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Posted: **Sat Jan 29, 2011 2:41 pm**

Wraith wrote:
SensFan wrote:
Wraith wrote:
Nero Cain wrote:Its a vauge statement, thats what I don't like about it.
Do I have to make it clearer? Come on, dude.

At risk of getting shouted at for OMGUS, I name names which I attempted to merely imply earlier. Okay, so D1 we had a couple pretty good wagons, most notably Hiraki and (to a lesser extent) KageLord. Suddenly Mist comes along and starts trolling, making it very very obvious she just wants to screw over the town, and a few players, most notably Hiraki and SensFan, suddenly start up a Mist wagon, which every gullible townie happily jumps onto (frankly I'm astounded some people I had pegged to be sensible, like Llama, sotty, and especially Mariyta, jumped on that wagon). And now, what's this? The one player who consistently attempted to shoot down the wagon on the obvtown cop who got mislynched over the obvscum Hiraki is being attacked by the same group of people (Hiraki and SensFan, plus Lowell but I think Lowell is less scum and more VI since I've seen him play like this as VItown before). Do I have spell out P-A-T-T-E-R-N to you?

Oh wait I did.
Two problems with your logic.
First of all,
Sens is a known Policy Lyncher
, thus his push to lynch for idiocy rather than scumminess is null (not to mention that the claim was ridiculously overpowered and obvious bullshit).
Was not aware of this. Do you have meta?

Ask and Ye Shall Receive.
http://67.222.17.61/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11722

Posted: **Sat Jan 29, 2011 3:11 pm**

I was kinda surprised at the Deer death, so I looked back at his short ISO and I found suspicion of three people: Nero Cain, DBE, and Hiraki. I'd bet money at least one of them is scum. I still think Hiraki is the scummiest.

Vote: Hiraki

Posted: **Sat Jan 29, 2011 3:18 pm**

Posted: **Sat Jan 29, 2011 3:19 pm**

Of those three, the correct play is Nero.

Posted: **Sat Jan 29, 2011 3:21 pm**

SensFan wrote:Of those three, the correct play is Nero.

So why aren't you voting me?

Posted: **Sat Jan 29, 2011 3:22 pm**

SensFan wrote:Of those three,

Posted: **Sat Jan 29, 2011 3:24 pm**

Nacho, that's

two

posts you've made with no words of your own but a vote. Do you have a PR? If yes, vote me. If no, quote this post.

Posted: **Sat Jan 29, 2011 4:16 pm**

Benmage wrote:
Nero Cain wrote:Jason, Hiraki,
Mist
tragedy and Mari (though I can't explain my vibes on her) are also good lynches.
Don't make waves please. (internetsarcasmit'ssometimeshardtosee)

Naw. I was an early proponet for the Jason lynch. As much as it pains me to say so Wraith DOES have a decent point about Hiraki + his beginning of day 2 calling us all idiots is super dumb.

unvote

I'll have to review more of Wraiths game but from what I remember of him he's a bit more lurky and I don't really remember him posting cases or aggressively defending himself. So that's why I voted Wraith.

Tradgedy's potential coaching of Mist doesn't sit well with me and I don't get her "gambling her life" post.

Mari agreed with me twice yesterday, just not used to it probally means nothing though.

Fonz wrote:The only way you'd really EXPECT scum to attack the VI replacing in here is if pretty much all the leading candidates are scum.

What has changed your mind?

vote: Hiraki

Posted: **Sat Jan 29, 2011 4:19 pm**

SensFan wrote:Ask and Ye Shall Receive.
http://67.222.17.61/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11722

Sure, I can believe that. I've a few people who like to policy lynch Zwet. However, the funny thing is, you were scum in that game XD

But whatever. Putting it in a policy lynch + meta viewpoint makes sense, somewhat. But

IGMEOY SensFan

Posted: **Sat Jan 29, 2011 4:41 pm**

bloody hell, i come on and am the popular wagon with Sotty leading the charge by the looks of it. I thought you would have picked up my hints by now I have been dropping them all day 1. I am

Doctor

Julius Hibbert.

Posted: **Sat Jan 29, 2011 4:50 pm**

Why claim so early + Hacking voted you first so "technically" he stared it.

Scott Brosius wrote: With 22 alive, it's 12 to lynch.

Steven Hacking wrote:
Vote: Jason

sottyrulez wrote:
Vote: Jason

LlamaFluff wrote:
unvote
Vote Jason

Benmage wrote:
vote Jason

Tragedy wrote: ...Right, Jason.

Vote Jason
, Very Suspicious.

Posted: **Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:07 pm**

I really don't know how to feel about this. I was hoping my simple vote would really put the pressure on, as I felt Jason was far and away the scummiest player of D1. What we get is the same amount of content day1 with a claim that falls somewhere between overly-defensive/paranoid and satisfyingly safe/preemptive. Without a counter I seems pretty hard to argue against the claim, but I would like these hints referenced. Overall I still don't like it, but that gets too far into guessing the design/flavor to be worth banking on.

Posted: **Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:55 pm**

jasonT1981 wrote:bloody hell, i come on and am the popular wagon with Sotty leading the charge by the looks of it. I thought you would have picked up my hints by now I have been dropping them all day 1. I am
Doctor
Julius Hibbert.

If you're town you're almost as dumb as Mist.

Posted: **Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:11 pm**

diddin wrote:I was kinda surprised at the Deer death, so I looked back at his short ISO and I found suspicion of three people: Nero Cain, DBE, and Hiraki. I'd bet money at least one of them is scum. I still think Hiraki is the scummiest.

Vote: Hiraki

Kudos to Diddin to still making little points.

Do you want to defend yourself against my points yet? Or is it too early?

NeroCain wrote:his beginning of day 2 calling us all idiots is super dumb.

I believe by calling

everyone

an idiot, I am including myself. I am almost 99% sure that I said "we" as well to denote myself. Not to mention, it's not a scumtell, in fact, what the fuck was the point of mentioning it?

NeroCain wrote:As much as it pains me to say so Wraith DOES have a decent point about Hiraki

NeroCain#1 wrote: DH's suggestion sucked.

Just sayin'.

SensFan wrote:Nacho, that's
two
posts you've made with no words of your own but a vote. Do you have a PR? If yes, vote me. If no, quote this post.

Either Nacho and Sotty are scum trying to pull a gambit, or scum have special powers. Either or.

Wraith. I don't think you get it.

I had my vote on Mist,

before

he/she had entered the game. I had no care about Mist's actions, Guiderian's actions were bad enough.

I'm pretty sure that's all I want to say.

Preview Edit:

No it's not.

Diddin. You're letting your own self-confident head get to yourself. Then again, you're scum so that doesn't matter.

Deer had only mentioned me once. While it was where he/she voted, you must admit that vote was quite weak, in comparison to the reasoning that everyone else seems to like.

If you're honestly voting me on the point that I looked scummy to Deer, I laugh at you.

Posted: **Sat Jan 29, 2011 7:49 pm**

Benmage wrote: Kage’s post 437 is odd in relation to DBE. Kind’ve half-heartedly supports her death…then tells her to claim if she gets close to a hammer…in which she super early claims. ****Did she read this as coaching?
-Calls out others for not posting
-Admits to not do much scum-hunting themselves
-Horrible Mist sheep, post sotty vote.

1. Again, already talked about. Not quite right to blame her early claim on me.
2. Did do that.
3. Did do that.
4. How was it a horrible sheep? What makes it any worse than anyone else's vote on Mist?

Benmage wrote:Also on Kage which I had forgotten. He tried to draw connections with myself, and others. Early on. Lynch X if Y flips scmum. I called him out on it and he quickly backed down.

Where did I back down exactly?

diddin wrote:I was kinda surprised at the Deer death, so I looked back at his short ISO and I found suspicion of three people: Nero Cain, DBE, and Hiraki. I'd bet money at least one of them is scum. I still think Hiraki is the scummiest.

Vote: Hiraki

Interesting idea, but I still don't get the Deer kill. There were other people that went after Hiraki that were much more active about it than Deer. I mean, I guess that could be the point, but in that case I would think DBE is the better suspect on that front (considering he seemed more sure about her).

jasonT1981 wrote:bloody hell, i come on and am the popular wagon with Sotty leading the charge by the looks of it. I thought you would have picked up my hints by now I have been dropping them all day 1. I am
Doctor
Julius Hibbert.

I pray that you are lying. Otherwise this is the most screwed town I have ever been on and that has nothing to do with scum so far.

diddin wrote:
jasonT1981 wrote:bloody hell, i come on and am the popular wagon with Sotty leading the charge by the looks of it. I thought you would have picked up my hints by now I have been dropping them all day 1. I am
Doctor
Julius Hibbert.
If you're town you're almost as dumb as Mist.

QFT

I still don't mind a DBE lynch carrying over from my thoughts yesterday but Nacho's lurking with rare comments interest me only because I know that's what he does as scum from experience. Anyone have town meta on him?

Posted: **Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:22 pm**

Vote Count 2-2

Benmage(1)- Nachomamma8,
boberz(0)-
DarlaBlueEyes(1)-boberz,
DemonHybrid(0)-
diddin(1)- hiraki,
hiraki(4)- Mariyta, Wraith, diddin, Nero Cain,
jasonT1981(5)- Steven Hacking, sottyrulez, LlamaFluff, Benmage, Tragedy,
KageLord(0)-
LlamaFluff(0)-
Lowell(0)-
Mariyta(0)-
Nachomamma8(0)-
Nero Cain(0)-
ribwich(0)-
SensFan(0)-
Sleepless Assassin(0)-
sottyrulez(0)-
Steven Hacking(0)-
The Fonz(0)-
Tragedy(0)-
tvellalott(0)-
Wraith(2)-SensFan, Lowell,

Not Voting(8)- DarlaBlueEyes, DemonHybrid, jasonT1981, KageLord, ribwich, Sleepless Assassin, The Fonz, tvellalott,

With 22 alive, it's 12 to lynch. Deadline is February 19th at 1pm (EST)

tvellalot has requested replacement.
Sleepless Assassin has 48 hours to post or he will be replaced.

Posted: **Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:51 pm**

@Hiraki what does my not liking the massclaim idea have to do with my agreeing that had somewhat of a decent point?

Posted: **Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:04 pm**

Wraith's point is that I voted me on the basis of the DH Massclaim.

I don't see a point in voting me if you were on my side of the argument.

Posted: **Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:30 pm**

Dammit, why do games start without a mass reminder that the next Day started?

I'll read up and post tomorrow.

Posted: **Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:36 am**

Wraith wrote: It does't matter how many people were gullible, it matter that she was town, and I fucking called it. Like four times.

BASED ON A REALLY FUCKING DUMBASS REASON.

We've told you VIs can be scum too. No doubt if you'd been in NY111, you'd have defended ksun with the exact same reasoning, and he was scum. Plus, mist was a SCUMMY LOOKING VI. Newbies don't generally have alts- they tend to belong to people who've been around a while- and I don't really know anyone who's THAT MUCH of a VI except shotty, and the posting style don't match. So this gave me the impression that mist was faking. Plus, when she said she was going to 'stop trolling and play the game' she came out with a post with a ton of fluff and IIoA. This is also legitimately scummy. As far as I'm concerned, in order to suffer a VI to live, they have to give you reason to think they're more likely than average to be town. And I got the opposite reaction off of mist: she seemed more likely than average to be scum.

It seems notable that you attack the people who really seemed to believe her to be a good lynch and expended effort to achieve it rather than those who looked to have jumped the wagon later without adding anything or associating themselves with the lynch.

The really funny thing is, you called mist obvtown but the wagons you supported are the classic day one mislynch based on a newer player who is trying to scumhunt, but says a few things that could be seen as not having a great logical basis behind it. Give me the poor player who's trying over the player who's making a point of how she's not trying every day.

That said, I really hate people voting her on the basis of her claim. Day one cop claims work themselves out. I have never seen a D1 scum cop claimant survive to lylo in a large. Actually, I've never seen a cop claimant of either stripe do that.

@Nero: I don't believe I ever did change my mind. What gave you that impression?

Posted: **Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:51 am**

diddin wrote:
jasonT1981 wrote:bloody hell, i come on and am the popular wagon with Sotty leading the charge by the looks of it. I thought you would have picked up my hints by now I have been dropping them all day 1. I am
Doctor
Julius Hibbert.
If you're town you're almost as dumb as Mist.

bite me asshole

Posted: **Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:22 am**

Steven Hacking wrote: but I would like these hints referenced.

jasonT1981 wrote: Something about that makes me chuckle lol.

jasonT1981 wrote:HAHA why yes, yes I have. I would recommend a healthy diet as opposed to ribwhiches though.

jasonT1981 wrote:I'll give you a lollypop if you come answer my questions, Tragedy.

jasonT1981 wrote:[/b][/i]

Right now, this game makes me feel like a a Ford urinating on a Chevrolet..

jasonT1981 wrote:I also didn't realize she was a girl I should have looked closer, I guess the umbilical cord had not been cut or something.. urgh i'm heading off to bed I should really try and sleep but I feel like ive downed a box of pixie sticks.

jasonT1981 wrote: It sounds like the canary is not going to die of natural causes

jasonT1981 wrote:what of her defence for things? PMS and emotional woman?

I don't get it (chuckles) I get accused of fence sitting on Darla which is scummy, then I take a stance on her and move my vote its scummy.... "worst prognosis ever!" Hee hee hee. But between Darla, Tragedy and Nero at least one of them has the evil gene.

jasonT1981 wrote:Worst rant EVER... your in a widow-maker profession, well if you ever got married that is!

Also, note this, my reaction to the doc talk that has a Hibbert reference too

jasonT1981 wrote:
Also holy rolefishing for a doc mist.. your tryin to get a doc claim and counter-claim all while trying to say its not what you want... why even bring it up? your playstyle, though maybe funny for you, has for once not got me chuckling.

unvote
vote:Mist

Posted: **Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:30 am**

Also, please show me exactly where the heck I have been sheeping.

I apologize to the mod for my outburst but this game is getting to personal with the name calling by both Diddin and Hirika

Posted: **Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:46 am**

Hiraki wrote:We're all idiots.

Hiraki wrote:We're

Hiraki wrote:WE

Posted: **Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:48 am**

Hiraki wrote:You all are idiots. Mist is Guiderian. Hint hint. I can't be scummy for reciting someone.

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