Newbie 1382 (Game Over)

[rmpeacoc]

I completely agree.

Fuck it... Flay makes too much sense to be scum.

VOTE: NQT

Still think I'm scum, Flay? It would have made a lot more sense to me to bus NQT, wouldn't it?

Jerry is scum.

[rmpeacoc]

i meant i agree with flay, brw

[rmpeacoc]

also if NQT is not scum no one fucking blames me. k Thanks.

[Zaicon]

Final Vote Count - Day 4

notquitethere (4):

JerryArr, Mr. Flay, Xiao Long, rmpeacoc

JerryArr (1):

Kattaze

Mr. Flay (1):

notquitethere

No Vote (0)

V/LA

Kattaze: July 23

notquitethere,

Mafia Goon

, has been lynched!

It is now Night 4. Deadline is Thursday, July 18 at 4:00 PM CDT, which is in (expired on 2013-07-18 16:00:00).

[Zaicon]

Kattaze,

Town Doctor

, has been killed.

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►►Day 5◄◄

Vote Count 5.0

No Vote (4)

: JerryArr, Mr. Flay, rmpeacoc, Xiao Long

With 4 alive, it takes 3 to lynch!

Deadline is Thursday, August 1 at 6:00 PM CDT, which is in (expired on 2013-08-01 18:00:00).

[Mr. Flay]

FINALLY.

Okay, four alive means 3:1 which means we're still in MyLo, but we also still have a ConfTown. So I don't think we need to discuss No Lynch.

That said, while Jerry looks REALLY bad due to nqt's behavior yesterday, we should discuss and not just quicklynch.

[JerryArr]

To me, it seems like RMP and NQT thought that NQT being lynched was unavoidable Day 4, and they determined that they wanted to remove as much innocence as possible from me while they still had two scum. Since NQT was the goon, leaving RMP, the roleblocker, left, she had her choice of anyone left to kill, and she picked Katt. As you said, Flay, I don't exactly look the towniest right now, which is another good reason why this was be a good kill choice for RMP, she was confident she could get a lynch on me today, even without Katt's vote. Basically, I'm being framed.

[rmpeacoc]

Basically, I'm being framed.

REALLY? REALLLLLLY? Do you not know how to play mafia? There are ALWAYS 2-3 people in the end who could be scum... there is always someone who is either confirmed town or who everyone things is town that has to pick.

she had her choice of anyone left to kill

Only idiot scum wouldn't have killed Kattaze. He could have easily WIFOMed and been on my or flay, believing both of us were town. It's not about the choice, it's about killing the person who is GUARANTEED to not be saved.

Please stop playing the Village Idiot.
___________________________

Bottom line: I would have bussed NQT if I was his partner. Easy. Jerry jumped all over everything that Flay said. I agree that this shouldn't be a quick lynch, but I have no question, so I'm voting.

VOTE: JerryArr

Little reminder to you all that my birthday is next wed. and then im moving thursday and friday so if we could NOT take 2 weeks that would be fantastic. Thanks.

*Also I'm not arguing with Jerry. This is just a battle. Don't expect me to respond to you. Flay and Xiao can relay any questions that they want answered, but I'm not going to try to battle with scum.

[Mr. Flay]

To me, it seems like RMP and NQT thought that NQT being lynched was unavoidable Day 4, and they determined that they wanted to remove as much innocence as possible from me while they still had two scum. Since NQT was the goon, leaving RMP, the roleblocker, left, she had her choice of anyone left to kill, and she picked Katt. As you said, Flay, I don't exactly look the towniest right now, which is another good reason why this was be a good kill choice for RMP, she was confident she could get a lynch on me today, even without Katt's vote. Basically, I'm being framed.

None of that makes the least bit of sense, Jerry.

1. Kattaze was a Doctor. Killing him was priority number one, because another successful save would have given THREE CONFIRMED TOWN.
   
2. If it's rmp and nqt, ALL they had to do was get anybody lynched instead of them. I need to examine Day Four to see if there's any place where one of you could have hammered Town and won with nqt, but I think there isn't because of the way the wagons went down. Even still, rmp-scum could have switched to me (with nqt) to try for different momentum than Jerrywagon. But her reaction at the end of the Day Four reads as pro-town to me.
   
3. I want to hear from Xiao, obviously, before we lynch. But you need to make a MUCH better case on rmp than 'I'm being framed'.
   
4. I don't believe Day Five should take us past next Wednesday, if everyone participates well. I could probably be ready by Sunday, frankly.

[Xiao Long]

Bottom line: I would have bussed NQT if I was his partner. Easy.

Easy for you to say it, but us believing it is a different story.

If it's rmp and nqt, ALL they had to do was get anybody lynched instead of them. I need to examine Day Four to see if there's any place where one of you could have hammered Town and won with nqt, but I think there isn't because of the way the wagons went down. Even still, rmp-scum could have switched to me (with nqt) to try for different momentum than Jerrywagon. But her reaction at the end of the Day Four reads as pro-town to me.
I want to hear from Xiao, obviously, before we lynch. But you need to make a MUCH better case on rmp than 'I'm being framed'.

Obviously me and you are cleared. At the moment, I'm thinking Jerry is most likely to be the scum partner. NQT refused to switch his vote to Jerry even after it was mentioned that we would hammer Jerry to avoid a mislynch.

However, I'm still going to look back over Rmp-NQT interactions.

[rmpeacoc]

I realize that, Xiao.

One other thing that should make you all see me as town: Xiao and Flay seemed like they would have switched to Jerry. Maybe not, but it does look like you guys would have at the end of day 4 if I hadn't come back and voted NQT. So why on earth would I lynch my partner if I could get town lynched?

Jerry is scum.

[Mr. Flay]

Maybe not, but it does look like you guys would have at the end of day 4 if I hadn't come back and voted NQT. So why on earth would I lynch my partner if I could get town lynched?

And you fought pretty hard there in those last twenty minutes to get a nqt lynch, when you could have caved.

NQT refused to switch his vote to Jerry even after it was mentioned that we would hammer Jerry to avoid a mislynch.

That's the thing I need Jerry to explain if he wants to avoid my vote. notquitethere went after me, and a little after rm, but never really Jerry. I can see a line of thought where nqt, having been put in the crosshairs, was supposed to buddy up to rmp. That would explain her lowest-place ranking on his scumchart in 625, although her being scum would too.

On the other hand, 655 gets verrrry interesting if Jerry is the partner. It's a pretty solid bus, but he really would prefer I get lynched (obviously, since that would result in an autowin). It also makes Jerry's "NOT CHOC" breadcrumb make at least a small kind of sense, if he didn't understand why one breadcrumbs.

[Mr. Flay]

And you fought pretty hard there in those last twenty minutes to get a nqt lynch, when you could have caved.

Errr,to get a Jerry lynch.

I had a post I made at the same time as Zaicon locked the thread, but I think it's lost to the ether (it was technically after the lynch, so he deleted it).

[Mr. Flay]

Reading is tech, actually.

I'm thinking Flay-Jerry might be the team

Of all days, we can afford a no-lynch on MYLO, Flay reads as scummier than Jerry for me, and if we mislynch we've lost so I'd really rather not make a mistake here.

So he has no PROOF I'm scum, but is willing to risk a lynch on me, even though he can't actually get a wagon going. But Jerry, his second-pick for scum on Day Four? No way is he going to risk a mislynch there, Even To Save His Own Neck!

Jerry, you get one chance at rebuttal.

[rmpeacoc]

I did happen to see that one, Flay. Something about Xiao being conf. town and not having a set lynch, being okay with either NQT or Jerry I think.

I just think it would be really silly for NQT and I not to bus if we were scumbuddies.

You might all not particularly like my play style, but you've seen my meta and how i play.

I'm honestly willing to believe jerry is smarter than he is acting, haha.

I'd laugh SOOO hard if Flay was scum right now, but he's not.

[JerryArr]

Sure, NOW there's activity, when I'm trying to respond.

Kattaze was a Doctor. Killing him was priority number one, because another successful save would have given THREE CONFIRMED TOWN.

Couldn't the roleblocker just block Katt and kill whoever to prevent a save?

If it's rmp and nqt, ALL they had to do was get anybody lynched instead of them.

Either yesterday or today, and it seemed to me that NQT was in a bad position going into Day 4, so I'm guessing they have a better chance today.

But her reaction at the end of the Day Four reads as pro-town to me.

I can see where you're coming from. 797 seems like passing the buck to cause confusion, but I don't think that would damn her.

Of all days, we can afford a no-lynch on MYLO, Flay reads as scummier than Jerry for me, and if we mislynch we've lost so I'd really rather not make a mistake here.

So he has no PROOF I'm scum, but is willing to risk a lynch on me, even though he can't actually get a wagon going. But Jerry, his second-pick for scum on Day Four? No way is he going to risk a mislynch there, Even To Save His Own Neck!

Jerry, you get one chance at rebuttal.

I can't pretend to know what NQT was thinking. I don't control his vote, so nothing realistic I could have done would have gotten him to change his vote.

(also, NOT CHOC was supposed to be in reference to chocolate being an opposite of vanilla.)

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But unfortunately, I think I'm in an unwinnable situation. I can only win if I convince Flay and Xiao, who both think I'm scummier than RMP. I didn't want to do this, because I don't want to just give myself up, but I literally cannot think of anything RMP has done that is really scummy over the last few (real-time) days in the game. I've painted myself into a corner, and now... I have to get paint on my feet? Or something like that?

VOTE: JerryArr gg town. I'm sorry it couldn't have been a more exciting MyLo but it's just not happening for me.

This should be an interesting game to look over, though.

[Xiao Long]

What the fuck?

[Mr. Flay]

VOTE: JerryArr - mercykill.

[rmpeacoc]

Remember when people told ME not to roll over and die? That's what you did.

I understood that your breadcrumb meant you were vanilla. What I didn't understand was WHY ON EARTH you did it. There's no reason to breadcrumb VT like that unless you are scum.

Where you really failed in my opinion was buddying Flay. You only left yourself one out. You had to fight me for the lynch, and I wasn't giving up. If you'd left both options open you could have saved yourself.

Regardless you should never self vote.

[Mr. Flay]

I'd laugh SOOO hard if Flay was scum right now, but he's not.

I admit, this made me literally laugh out loud last night when I saw it.

[rmpeacoc]

Wouldn't it be terrible though, if we just focused on each other and you were the real scum? I've seen that happen before... but that makes for really bad town. You never clear someone 100%.

[Zaicon]

Final Vote Count - Day 5

JerryArr (3):

rmpeacoc, JerryArr, Mr. Flay

No Vote (1)

: Xiao Long

JerryArr,

Mafia Roleblocker

, has been lynched!

Mr. Flay,

Vanilla Townie

, wins the game!
rmpeacoc,

Vanilla Townie

, wins the game!
Xiao Long,

Vanilla Townie

, wins the game!
Kattaze, Mutleyddmc, notscience, and pitoli also win the game.

Night 1 Actions

pitoli investigates Xiao Long.
Kattaze protects pitoli.
notquitethere kills pitoli.
JerryArr roleblocks Lortaku.

Night 2 Actions

pitoli investigates Mr. Flay.
Kattaze protects notquitethere.
notquitethere kills pitoli.
JerryArr roleblocks rmpeacoc.

Night 3 Actions

Kattaze protects Xiao Long.
notquitethere kills Xiao Long.
JerryArr roleblocks Mr. Flay.

Night 4 Actions

Kattaze protects Xiao Long.
JerryArr kills Kattaze.
JerryArr roleblocks rmpeacoc.

Dead QT
The Mafia QT can be released at the Mafia's discretion.

[notscience]

Yayy

[Mutleyddmc]

Woooo well done town. We really thought it was you RM at one point. Good job on not giving up as you said!

[Mutleyddmc]

Oh and katttaze well done on the 2 saves!