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Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 12:46 pm
by fferyllt
I did some research because I personally haven't seen many voyeur roles handed out where I usually play mafia, and I got to thinking that it would be a pretty safe thing to claim if you didn't want to be cc'd. Turns out chkflip had the role in a recent game, and it's showed up in a handful of other recent games.

That's one of the reasons I'm not deathtunneling you atm, TIP.

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 12:48 pm
by Vegito
In post 736, sword_of_omens wrote:i'd prefer not to replace out..and I do not like to replace out...i've only done it 4 times...
the NY game which i previously linked where i was scum,
and then i had 3 games going at the same time (Star Wars, Experimental, and DwD) and had to mass replace out:
Star Wars (town), Experimental Role (town)
and a Dance with Dragons (town)
All of these were done towards the beginning of my play where i realized i won't be able to put the time needed into the game...

problem is, work gets crazy for me sometimes..especially when there are a few people out of the office and i have to take on their work load as well....i deal a lot with the gov't and military and a lot of times i have to take off without notice if a someone has an issue that can't be immediately fixed. And with work the way it is, if i'm gone a day, i'm behind a week..
..weekends i am V/LA as i only have my phone and my house is a dead zone. Unfortunately i was out pretty much all of last weeek (due to my Bday shenanigans) which coupled with all of my work stuff really put me at a bad spot with the game...

CHK is cool people, and i'd hate to be a dick and lurk-lurk-lurk constantly trying to catch up....it's not fair to him, or all of the other people playing his game.

This week is hectic as well…
Gov’t funding needs to allocated before month end and I have to make sure everything is double-checked on a few new projects…
You just made a wall of excuses for lurking.
Don't give us excuses, just don't lurk.
In post 743, PimHel wrote:Last: @Nacho
Can you give me some links of your Calcifer games? I'd like it if you have both scum and town games.
I'll do it after I'm done catching up, yeah.
In post 770, fferyllt wrote:Nacho, you are welcome to try and talk me out of it.
I hate defending people who won't defend themselves, and Hamlet is more than capable of defending themselves. Meanwhile, bungle is town and I need a new scumread.
Sell me on Swords town and I'm completely down to vote Hamlet with you.

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 12:48 pm
by Vegito
In post 786, Bacde wrote:
In post 745, Ghostlin wrote:
In post 744, PimHel wrote:Unvote; Vote Ghostlin
Clarify this vote. What do you see scummy about me over Vegito or anyone else, and why would you try to build a wagon on me now?

Even better. Your reads, now.
omg can we plz lynch this
Bacde, stop acting weird as fuck and pay attention to relevant things.

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 12:49 pm
by Bacde
im down to lynch sword tbh but ghostlin is scum

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 12:50 pm
by Vegito
1. TheIrishPope
2. sword_of_omens
3. fferyllt
4. PimHel
5. mrbungle thenewearth
6. Ghostlin
7. Vegito DoctorPepper
8. Bacde
9. Hamlet

Pope, ffery, PimHel, bungle, Ghostlin all probably non negotiably town.
Swords, Hamlet, Bacde are where I'm looking at the moment.

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 12:50 pm
by Vegito
In post 803, Bacde wrote:im down to lynch sword tbh but ghostlin is scum
Why do you want to lynch Sword?
Hamlet?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 12:52 pm
by mrbungle
nacho talk to me about your non negotiable pimhel town read. every time i read that filter i keep come away with not much to go on in either direction

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 12:52 pm
by fferyllt
In post 799, Vegito wrote:Similar PRs? Voyeur is useless without other roles to compliment it.
Ffery, my townread on Hamlet is stale, but my scumread on Swords is strong. I'm tired of Majiffy pushing Pope as scum, so I'm going to try calling him tonight so I can yell at him in person.
Damn you I feel like I could follow you to my doom this time. I have a feeling this game is going to invalidate that tell I've been using since the first game I saw you drop it.

I'm backing away from the capslock button.

What's the basis of your swords read? Majiffy had him as town.

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 12:56 pm
by sword_of_omens
Unvote

@Pope- did you claim your character?
if not, can you please do so?

-Ffery- CHK is a PR heavy mod...i'm sure everyone has a PR in this game...
his Pokemon game everyone was JOAT and voyeur/tracker were in it...

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 12:56 pm
by Vegito

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 12:58 pm
by Vegito
first two links town, third scum, next three town, next scum again, last town but with a different partner who decided to go all out AGGRO with me as a playstyle choice

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 1:04 pm
by fferyllt
In post 801, Vegito wrote:Sell me on Swords town and I'm completely down to vote Hamlet with you.
775 is the best I've got. Your point about the wall of excuses for lurking resonates. It's similar to mrbungle's take on that post.

(glad you think mrbungles is town too. I'm starting to wonder if I by default think TL-influenced play is town play)

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 1:09 pm
by Vegito
In post 806, mrbungle wrote:nacho talk to me about your non negotiable pimhel town read. every time i read that filter i keep come away with not much to go on in either direction
The strongest sell for me is the way that he's been interacting with this hydra; I think the doubt about my specific head is very real, and all these questions to my meta and things like that is just going to make it harder for him to jump back on my wagon; it seems like something that's completely useless and serves absolutely no purpose if he's scum, and that makes it read very, very genuine.
In post 807, fferyllt wrote:What's the basis of your swords read? Majiffy had him as town.
He's making far too many excuses for low activity and is not actually doing anything; hasn't been doing anything this entire game. The fact that he isn't used to being scum really stands out to me as well; usually finding things to pick up on and attack comes with experience, and his comfortable posting around talking about his own meta is a harsh contrast to him talking about his actual reads; for example, he's still riding on that DrP case and hasn't really brought up anything about me at all. His bungle vote also felt like a panic vote, and his switch back to our wagon was contrived as all hell.

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 1:10 pm
by Vegito
In post 811, fferyllt wrote:I'm starting to wonder if I by default think TL-influenced play is town play
I've been looking around to double check this too. But generally I find that being scum on this site is draining as shit for players who aren't used to a slower tempo, so I'm just keeping watch on him. I'm really happy with the townread on him now, though.

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 1:13 pm
by fferyllt
He did reply to my request for a couple reads, but the effort level compared to his response to mrbungles was pretty minimal.

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 1:17 pm
by sword_of_omens
pope.....808 pleaae

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 1:18 pm
by Vegito
Also, look at A Dance With Dragons and tell me if you see what sword did here but still really hasn't done in this game.

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 1:28 pm
by mrbungle
sheeping nacho's sheeping of my sword read

VOTE: sword

sword i still dont feel like you've adequately explained how you feel about vegita.... get to that soon and do it after having caught up entirely on the thread. are you completely caught up btw? i don't remember if you answered that clearly or not

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 1:29 pm
by mrbungle
In post 816, Vegito wrote:Also, look at A Dance With Dragons and tell me if you see what sword did here but still really hasn't done in this game.
making an attempt to read the thread despite being behind by several pages?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 1:34 pm
by fferyllt
In post 816, Vegito wrote:Also, look at A Dance With Dragons and tell me if you see what sword did here but still really hasn't done in this game.
oh god multifaction. Was he something resembling town?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 1:41 pm
by Vegito
In post 818, mrbungle wrote:making an attempt to read the thread despite being behind by several pages?
Reading the thread and actually showing evidence of it. Sword catches up like I do; he reads through the thread, picks out things that he finds interesting, asks questions, all that good stuff. In this thread, his long posts are A) reads, or B) attacking reads which means that he's doing things for a purpose. Giving reads so he looks town, attacking reads to push through a wagon. The narrow play this game is different from his usual game (he does get a bit tunneley, but when he's tunnely, his reads form organically and aren't "BIG WALL POST OF READS" "TUNNEL SCUMREADS FROM BIG WALL POST OF READS").

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 1:42 pm
by Vegito
and yeah, he was town there.
he replaced out pretty much instantly though.

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 1:43 pm
by Vegito
In post 795, TheIrishPope wrote:
In post 783, Vegito wrote:
We are a powerful town PR
1. Not stating name
2. Not stating powers
3. Not stating character name

So yeah, lies lies lies which you fail to consider.
Not giving full information is not a lie. Sorry this hurts your perception of the world, but I thought maybe you should learn a simple concept that a 5 year old understands.
In post 795, TheIrishPope wrote:I have never lied.
And you talk about deflecting and dodging when you are dodging the exact same points I am raising now and first raised in #784.
You lied about me tunneling. And I wasn't dodging "points" you "raised" - I use these words in their loosest of terms - I was deliberately stating that I did not want to reveal said information unless I absolutely had to.
In post 799, Vegito wrote:so I'm going to try calling him tonight so I can yell at him in person.
I don't do phones. Ask Mollie, she'll tell you.
In post 804, Vegito wrote: Pope, ffery, PimHel, bungle, Ghostlin all probably non negotiably town.
Swords, Hamlet, Bacde are where I'm looking at the moment.
Switch Bacde and Pope.

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 1:47 pm
by fferyllt
In post 820, Vegito wrote:
In post 818, mrbungle wrote:making an attempt to read the thread despite being behind by several pages?
Reading the thread and actually showing evidence of it. Sword catches up like I do; he reads through the thread, picks out things that he finds interesting, asks questions, all that good stuff. In this thread, his long posts are A) reads, or B) attacking reads which means that he's doing things for a purpose. Giving reads so he looks town, attacking reads to push through a wagon. The narrow play this game is different from his usual game (he does get a bit tunneley, but when he's tunnely, his reads form organically and aren't "BIG WALL POST OF READS" "TUNNEL SCUMREADS FROM BIG WALL POST OF READS").
Yep, I'm seeing that.

Ok.

VOTE: swords

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 1:55 pm
by sword_of_omens
on my phone...before you guys lynch me, please let Pope answer my question...
i have a reasonfor this request which ill explain ad soon as he answers...
ill get to a coffee shop in a bit..