspicions elsewhere in ways Troll no knew would do the town any better.) In all of the rest of Troll's plays Troll has lived till the endgame. If the scum wanted to be sure to have a vanilla townie that did that them could make worse choices than Troll.
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And, for that matter, excluding the strongest (least likely to get lynched) player works for either strategy. Them no need to commit at the start. If day one ends up with a chosen lynch Troll be sure them would take it. If it goes as badly as day one did here for the scum then them have the option of playing a grey man scum game (staying in the background and just not getting lynched) and leaving the excluded around as well.
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Troll no can particularly remember being 25 as Troll's memory be crap. But from where Troll be sure Troll must have been at the time (Wisconsin) it was probably a pretty good year full of much cider and gin (which probably contribute to the memory thing.)
Troll plans on feeling really foolish when it turns out that Papa Zito do be the scum and Troll be the chosen. Troll still no going to change Troll's vote though.
Papa Zito do be right. Voting for Troll simply gets on with the inevitable here.
-Zorblag R`Lyeh
Troll plans on feeling really foolish when it turns out that Papa Zito do be the scum and Troll be the chosen. Troll still no going to change Troll's vote though.
Papa Zito do be right. Voting for Troll simply gets on with the inevitable here.
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Sigh...
Scum PapaZ would have so hammered if he honestly bought the 2 vote self vote thing and Zorblag was chosen... I don't think he was lying. That ruled out the PapaZ scum/Zorblag Chosen combination.
PapaZ has since voted setting up the L-1, and Mitey won't cast the final vote.
Zorblag suggesting his own lynch and setting me up for the last vote means he is at least pro-town.
There is nothing about this situation that can suggest that I am getting played. We know the roles now.
I think we win.
Scum PapaZ would have so hammered if he honestly bought the 2 vote self vote thing and Zorblag was chosen... I don't think he was lying. That ruled out the PapaZ scum/Zorblag Chosen combination.
PapaZ has since voted setting up the L-1, and Mitey won't cast the final vote.
Zorblag suggesting his own lynch and setting me up for the last vote means he is at least pro-town.
There is nothing about this situation that can suggest that I am getting played. We know the roles now.
I think we win.
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Scien took long enough looking at the thread before posting that him no should be scum. It comes down to whether Papa Zito be tricky enough to have won this Troll thinks. Troll supposes we will find out soon enough. In any case, Troll enjoyed the game more than Troll was expecting to.
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