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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:31 am
by Fate
As you see, Day of Clubs was also an anti-swing day. If town were steamrolling scum and had all PRs, scum would get a free night to dance around.
Diamonds and Spades were just for discussion sparking. Get a D1 rolling with the juicy but implausible bait of a 7 town confirmed wagon, and give decent analysis later on. Spades was scum favored, and was meant to encourage town to policy lynch that day (ACH-HEM) and set-up day of Hearts.
Pretty satisfied with how this was balanced. Would've been interested to see how it would've turned out if scum had been shot by SpyreX and Staeg confirmign a townie, but alas.
ALSO redirection resolves before Staeg's action. If Staeg had targeted scum and redirected onto town he would've been himself confirmed town, and would've THOUGHT with no other reason to think so his scum target was by proxy town.
Reck was also immune to Staeg's action, LOL TROLLING SPYREX WITH MORE HIDER ON GODFATHER ACTION, FLIPPED AS WEAK COP FOR MORE LULZ
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:32 am
by Fate
And no, this set-up was not designed to troll SpyreX nor was he given the vig role through other means than RNG.
FATES JUST FUNNY LIKE THAT SOMETIMES
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:55 am
by SpyreX
And no, this set-up was designed to troll SpyreX nor was he given the vig role through other means than RNG.
FATES JUST FUNNY LIKE THAT SOMETIMES
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:58 am
by Fate
I was begging you to go down in flames the Night of Clubs
Rooting for you in my heart
why spy
why
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:13 pm
by SpyreX
I was hoping against hope that scum would outguess themselves.
OR SOMETHING would happen
Alas.
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:35 pm
by GreyICE
HEY
CAN SOMEONE TELL ME HOW TO OPTIMALLY USE MY ROLE?
BECAUSE IT SUCKS
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:37 pm
by GreyICE
Also:
You're really overestimating GreyICE -- he'll try to block SpyreX again, because he has his scum blinders on. That's just how he is. If you want, we can redirect him to someone else to stop another PR, but that would mean SpyreX would be confirmed town after that since there'd be two kills in one night.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:14 pm
by RedCoyote
That was a pretty enjoyable game. The crash kind of sucked some of the life out of it for me, but I would've liked to play a little longer. The ending was sort of par for the course for this game: a decision made too hastily with little consideration for all the possibilities. I mean, when players are lynched before they're even asked to claim, you sort of know the town's just phoning it in. I know kayne has been crying a great deal, but I enjoyed the game and thought the scum team played well. I liked Reck's mumbo-jumbo in trying to get Spy lynched. I should've known something was up when he went from having a love affair with him to wanting to get him lynched, lol. gg everyone!
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:48 pm
by kanyeknowsbest
wtheck? im not crying at all?? i think nuwen played that endgame well. just cus i dont regret lynching you doesnt mean i didnt njoy the game or am dissatisfied?
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:10 pm
by xRECKONERx
↑ RedCoyote wrote:That was a pretty enjoyable game. The crash kind of sucked some of the life out of it for me, but I would've liked to play a little longer. The ending was sort of par for the course for this game: a decision made too hastily with little consideration for all the possibilities. I mean, when players are lynched before they're even asked to claim, you sort of know the town's just phoning it in. I know kayne has been crying a great deal, but I enjoyed the game and thought the scum team played well. I liked Reck's mumbo-jumbo in trying to get Spy lynched. I should've known something was up when he went from having a love affair with him to wanting to get him lynched, lol. gg everyone!
what mumbo jumbo?
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:21 pm
by kanyeknowsbest
your idiot wall of numbers d3 that said spyrex had to be scum. i was convinced until tierce's post that there was no way you would actually think number shit would fly as scum and were just goin retarded town. it was really bad and obvious;;;;;;
i love you reck but it was really bad....../
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:32 pm
by Tierce
In the dead QT, Tierce wrote:The scumteam correlation business is actually much more complex than Reck is putting it; scumA -> scumB doesn't actually mean that one of B's choices is scum with them, because scum can afford not to nominate all members of a team for the wagon, especially if they are late in the nomination count and there are already high numbers for one of the scumbags. Besides,
the whole "let's lynch the person with the highest possible scumteam correlation result" has a fundamental flaw: town nominates their townreads. This ends up with SpyreX on the noose for nothing more than being extremely protown with his D1 plan.
More than looking at that, they should be looking at who cross-nominated, repeated pairings, and the order in which the nominations were done. Unfortunately, a good chunk of the order was lost in the crash and was not cached by Google.
I should have pored more carefully over this before posting, but water under the bridge, again. ._.
I also don't seem to understand some of the scumteams that Reck suggested; how is 'Parama, GreyICE, RC' feasible from the nominations, for example? I think this is deliberate manipulation of the results.
For the sake of completeness, here are the scumteams I gathered; this isn't exactly manageable for a lynch choice for the above reasons, and it does not mean that the scumteam is actually expressed here. In short, a listing like this is useless for town, and will only aid scum lynch strong townreads. I really hope someone notices it before it's too late.
CNH GreyICE SpyreX
CNH Nuwen SpyreX
CNH Parama SpyreX
GreyICE kanye Reck
GreyICE kanye SpyreX
GreyICE LLD Nuwen
GreyICE LLD Parama
GreyICE LLD Reck
GreyICE LLD Spyrex
GreyICE Nuwen Reck
GreyICE Parama Reck
GreyICE Parama SpyreX
GreyICE RC Reck
GreyICE Reck SpyreX
GreyICE SpyreX
kanye Nuwen SpyreX
kanye Parama Reck
kanye Parama SpyreX
kanye Reck Spyrex
LLD Nuwen RC
LLD Nuwen Reck
LLD Nuwen SpyreX
LLD Parama Reck
LLD Parama Spyrex
LLD Reck SpyreX
Nuwen Parama Reck
Nuwen Parama Spyrex
Nuwen RC
Nuwen RC Reck
Nuwen RC SpyreX
Nuwen Reck SpyreX
Nuwen Spyrex
Parama RC Reck
Parama Reck
Parama Reck SpyreX
Parama SpyreX
RC Reck SpyreX
If it is one of the above, I call Parama, RC, Reck.
Looking at the "times someone is referred" again:
CNH 3
GreyICE 13
kanye 6
LLD 10
Nuwen 14
Parama 14
RC 7
Reck 18
Spyrex 21
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I really hope that Nuwen is town (and she realizes the issues with this whole thing). That post of hers is rather heartwarming.
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:36 pm
by SpyreX
Tierce we know you're awesome.
Keep it up and you're gonna have to die on principle every game.
DO YOU WANT THAT?
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:41 pm
by Tierce
It already happens. I rarely live beyond N2 as town, so I might as well kick things back and forth on dead QTs. ._.
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:03 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
Yeah, you're like MagnaofIllusion.
In more ways than one.
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:37 pm
by Tierce
You're adorable, LLD.
But it's okay, I don't want to get you yelling~
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:38 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
I know I'm adorable.
I know I yell.
"Cat in a Rage".
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:43 am
by AurorusVox
Belated ":( I fucked up my role here" message
Crash + quicklynch + being busy as hell = forgetting to submit the NO LYNCH PLS action
NO LYNCH PLS action = becoming confirmed town via the brokenness of that role belonging to scum(?) = then becoming unlimited BP = confirmed town in LYLO
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:09 am
by Staeg
Wellllll
You could technically get vigged by spyspy, but, yeah
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:21 am
by Fate
So uh, I would've reminded you if it came into play but the Role PM I sent pre-crash stated yours was a one shot use. Aka you'd stop ONE NK or ONE lynch and thats the onyl death you could cheat.
THe post-crash didn't have the specification I was assuming you'd remember your role wasn't completely broken >_>
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:22 am
by GreyICE
I wanted to doctor myself Fate. I really did.
Mod alterations of role PMs midgame :{
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:24 am
by Fate
I DIDNT ALTER NUTHIN
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:27 am
by AurorusVox
↑ Fate wrote:So uh, I would've reminded you if it came into play but the Role PM I sent pre-crash stated yours was a one shot use. Aka you'd stop ONE NK or ONE lynch and thats the onyl death you could cheat.
THe post-crash didn't have the specification I was assuming you'd remember your role wasn't completely broken >_>
:'(
Well that at least makes me feel less bad.
Though I might have claimed it that way and scum might have fear-avoided the NK...>_>"
v_v
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:32 am
by Fate
Nuwen probably would've strangled me if she thought there was a perma unkillable townie in this set-up as well
but uh
that's what I would've fakeclaimed too
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:48 am
by GreyICE
Meh, you would have fakeclaimed town bulletproof~